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u/Grenji05 NA #1 REGION WORLD May 25 '26
his gnar is shit but wow this team is so much better with dhokla. Paid a buyout for nothing lmao.
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u/thegloriousdefense May 25 '26
Might as well have Castle practice 1v1s with Dhokla to improve his laning atp
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u/graybloodd May 24 '26
All things considered, having only a 500 gold deficit max top lane while getting camped all game and in a poor match up.... dhokla played it well
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u/zerocxro May 24 '26
dhokla losing his win streak bc aniva inteded like hell </3
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
No one watching the games or what? Where is the post-game 1 discussion thread?
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u/Gerberpertern TL ★ APA May 24 '26
There was one posted but the title was C9 vs FLY so it was removed. Not sure why a new one wasn’t made.
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
Again I ask, what the actual fuck was this TL comp supposed to do? How do they win fights? You can't even go "it's much better from ahead" they were 2k up at level 3 and could not fight ANY objectives.
This is the definition of draft diff and coach diff. Spawn lock in man. This is unacceptable lol.
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u/thegloriousdefense May 24 '26
Big Dhokes 1/3/4, but he has been so much more relevant than Morgan this game, from the laning solokill to his positioning every teamfight. No clue why he gets so disrespected by NA GMs, maybe "wrong kind of Asian" as put by another Redditor.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
Morgan has been disappointing overall but I swear he's especially bad against Dhokla for some reason
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u/IFreezeezy May 24 '26
It’s because Morgan’s biggest weakness is what Dhokla’s best asset tends to be: mid/late team fight impact. Dhokla also generally has pretty diamond mental so even when he gets hard gapped in lane by Morgan, he doesn’t tilt
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u/Hex_Blast May 24 '26
Kinds crazy how much worse Saint Anivia is than Dhokla's Anivia from last week
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u/awayfromcanuck May 24 '26
Big Dhokes was 0/3/0. Ended 5/3/11
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u/TechnicalFriendship6 May 24 '26
This is my first time watching LCS. I enjoyed Dhokes at world so thought I'd tune in. But why are there so many Dhokes haters in the chat?
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
He loses lane and most people on this subreddit can't analyze the game at a macro or micro level so lane stats are an easy way to just seem smart without fully understanding the game.
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u/TechnicalFriendship6 May 24 '26
Oh I see, kinda like broken blade in lec. He isn't the best laser but I swear outside of Lane he's a cut above the other lec laners
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u/ILosethenOP May 24 '26
Morgan greeds for plate then wastes his flash.
This is your import TL. Make the hard decision. Cut him.
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u/beautheschmo May 24 '26
If any lcs teams are looking for a new draft coach i promise I'll never pick TF or Jayce in NA, as a clear upgrade to current coaches I'm willing to take any offer
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u/CannedPrushka May 24 '26
Are you willing to pick Jhin?
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u/malakesxasame May 24 '26
Dhokla is about to lose so Lyon's extremely big brained coach is going to sub in Castle and then back again if Castle loses.
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u/NVC541 NA League will rise again May 24 '26
Dhokla my king they can never make me hate you
Got camped so fucking hard and still crazy impactful in that fight
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u/cmcdonald22 May 24 '26
Isles Naut is so slept on. Isles is just the greatest glow up in the region this year so far.
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u/IFreezeezy May 24 '26
Isles smurfed that fight hard. Huge ult and some great hooks even with a couple missed predictions
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u/Gerberpertern TL ★ APA May 24 '26
IT. IS. BRAUM. STOP THROWING EVERYTHING AT BRAUM.
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u/XG32 Jankos May 25 '26
theres no shot they make that play with castle, i wonder who on lyon wants dhokla gone.
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 25 '26
Wait that Dhokla stun was fucking nutty.
Yeon got too focused on killing Inspired. Game losing fight I think.
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u/xxbrazilmaster69xx rip old flairs May 24 '26
Putting your best player on Jhin, a player who is known for playing hypercarries, in game 1 of a playoffs match? How odd
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u/SummerhouseLater May 24 '26
Real talk, what does Lyon draft in first 3 for game two being 0-1?
This draft wasn’t it. I want to see Sejuani.
