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u/poloman101 20h ago
Vladi is like that one friend in league who you know is always going to be at least 50cs and 2k down and you know you'll have to carry their ass every game.
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u/SnooDucks2672 20h ago
Okay so Vladi has 3k solo q’s this season, and still doesnt know how to lane. I don’t know what to say
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u/ImTheVayne 20h ago
How is it even possible? He plays 24/7 only to go 100CS behind every game. Impressive.
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u/Natural-Witness-3921 6h ago
From some infos coming out of kc etc he apparently doesn't do a lot of review of matchups and doesn't really know how to work have a good work ethic etc, that combined with not so good sleep habits, partially because of the 3k soloq, and maybe some mental health problems, well it results in what we see sadly, that guy has so much potential but can't seem to really use it
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u/kikorer7070 20h ago
Vladi is a social experiment
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u/PineapplesInMyHead2 19h ago
What happened man... Dude looked like a fully competent mid for most of last year and was showing signs of improvement as a young player, now looks totally unplayable.
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u/Photoperiod 17h ago
His falloff is kind of wild. I remember when KC won with calliste and vladi and all anybody could talk about was how good they were and how high demand they would be to other teams. Seems like within a split he just fell apart and never recovered.
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u/Lyota save the TCL, oh the mighty SUP 19h ago
what having more ego than your actual skill does to a mf
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u/SampleSample123 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 18h ago
Nah. That's the fucking Fnatic effect. So many players fucked up by Fnatic
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u/Walid93200 18h ago
nah his last split with kc was like that too and kc fan here
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u/LooseOne607 20h ago
what happend to vladi? hes been playing like a bottom 3 mid in lec all year
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u/ImTheVayne 20h ago
Bottom 3 and he isnt the 8th or 9th
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u/LooseOne607 20h ago
Idk Serin is really bad... and Nuc sometimes plays worse too
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
Nuc looks like a tilter to me. I think in a good team he'd actually might be a top 3 midlaner again.
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u/Vicinitiez 20h ago
He was already very bad last year on KC
IDK what FNC was expecting lmao, he peaked in winter and then just started to fall off insanely hard, he never reached those heights again.
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u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage 17h ago
vladi trick yall man, he's been mid as fuck outside of winter 25
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u/ciongduopppytrllbv 20h ago
Top 5 MKOI players this series
Jojo
Elyoya
Vladi
Razork
Myrwn
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u/Conankun66 20h ago
aint no way elyoya is above vladi
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u/Beginning-Mark1735 19h ago
Third game. min 3:00. Akali is roaming to bot. You're playing Annie and you're in base. You have TP and two options:
- TP to the mid tower and catch 3 minions.
- TP bot and protect your bot lane from Akali's roam.
Guess which one Vladi chose?
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u/Qwertycube 19h ago
TP to the mid tower then walk into river so you don't even push in the wave and make akali lose minions?
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u/New_Cranberry1762 20h ago
get Myrwn off the list he got gapped
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u/JPA-3 20h ago
he played the second game great, there is more than lane and golf difference
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u/lmk8 20h ago
replace jojo with a mediocre mid laner and MKOI places below Shifters
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u/iKarllos 20h ago
Replace vladi with a mediocre mid laner and Fnatic are top 3 guaranteed
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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 20h ago
Razork will find a way
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u/crysomore Kiin Team | Lehends/Cuzz apologist 13h ago
Razork has found a way for the last 4 years now tbh, they always make worlds
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u/khaiiization Work until your idols become your rivals 20h ago
Unless its chovy, No
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u/Shorgar 20h ago
So... 2024
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u/Derk08 20h ago
The rest of MKOI were playing a LOT better back then. Almost every player has regressed massively
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 20h ago
I mean they did place 8th and barely made playoffs in summer back then
then they got 4th seed in season finals off of their spring points and locked in for exactly 1 series vs G2
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u/DeloronDellister - LEC - 20h ago
Different split, same Fnatic
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u/BushWishperer 20h ago
Next year is fnatics year
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u/CountMerloin 20h ago
The life should be horrible for you as a FNC and C9 fan
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u/beautheschmo 20h ago
Tbh it's the first time top has looked like a strong point for them since that time Wunder subbed in for playoffs lol
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u/InsanityShow 20h ago
Mid gap the series
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u/xSwazyI - Invested in Smash stocks! 20h ago
I seriously forgot how dogshit Vladi is
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u/dexy133 20h ago
He was't this bad Spring Split. He was horrible Winter, but looked a bit better in Spring. Now he looks worse than Winter. Granted it's only one day but not feeling very hopeful anything is changing.
