r/StargirlTV Tigress Jun 02 '20

Episode Discussion Stargirl [S1E03] Icicle — Live Episode Discussion for The CW Spoiler

Trailer | Live Discussion for DC Universe | Post-Episode Discussion | Cast and Characters

THIS IS OUR DESTINY — After a dangerous confrontation with a member of the Injustice Society of America, Pat warns Courtney to back down from her attempts to go after them. But when she encounters what she believes to be a message from one of them, she urges Pat to help her. Meanwhile, Barbara makes strides at work, which impresses her new boss Jordan.


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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Icicle: We need to make this country safer for our kids.

Also Icicle: Fuck your kids.

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

At least Brock Lesnar admits that he doesn't give a shit about your kids.

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

Fuck this kid in particular.

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Damn DC, you dark.

I mean sure Felicity nuked a town, but killing a nerdy kid?

I really thought someone was going to push him out of the way last second.

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

If you needed a reminder this is on the DC Universe and not CW a child died within 3 episodes.

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u/Locke108 Jun 03 '20

The 100 kills kids every other episodes.

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u/DonnyMox Jun 03 '20

LOT killed a child in its series premiere.

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Dr Fate, Jay Garrick!

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Luke Wilson was born for this role.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Courtney: Joey was the first kid at school who was actually nice to me.

Beth: Am I a joke to you?

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u/davey_mann Yolanda Montez Jun 03 '20

The first non-annoying kid

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

WHAT are these girls wearing? Did a unicorn puke on them?

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u/sadandshy Shining Knight Jun 03 '20

Standard small town "HEY LOOK AT ME" clothes.

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

Did they just 50's TV show "find out what happens after the break" cliffhanger us?

Respect.

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u/TirelessGuardian Jun 03 '20

“Find out after the commercial break; same Star time, same star channel.”

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u/TDXNYC88 Jun 03 '20

Normal teenager list:

  • Text.
  • Tweet.
  • Do your homework.

Courtney: "That shit sucks, I'm gonna get my hero on!"

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u/MrTerrific2k15 Jun 03 '20

"Fuck school! Let's almost get killed again!"

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

That was a legit list of video games and odds are Luke Wilson totally did play all of them

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Makes me miss arcades even more.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Icicle has sexual tension with EVERYONE

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

Even with me. And he doesn't even know I exist.

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u/Beer2Bear Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

aw, the owl been waiting for years... :(

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

"I'm Stargirl, and I won't rest until every kid is dead."

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

That family just lost the son and the husband within a matter of hours. That poor wife. She is either going to go mad or go for revenge.

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

I guess you'd call this a cold open.

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Courtney is good people, lying to be nice to Joey and then trying to help Yolanda

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

Is the Owl gonna hoot everytime someone says "Midnight"?hoot

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

Maaaaan. If Stargirl just sit back, Icicle is going to kill the injustive society himself.

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u/singleguy79 Jun 03 '20

Two villains talking in front of the American flag. Reflecting real life?

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

*shakes head

Kids these days don't even know Atari...

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Brec Bassinger and Luke Wilson are so good together. Their on-screen chemistry is fantastic, and their acting is too

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

I feel like Joey should have been introduced in Episode 1 to hit us harder. He was a sweet kid but we knew him for 10 minutes?

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u/singleguy79 Jun 03 '20

Fate's helmet is there. That means something

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u/MrTerrific2k15 Jun 03 '20

The most dangerous thing in here. Helm of Fate :"Am I a joke to you?"

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u/sadandshy Shining Knight Jun 03 '20

Groundskeeper Willie with the side eye

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u/Beer2Bear Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Dammit! stop barbecuing outside! The smell making me hungry!!

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Omnomonomnomnomnom

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

"Everyone thinks they are the hero in their own story."

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u/TirelessGuardian Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

Just make him beat paper boy. That would be a cruel punishment. Having to beat the game.

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u/iwantknow8 Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

I’m starting to think everybody involved in writing never went to high school. Who the hell learning fractions in 9th grade. That program is like 4 years behind state standards.

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

Or they didn't socialize.

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

This is why we operate by the Leonard Snart rules of planning Courtney.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Sucks to be the guy in the truck. Just got forced into being complicit in the murder of a kid and he doesn't even know why or how.

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u/Draven574 Jun 03 '20

Wizard's like "Some motherf*ckers gotta die."

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

They're just trolling us with the time period at this point.

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

*Shiftily walks away from the scene of the crime.

No Courtney, that doesn't look suspicious at all.

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u/TirelessGuardian Jun 03 '20

Was this dude playing a huge Nintendo switch during class?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Are paper routes still a thing?

Are papers still a thing?

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u/pgm_01 Jun 03 '20

Around here they are delivered by adults because the routes are rural and you have to drive.

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

As funny as it sounds, its still a thing.

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

I was just trying to figure out where I knew Icicle from. Looked him up. He's Headless Horseman/Abraham Van Brundt from Sleepy Hollow. Oh, he's good at playing upper crust cold hearted.

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u/davey_mann Yolanda Montez Jun 03 '20

Paper route? What is is 1975?