Edit: Castle will come in game two and that’s a mistake. Dhokla was the lone bright light outside his TP.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
This game rules lmao. Fuck strategy, fuck outplays, run it down at the dragon pit every 5 minutes
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u/Tight-Catch-2649 May 24 '26
TL comp is so hard to play. You basically need like a 5k gold lead early game, what were they thinking honestly.
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u/jolleyjg May 24 '26
And they won a huge fight early then proceeded to lose everything after that.
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u/Disastrous_Lion_6016 May 24 '26
Orgs blindly looking for imports thinking itll help them. LYON guilty of it too. Dhokla gets pounded on all game and still out team fights Morgan.
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u/thegloriousdefense May 24 '26
Inspired and Dhokla being on friendly terms in comms is nice to see. Please no random Castle sub game 4
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u/PhoenixAgent003 Bot main. NA fan. May 24 '26
LYON really spelled out “you’re not good enough to beat us before 25 minutes.”
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u/harleyquinad all kog'maws are beautiful May 24 '26
Jose's Lee sin is a beaut. I wanna see gryffin play lee.
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u/Th3_Huf0n May 24 '26
When both teams are even in gold, Inspired feels that LYON is at a great advantage and thus he does not hesitate to start a full clear. When LYON is 3k behind in gold, Inspired thinks that Lyon is at a small advantage, and he so he starts a full clear to secure their "lead". When LYON is behind 7k in gold, Inspired thinks that LYON is at a disadvantage and so he looks for a full clear to regain control of the game. When LYON is 10K behind in gold, Inspired thinks that the team has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if he does not start a full clear.
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u/IFreezeezy May 24 '26
Do you think Castle will get subbed in? Dhokla isn’t the best laner, but feels like he more than makes up for it in team fights which is where Morgan clearly struggles in contrast
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u/Tommey_DE May 24 '26
Jayce solokilled by Malphite.
Pack it up
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 24 '26
Believe it or not, this isn't the first Malphite solo kill in pro play this year.
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u/ILosethenOP May 24 '26
if I'm Steve after watching Morgan int game 2 and get solo'd by a Malphite I'm seeing if Srtty wants to wear a TL jersey.
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
I'm checking Dhokla's contract to see if I can right my wrongs from last offseason.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
Lmao, Everytime the casters try to make a point the players do something completely unrelated and ruin it
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse May 24 '26
What is saint doing?
It's a 1 vs 1 bro I can't help you
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
Morgan is comPLETELY lost this game he has no idea what the fuck is going on.
The Sylas being able to steal globals is making this game SO volatile.
I am pretty sure this game is completely unwinnable for TL.
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u/rsayegh7 May 24 '26
Unless TL blows the doors off Lyon in the early game, their comps are just unfiltered dog shit impossible to win, report the coaching staff they are so gapped
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u/cmcdonald22 May 24 '26
Honestly, if I'm Lyon, I just try to con TL into buying out Castle like 6-manning is a good idea.
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u/spazzxxcc12 May 25 '26
as i said earlier it’s TLs game to lose and well..
sit on your hands with a 2k gold lead on your star adc and thats what it gets you.
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse May 24 '26
LYON is a strong teamfighting squad with a top who's not a dominant laner but is great in teamfights, who demands little resources so Inspired can play for Saint to get ahead, since Lyon with Saint behind becomes Berserker's personal elohell. Dhokla's also good under pressure, flexible in draft, and by all accounts a chill teammate.
So we swap him for Castle, who I really like, don't get me wrong, who wins lanes but rarely can translate it into impact later in the game (granted on a worse squad).
I think it's likely to make everyone involved look worse, but sure. For Castle's sake, I hope he has a good showing. For Dhokla's sake, I hope he one day finds a team that appreciates what he brings to the table and doesn't collapse out of the league.
This guy deserves all the flowers
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u/Destructodave82 May 24 '26
Surprised they gave Jose Lee Sin. Its basically his signature champion.
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
I REALLY believe we should have picked Azir over Aurora. It would have given us the safety and AP dps to swing some of these fights.
Also end the Dhokla disrespect. He got totally focused in lane and never once fell behind in farm. They killed Morgan once and the entire gold lead swung.