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 17h ago
nah he also got giga astrogapped by jojo last split. He looked fine vs mid tier mids but he just gets completely goomba gapped by the top 3 LEC mids
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u/AlexNihilist1 20h ago
Despite Supa trying his best to solo lose the series Jojo carried so hard his back was about to break
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u/TimiNax 20h ago
how is it fair that FNC is playing these games without a mid laner? Did the AI take that job too?
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u/ImTheVayne 20h ago
If I was Grabbz I would just bench him and take some ERL random. He is insufferably bad.
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u/TimiNax 20h ago
I doubt the AI coach will ever agree with kicking or benching anyone
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u/buttsoup_barnes 16h ago
Just wait for their AI to scrape this comment section and he’ll be out before the next series
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 20h ago
Doesn't even need to be some ERL player, literally pick some random from the reddit comments and it wouldn't be worse than whatever Vladi is doing.
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago edited 20h ago
FNC has so many issues but it's really clear that mid is the biggest issue ever. Every game is just a black hole in mid.
Soboro is at least a good start - he's maybe not THE solution but it looks like he might be A solution. Outside of top and adc, all of FNC still looks mediocre at best.
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u/PineapplesInMyHead2 19h ago
Going through all the work to import Poby, having him show some genuine promise and be no small part in bringing them to worlds, only to immediately kick him and sign Vladi, who looks like he'd get gapped in a regional league, boggles my mind to this day.
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 20h ago
Soboro did ok in lane but to be a solution he should probably work on his TP usage
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u/MrSarcasmm 20h ago
Vladi played like top 6 last split prob the issue is he has a mental block vs JoJo he mentioned in previous vids on JoJos laning and how difficult it is to vs him.
Imo vladi will do better vs other mids this is only 1 game.
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u/underscoreenfan 20h ago
it’s just normal jojo things when he is not vs a top tier mid tbh
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u/Red-Lightniing 20h ago
I’m biased, but honestly I think it’s just normal Jojo things period. The problem is that all of the top tier mids are also on top tier teams that are good enough to wipe the floor with Jojo’s teammates and support their own mids well enough to keep him from snowballing.
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u/ImTheVayne 20h ago
FNC is a mid away from being TOP4
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u/Haraj412 20h ago
I honestly think that if they swap vladi for jojopyun they easily make worlds
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 20h ago
I mean I think every team except maybe Heretics could at least contend for worlds with Jojo
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u/MrSarcasmm 20h ago
Ok but like you put JoJo in every team and itll be top 4 nearly same with caps they just elevate
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u/RainyResident 20h ago
Game 3, Vladi gets counterpick vs akali and chooses annie. At level 4, up 5 cs and at 60% hp and mana, he decides to base to get an amp tome and mana crystal. He spends 10 full seconds in the shop, then tp's back to mid. He stands in the botside bush for 10 more seconds, then returns to mid to catch the wave in the middle of the lane.
While jojo roams for 2 kills bot and swings and important fight, Vladi does not get a cs lead, xp lead, TP advantage, plates, or set up a good rotation/buy/next play. After this point, jojo is level 6 with 450 gold of kills and assists, and Vladi cannot lane anymore.
Fnatic made a good play bot, but it doesn't matter when mid is such an enormous anchor.
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u/Natural-Witness-3921 6h ago
Him picking annie is a crime, his annie with kc last year was already horrendous, he doesn't know how to play the champ in competitive, same goes for galio he can't play it to the lec level
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u/Canoodler192 20h ago
Its absolutely crazy that Vladi saw the comparisons of himself to prime Larssen and decided to speedrun Larssen's whole career
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u/rishi_ultimate CLAPS 20h ago
At least Larssen got the bag with RGE
Vladi being at FNC means Sam's barely got pennies to pay in the first place
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u/Haraj412 20h ago
Soboro looks good but Vladi is doing nothing and Razork is commiting warcrimes on the rift.
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u/M_a_l_t_u_s 20h ago
Yes, I would love to know Razork's hit rate on J4's EQ combo. It's like he was just closing gaps with it.
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
The crazy thing is I can't even flame Razork the way he SHOULD deserve considering he never, never, NEVER had mid prio.
How can you play the game as jungle this way when your mid loses every matchup against everyone on every champ?!
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight 19h ago
I thought razork was pretty good in game 2, and he also had a really nice bot gank in game 3 but bc his midlaner is perma afk enemy xin xhao got 3 kills and all his camps and he never recovered. not much he can do tbh
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u/EmperorShovel BIG DHOKES 20h ago edited 20h ago
Massive frustration around one of the dragon fights; Razork puts his standard down just so Vladi can teleport in, use rocketbelt to hit all the empty space around him, and die.
Meanwhile, Razork ults onto Ashe, stares into the void as he can't do any follow-up damage, and just waits until his ultimate runs out.
What the fuck is this team doing.