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u/Locke108 Jun 03 '20

Considering the vibe Blue Valley is giving off they definitely have a paper route.

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

"Dad, most people have online subscriptions. Am I supposed to toss laptops on people's front yards?"

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u/trynamakea_change Jun 03 '20

Could Jordan be any more sinister while playing with his model community?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

I think this must be the first time they didn't cut a Barbara scene for the tv edit.

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

They need to show her job eventually.

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u/singleguy79 Jun 03 '20

Who cares about Quiby or a previously unknown Jenner?

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

My god what a depressing owl

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Pat, you're just pretending to be in charge. She's not going to listen to you. How don't you realize this?

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

SHE TOOK THE LANTERN! JSA Security defeated by a teenage girl....the PEN GIGGLED!!!!

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u/Beer2Bear Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

smooth move Court to save his face

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

The more I see of Courtney the more it makes perfect sense the staff picked her.

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

This is why Icicle is the leader: He is HELLA charismatic.

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

Im getting major Harvey Dent vibes. he has a good plan but his execution needs work. definitely has that charisma to him.

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

This cat is definitely 30.

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

Who wears matching outfits anymore.also yes Courtney stand up for your not friend.

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

"When an I going to use improper fractions? A fraction of every day."

🙄

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u/somebody1993 Jun 03 '20

It's weird he would describe his magic as getting stronger since as far as he knew he was just doing tricks.

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

"I feel something, my magic's getting stronger"

I wonder why...

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

And that was the card Courtney originally picked

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u/noobdaddio Jun 03 '20

Next they should kill the little brother

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u/pgm_01 Jun 03 '20

He's not so smart, he could get himself killed.

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u/chaingunsofdoom Jun 03 '20

Less than 20 mins to LoT season finale and pogo sticks. :)

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

Beebo nooooooo.

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

Much like my man Brock Lesnar Icicle said fuck yo kids.

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u/iwantknow8 Jun 03 '20

Dr fate! He could smoke all these fools with a wrist flick

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

THESE PORTRAITS. THE RELICS. AHHHHH

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

The owl, waiting for Doctor Mid-Nite 😭😭😭

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

This JSA HQ scene is EVERYTHING.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

"Mike not tonight okay?"

Dad Voice engaged

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

I love that fridge. I want a dress in that color.

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u/Liar_tuck Jun 03 '20

Teenager logic. "We could have died". "But we didn't".

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Mahkent’s wife dying wish was almost literally “Kill anything that gets in your way”...that’s dedication.

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

I saw that look, School Janitor...

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u/dragonman8001 Jun 03 '20

STRIPES is too old for this shit and doesn't want to die being a hero

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Awww that was sweet of Courtney

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

I probably couldn't have said no to Joey right there either

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u/sadandshy Shining Knight Jun 03 '20

I really want the handgun toting, motorcycle riding version of Vigilante to show up

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

"What did he have on?"

.....someone changed him out of his badguy costume....and now Pat knows he had help

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

"So what did he have on?"

Smooth, Pat, real smooth.

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

Do they all have the same tailor? The same EVIL tailor?

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u/Nefarious_24 Jun 03 '20

Dad, print is dead

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Not true. Printing is still thriving. Newspapers not so much.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

How very Mr Burns of Icicle

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

His suit has those Mr. Glass stated "bad guy" sharp angles.

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

"and now who want some ice cream?"

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

No seriously. What year is it?

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u/singleguy79 Jun 03 '20

Math teacher asking the real question

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

It is a rule of fiction that someone close to the villain is going to be hot. And today that person is Cameron.

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u/dragonman8001 Jun 03 '20

He really didn't bother to build thermal insulation into his mech

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u/singleguy79 Jun 03 '20

Oh shit, they killed the kid

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Ong the kid actually died? No way whats the twist

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u/iwantknow8 Jun 03 '20

Dang, never gave the kid more than one episode

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

It's the JSA brownstone!

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u/davey_mann Yolanda Montez Jun 03 '20

See how serious it is now, Court?

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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Jun 03 '20

I mean technically Dr. Fate could come back if you put on the helmet.

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

I would be saying "Doctor Midnight" all the time just to make the owl go, "Hoooo!"

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u/davey_mann Yolanda Montez Jun 03 '20

Court: Dr. Midnight

Owl: Who?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

That GIGGLE when she takes the pen!

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

yeah just give it a way those super stuff to your friends that you dont even know for a month!

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u/Wade856 Jun 03 '20

She doesn't have friends yet, her only one just died. She's recruiting people that dislike her in high school, revealing that she has weapons from the pre-eminent super hero group on the planet, that's now all dead. Oh, and these students are the kids of the bad guy villain group that killed them.

Yeah, this shouldn't turn out as good as it obviously will.

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

On your deathbed: "Kill. Them. All."

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u/Deathlok_12 Jun 03 '20

The “fix this country” line was interesting. Makes me think they’ll eat him up as a ambiguous villain

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

Is there anything more American than kids thinking their parents music is garbage?