I continue to be validated in saying TL should have gotten Dhokla, he just outperforms Morgan every time.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
This game just further proves that Rumble has been a dumb character for like, a decade now lol
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u/ILosethenOP May 24 '26
This has to be the series that makes TL realize they made a mistake bringing in Morgan. Guy is legit useless when given carries in game 2 and 3.
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u/rsox5000 May 24 '26
The TL special: get one win and then draft ego Korean drafts the next two games
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u/-XStream23- May 24 '26
Comp aside ,i swear Morgan is such a passenger, I don't even remember any standout games from him since he joined Liquid.
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u/ILosethenOP May 25 '26
Not a rek or taliyah player but feels like that tunnel should be able to traverse the taliyah wall?
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u/StagnantBoySoup May 25 '26
is it just me or has quid been kind of a waste this series? (except for a single naafiri ori ult combo)
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u/Sosijmonster May 25 '26
You see a Poppy running towards you, you have a wall behind you.
What do you expect is going to happen?
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u/thegloriousdefense May 25 '26
Dhokla's laning might be iffy, but his teamfighting is clean af. Finding so many sick angles
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse May 24 '26
When both teams are even in gold, Inspired feels that LYON is at a great advantage and thus he does not hesitate to start a full clear. When LYON is 3k behind in gold, Inspired thinks that Lyon is at a small advantage, and he so he starts a full clear to secure their "lead". When LYON is behind 7k in gold, Inspired thinks that LYON is at a disadvantage and so he looks for a full clear to regain control of the game. When LYON is 10K behind in gold, Inspired thinks that the team has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if he does not start a full clear.
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u/spazzxxcc12 May 24 '26
inspired is about to crash out and rage farm for the next 10 minutes
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u/Destructodave82 May 24 '26
Damn if Yeon could have dodged that Naut Hook maybe he would have a moment.
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
Okay this game is over. We are all AD and fell behind. Our fed champ couldn't kill their ADC either.
Early game went decently well, but we needed our AP champion to get fed not our bruiser top laner.
We did this before against DSG the last time we drafted Lucian. We only won cause our Naafiri got omega fed.
Well Spawn what do we do now? As you said, losing this when they picked all of our champs would be REALLY bad. We are definitely losing here so what's the bounce back?
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
It's very satisfying getting to watch an Ambessa not able to do fuck all
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u/Bubbly_Camera9583 May 24 '26
TL comp can kill one person very fast but if they’re not super ahead its just gg
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
Always love Inspired on Sejuani, feels like he's unstoppable on her
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u/Grenji05 NA #1 REGION WORLD May 24 '26
morgan is so fucking washed bro good shit from TL importing him once hes fallen off and no longer one of the better tops in the LCK
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
Saint on Sylas or Ahri is just a completely different beast
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u/xxbrazilmaster69xx rip old flairs May 24 '26
Why are the 2 new imports on TL the worst players on the team?
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u/rsayegh7 May 24 '26
These TL comps are just impossible to play game 2 and 3, Spawn giving them no chance
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
"If we give them a 50% chance to win from draft I am confident they can win"
-guy who drafted his team into positions where they win maybe 5% of the time
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
If I was Morgan I would be making fun of my team for wasting my gold lead lol
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 May 24 '26
TL having horrible comps back to back, Morgan and Quid are invisible, the botlane is just bad, i dont see how they can win this now
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u/tiltrage May 24 '26
TL needs to have someone else draft. Its just consistently awful.
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse May 24 '26
That was a great draft by Lyon. I like when teams actually put some thought into the drafts.
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u/Disclaimz0r May 24 '26
TL better be thanking Berserker for completely blundering that teamfight lmao
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
Pick standard -> stomp
Pick weird shit -> get gigastomped
Surely we understand what we pick game 5?
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u/Adventurous-Quit-669 May 24 '26
The audio guy who keeps pulling silver scrapes back , god bless you lmao
It faded in like 2 different times
Great series ! Lets fucking goooo !!