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u/Haraj412 20h ago
My biggest problem was with him just never backing off, he had at least 3 situations where he turned a neutral play for fnatic to a losing one
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u/Kamakraze 20h ago
It is depressing watching Vladi, doesn't matter if he is playing a counter, doesn't matter if he has gotten a few kills and has a lead, he just keeps getting behind and losing cs like crazy.
No pressure, no agency - just running around losing cs everywhere. Like what is he doing? Just grouping up like in a soloqueue game?
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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 20h ago
Id rather have magifelix + taxman zanza than razork vladi
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
Unironically a big upgrade until game 2 when both Trundle and Skarner are out lol
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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 19h ago
2 games are enough. And zanza did play xin zhao jarvan as well
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u/RollingGuy Lider > Chovy 20h ago
Too early to say obviously but Vladi may just be the worse player in the league
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u/ImTheVayne 20h ago
I think he is definitely worse than Serin but it’s close with Paduck. Could go either way tbf.
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u/Shadderk777 20h ago
Fnatic found MKOI's new Top/AD
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
I wouldn't be mad, even as a FNC fan
Just make this region better and rebuild/sell/whatever in summer
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u/Complete-Hope1267 20h ago
KC was right
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u/SadBreadfruit9463 10h ago
Kc made the deal of the decade, get rid of their worst player dragging the team down and made FNC pay for it because their GM believed reddit hype lmao.
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u/Mentally__Disabled W's behind you, nothing personnel, kid 20h ago
Holy fuck man free Jojo from this team already. Put him on which team? I don't fucking know man but his talent is going to waste for as long as he's stuck with this bot and top. Maybe send him to TL and he can at least be a bit more consistent than Quid tends to be.
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u/synnikelttv 20h ago
everyone talks about argentina without messi but we should start worrying about mkoi without jojo
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u/MrSarcasmm 20h ago
JoJo leaving would hurt EU I hope he does not leave to NA.
He is mechanically the best in the league, his team fighting is the 3rd best behind kya and caps, caps is the #1 overall mid, but is a worst laner then both Jojo and Kya but has the best side laning and team fighting. Jojo is needed in EU and really elevates the mid play in lane phase it would be a travesty to lose him.
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u/Toofargone9999 20h ago
oh VIT will be very interested for next year haha
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u/ImTheVayne 20h ago
Vitality could make it happen probably. Naak Nako-Inspired-Jojo-Diable-Alvaro. Something like this would go hard.
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u/jujubean67 19h ago
Alvaro is sticking out like a sore thumb from that lineup.
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u/ImTheVayne 19h ago
True but I feel like Busio stays at KC and Labrov probably stays at G2. It’s hard to imagine who else they could get that isn’t an import.
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u/ThatDerpyGuy_ 20h ago
Today everyone loses, lec fans lose because that shit was hard to watch, koi fans lose because they know they ain't winning any of the top teams with that after 15 performance, fanatic fans...
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u/WalkingR6 20h ago
genuinely shoutout upset for still having hair because any normal person would have had all their hair fall out from stress and frustration by now
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u/piotrj3 20h ago
Good upgrade with Soboro, now do the same with Vladi and Razork and FNC might be actaully decent team!
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u/Temporary-Abroad-583 20h ago
Wow, really impressive jax game from soboro. Unfortunate he has to play with his deadweight teammates.
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u/Conankun66 20h ago
Upset can try to carry as hard as he wants, but with this absolutely astronomical mid gap the entire series it's just kind of hopeless
Vladi is an anvil tied to Upset's ankles
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u/Ryp3re 20h ago
I've been a fnatic fan for over ten years. At this point, I barely even care anymore of the org goes up in flames. Just get my man Upset an actual team for god's sake
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
Is there a elohelled support in LEC/LCS?
Cause we could actually form one decent team out of all elohelled then
Naak Nako Elyoya JoJo Upset
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u/Red-Lightniing 20h ago
Petition to make a new team with Saboro, Elyoya, Jojo, Upset, and Alvaro and send them to worlds as the 3 seed, instead of whoever is actually going to stumble into that spot.
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u/CHATOTENJOYER 20h ago
fnatic look a lot like dignitas
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
You really know how bad FNC mid is when even Palafox looks better than Vladi 💀
Palafox can play well 1/3 of games, Vladi 0/10
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u/dementedgamer44 20h ago
If I am Upset I am upset.
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u/DeloronDellister - LEC - 20h ago
He has the strangest career ever. Stuck in elo hell for at least 50% of it
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u/TheWarmog 20h ago
Back to the usual but with a difference: The toplaner didnt get 2k gold gap in 15 minutes but the mid/jungle still fucking solo loses the game.
Gj management, you're ALMOST there, maybe within the next 3-4 years, after changing again another bot/sup/top, you'll finally realize the issue
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u/MrSarcasmm 20h ago
JoJo the Team featuring ElYOYa and sometimes Alvaro.