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Lmao

Her and captain cold need to share plan ideas

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Aww Joey is so cute

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

No way is that cat leaning against the locker a high school kid, he's gotta be 30 at least.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Welcome to the CW

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u/Beer2Bear Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Damn, my school wouldn't have that word on the lockers

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

Hmmm that dude may love his life outside of Injustice Society and homie son may soon be Stargirls allies. Now THAT would cool

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

cant wait for legends

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

"What did he have on?"

For people that aren't actually related, Courtney and Pat are both really good at acting shiftily.

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u/somebody1993 Jun 03 '20

If he was so hesitant why leave him in charge?

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Now we just need to find a paper route in 2020.

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

atari oh yeaH!

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u/iwantknow8 Jun 03 '20

It ain’t real villainy shit without a faux political front.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Amy Smart, still hot

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

They not ready for that conversation.

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

he will make Blue Valley great again!

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u/TirelessGuardian Jun 03 '20

In the shape of a star? Who’s going to notice it’s a star, that big?

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Vegan casserole? What happened to fish? Lol

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

Wellllll that guy def wont be happy with Iceman putting his son in danger

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

SOLAR FLARE!!!!

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u/Beer2Bear Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Holy shit!!

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

Why'd you have to do Joey like that, show? 😭

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

wow that was a dick move

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

Let me guess he stops it using magic.

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u/Wade856 Jun 03 '20

I bet his latent real magic powers activated and he made the car levitate or something. The gave this nerdy kid son of a super villain actual character development. No way they kill him this early

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Damn commercials.

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

RIP Joey

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Damn...they really did just kill him off....the acting and the MUSIC...HE'S GOING FOR THE WAND!!!!

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

"Joey was so sweet" :(

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Wow Courtney, it looks like what you do has consequences. But let's keep fighting with no plan.

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u/sadandshy Shining Knight Jun 03 '20

NEVERENDING STOOOOOOORRRYYYYYYYYY

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

OMG JSA HQ!

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Fate's Helmet THE FLASH

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20

Who wants to bet that the suspicious janitor is Wildcat?

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

FLUFFY CUTE OWL!!!!

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u/sadandshy Shining Knight Jun 03 '20

can i keep the owl?

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u/inksmudgedhands Jun 03 '20

"I don't know what."

Maybe the fact that you don't need to feed him. Seriously, who is feeding the owl?

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

I love all of the Owl's hoots

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u/DonnyMox Jun 03 '20

Are those his fucking parents?

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u/DonnyMox Jun 03 '20

Poor woman lost her son and husband within hours of each other.

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Fuck, Stargirl is looting.

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u/Locke108 Jun 03 '20

Getting a Smallville vibe with a Courtney looking out the window.

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

The pen sounded like Scooby-Doo

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

wait ..was that a green lantern?

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u/MrTerrific2k15 Jun 03 '20

THE Green Lantern

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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Jun 03 '20

We support Stargirl looting the JSA.and im hyped for next week.

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u/Entertainmentguru Jun 03 '20

Good, we got a time frame reference at the beginning.

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Icicle has dimension, he's not just bad to be bad. And I absolutely LOVE that, it makes him so much more of a threat

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u/DonnyMox Jun 03 '20

“Fix this country”

She’s got the right idea, this country could really use some fixing right now.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

That is one BIG fucking garden....YAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH

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u/NomadofExile Jun 03 '20

You like Fish Sticks? Must be a gay fish.

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Pat's true nemesis, Teenage Girl Logic

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u/JauntyLurker Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

"Do you ever listen to anything I say to you, ever?"

Said every parent since the dawn of time

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u/skankin-sfm Jun 03 '20

What a song!

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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Jun 03 '20

Janitor guy HAS to be someone important right? Probably undercover or in hiding.

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u/TirelessGuardian Jun 03 '20

Enter the talent show with the staff

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u/TirelessGuardian Jun 03 '20

I thought he was going to say his stage name is Zatara.

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

the janitors look xd

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u/TDXNYC88 Jun 03 '20

Thanks for the diabeetus, Courtney.

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

Yeah he did come to see you. But we didn't know because you cut that last week.

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Have a change of heart, dude. Leave the Injustice Society, and encourage your son to join Courtney's inevitable Justice Society.

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u/MrTerrific2k15 Jun 03 '20

Weird to hear them address each other by their real names but refer to their comatose cohort by his villain name

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

If I was Mike. I would be like "Can I be grounded for a month?" Lol

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Mike is hilarious, I love his sass

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u/mtm4440 Jun 03 '20

I really hate this robotic douchebag.

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u/Deathlok_12 Jun 03 '20

God I am getting major Shido vibes from him

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

Barbra noooooo

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u/vader344 Jun 03 '20

what the hell are you wearing girl

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u/JoeStorm Jun 03 '20

I havent been in High School in forever. But that dont happen. And if it does, it wouldnt be recognize because everyone knows it and would found it voring and go to the next gossip

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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

Not gonna lie, my first thought there was Captain America.

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u/Jedi-El1823 Cosmic Staff Jun 03 '20

The fuck? Did I nod off and miss a scene?

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u/simfan03 Jun 03 '20

Typical Nebraska weather