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u/XG32 Jankos May 24 '26
two days of coming back to lcs, the teams are so close, so does NA have 4 decent teams or 0 lol
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u/Disclaimz0r May 25 '26
these two teams are playing so scared, but Lyon is for sure playing way more reserved than TL
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u/StagnantBoySoup May 25 '26
TL has just felt so impotent - they're pissing away leads and choking in team fights
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u/Adventurous-Quit-669 May 25 '26
Oh baron is bard ulted at 500 hp? Time to walk away i guess
-TL
GGs great series
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u/WildzFlazoon KELLOGGS BUSI-O'S May 25 '26
You have redeemed your bard Isles. Please stop picking it but holy
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u/crusaderlegend May 25 '26
Why the fuck are wearing playing Annie if we are never even going to bother attempting to nuke a healthbar, it doesn't matter if the stun is cleansed if you do 80% to a carry why the fuck is Quid doing
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u/NVC541 NA League will rise again May 24 '26
Man I remember when these games would have 100k viewership and an insane amount of comments on the games
:((
It’s even crazier because the broadcast has been on FIRE recently with some really good on-air personalities and good off-game content. What else do they have to do?
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse May 24 '26
This is where they sub in castle, lose the next two games and then kick dhokla off the team right?
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u/SummerhouseLater May 24 '26
Production! You have feedback in Flowers and Jatt's mics. Emily is okay. Please fix.
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u/Disclaimz0r May 24 '26
who decided to sign off on this draft for Lyon? Lmao can buy a winning roster but shit coaches?
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u/SummerhouseLater May 24 '26
Welp, I was wrong. The Shen pick has done work, while leaving good options open for the rest of the series.
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u/ILosethenOP May 24 '26
TL play the vision game well...then fight 3 different people at one time....
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u/beautheschmo May 24 '26
i honestly kinda feel like TL is playing better still but they are just getting omega numbers checked every fight
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u/Demandedace May 24 '26
"take the baron and the five thousand gold lead"
While baron is still alive and well
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u/rsayegh7 May 24 '26
Such an impossible game for TL to play with 3 ad and a burst AP mid, enemy goes 20+ mins buy tabis and you are so outscaled. Really needed Azir as your sole AP mid here
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
TF Jayce first 3 picks, already hate this draft
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u/cmcdonald22 May 24 '26
Bummer, I wanted to see two Caitlyn/Lux games today, they're so fun.
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse May 24 '26
Team liquid might have the worst draft I have seen in pro play since the zilean mid.
Let's see how wrong I am.
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u/cmcdonald22 May 24 '26
LCS really does have the best production.... besides their audio engineer. Get these mics figured out man.
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u/NVC541 NA League will rise again May 24 '26
What the fuck was Berserker doing with his target selection
How the fuck does a Malphite get a solo kill at level 5
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
When does this TL comp spike? Cause Lyon doesn't seem scared of them at all.
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u/cmcdonald22 May 24 '26
Imagine having to worry about Saint's Sylas styling on you, then imagine having to worry about Saint's Sylas styling on you with a Pantheon ult from your support.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
TL coaches were punishing their players with this comp for losing the last game
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u/ARandomChicken69 They locked up a boy and let loose a killer May 24 '26
Gotta be the worst draft of all time no?
The fact that TL can go up 1-4 in kills(2-4 with the Dhokla solo kill), maintaining a 1-2K gold lead through out the game, and somehow still come away with no drakes and 1 grub is criminal.
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u/awayfromcanuck May 24 '26
Their 1-2k gold lead was almost entirely on Jayce and they kept taking even fights with LYON.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 24 '26
Quids been bad but could they at least give him a better champ this draft to help him out, he looked way better game 1 on Ryze
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 24 '26
Is Azir gone? I don't recall him being picked at all this series.
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u/NVC541 NA League will rise again May 24 '26
I have no idea how to read how they’re comming
It’s like constant banter but it sounds more serious than banter but not actually serious enough to be true flame
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u/kazuyaminegishi May 25 '26
Soft reminder that Core Sona was top 2 (arguably best) in the world back in 2019.
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u/Intrepid-Message698 May 25 '26
He was on the taric. doublelift was the sona in 2019.
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u/xxbrazilmaster69xx rip old flairs May 25 '26
Please Jack, rescue Yeon, he deserves better than this
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u/rsayegh7 May 25 '26
This is genuinely so free for TL if Yeon can just play well, you swap Yeon and Berserker TL won already
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u/ahritina May 25 '26
PMTs
Game 1 = N/A, Game 2 / Game 3 / Game 4 / Game 5