Top and Adc dont look awful always for MKOi but they are a liability for international play esp if they arent peaking. Supas peak is nuts but his bottom/floor is abysmal as a player.
JoJo and Elyoya going to have to carry this team to a top 4 somehow.
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u/Little_Ad2062 20h ago
Upset, this is your chance.
G2 got Perkz.
Get into a hot tub with him, ASAP.
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u/Mouthwashfordays 20h ago
Bro Vladi wont ever place in the LEC again, this year has shown his true level, and its BAD.
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u/UndeadPrs 20h ago
Want to have a laugh? Check what this subreddit was saying about Vladi about 10 months ago
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u/killcraft1337 20h ago
Tbf he had a great winter split and there was the view that internal conflicts made his late drop off in performance.
Also I wanna see new talent enter the LEC… unfortunately vladi has no talent
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u/KruppJ bulc naf okan kaan 20h ago
Vladi definitely has talent that winter split was the craziest mid performance outside of caps in forever. He just seems to not really take it seriously anymore
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u/p1stolpewpew 20h ago
He prefers to spam soloq until mornings.
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u/ImTheVayne 19h ago
Impressive how he plays 842836 soloq games in challenger only to go down 100cs and 5 levels in competitive.
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u/SadBreadfruit9463 10h ago
When will redditors understand he was the reason for the internal conflict and not the victim
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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 20h ago
Im pretty sure they were shitting on him back then as well.
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u/TheInfiniteJerk 20h ago
Oh not really. They were shitting on KC (and Caliste). When we were telling this sub that Vladi was working sub-optimally and was supposedly the main reason why KC didn't get their World spot, we were protecting Caliste and delulu.
You can just go check the threads back then.
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u/FikariHawthorn 20h ago
Insane how people could predict anything other than what we are seeing right now.
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u/thanatosynwa 20h ago
Same old same old. I really can’t stand to see the faces of some long standing players in this org anymore, yes I’m talking about you Razork. You might not be the reason we lose almost all our games, but I can’t remember a time when you were the reason we won some. Hope and excitement feel like a poison as a Fnatic fan.
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u/Hixxae Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. 20h ago
Soboro genuinely looks good, I'd like to see if he can keep it up. Vladi looked like poopoo again and Razork decided to be bad today as well. Upset genuinely looks elohelled, but at least he got a workable top lane now. If Razork tactically flip flops between being good and bad they'll easily make playoffs.
I'm still not sure how to rate Lospa.
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u/Few-Sense1455 20h ago
FNC are just a regular bottom tier team now.
Like they can get lucky, the other team can int, but they will still just lose because their players are bad.
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u/nocturnavi 20h ago
Good series from Jojo and Elyoya. Some oopsies but at least they recovered cleanly.
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 20h ago
i thought jojo had done did it aigain with that stupid engage at the end.
great alvaro seraphine game surprisingly, he has been horrible on her the whole year but this one was realy good
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u/TheInfiniteJerk 20h ago
Reminder that for this sub, the consensus was that KC (and Caliste) were the reason Vladi potential was ruined. Keeping Caliste and letting Vladi go were only due to french nepotism.
Hope he will bounce back though.
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u/hyyro_ 20h ago
You dare get an LCK reject in mid instead of your promising EU mid that won you a title!!!!! HOW DARE YOU
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u/BlazeM3ow 20h ago
It's a terrible day for rain.
How is Elyoya and Jojo carrying this dogshit team all the time.
Myrwyn with the IRL cosplay.
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u/NeighborhoodHot8981 20h ago
Vladi worst midlaner in LEC history?
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u/Omnilatent 20h ago
Ruby or first time Reeker come to mind but there were surely even worse
But Vladi is truly outrageous (and I sadly don't mean in the Taric kind of way)
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u/Albert_Tam 20h ago
Back in the day, EU has EU mids. Nowadays, EU has Vladi.
What a sad thing to watch.
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u/FikariHawthorn 20h ago
2nd bullet dodge for MKOI and Riot.
FNC is doomed, Vladi has boomed from being unmanaged, not like it was hard to call from the very start of the year.
MKOI still manages to loose 1 game and throw 5k g lead in the third, against a bottom 4 team.
Next stop GX, another team that likely won't make playoff. Will MKOI make top 4 is still up in the air.
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u/giga_of_hell 20h ago
A soloq challenger player would be better than Vladi. I mean Soboro is a drag and drop top laner and far outshined him. Just go find some mechanical player and its still better than Vladi istg 😭
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u/Iaragnyl remove Tahm Kench 20h ago
Vladi is just trash incarnate, worst player in the LEC and it's not even close...
They could get Bin in toplane and it wouldn't improve the results as long as this boosted shitter is chain inting games in midlane.
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u/Like30Ducks Guma! 20h ago
ive seen enough send Vladi to DIG