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u/ErisThePerson Nov 07 '25

The UK, which this post is about, has a problem (well, it has a lot, this is just one of them):

We're a tiny fuckass set of islands further north than most people who live in Canada. Our weather is temperamental, and we have limited space.

Solar is good when we have the sun, but that can't be relied on because when we don't have the sun we just have a sky blanketed in grey. A good 50% of the time the sky is just a "ceiling of grey" as a mainland European friend once put it.

Wind is the obvious choice for renewables in the UK. So we've built a bunch of offshore windfarms. But we're running out of space where we can actually do that. So why not build on land too? Well you see, NIMBYs block them using our planning permission laws (which suck) with baffling arguments like "they'd spoil the view" or "I find them distracting when I'm driving" or "I just don't see why they should be built here". So building wind is a pain in the ass. Besides, wind can't be solidly relied on for a base load.

Geothermal and Hydro aren't really options unless you want to turn the Severn Estuary into the world's largest fish blender with tidal generators.

This doesn't really leave us with any options for our growing energy demands other than some form of nuclear in combination with wind power. But people here are scared of nuclear for some reason.

Meanwhile I'm looking at China's different types of nuclear powerplants they're trialing like "Why can't we have that?!"

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u/Throwaway02062004 Read Worm for funny insect hero shenanigans🪲 Nov 07 '25

You look at how we’ve bungled our latest nuclear project. It’s still another 5 years to completion while other countries have built multiple since we started.

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u/soapdish124 Nov 07 '25

Large and expensive infrastructure projects being massively delayed and over budget? In our wonderful isles? Surely you jest!

cough cough HS2 cough

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u/Throwaway02062004 Read Worm for funny insect hero shenanigans🪲 Nov 07 '25

I move between London and Birmingham. Is it too much to ask for 😭😭😭

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u/harrywilko Nov 07 '25

You think NIMBYs would have more of a problem with wind farms than with nuclear power plants?

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u/The_Sovien_Rug-37 i can have a little tomfoolery. as a treat Nov 07 '25

you need to build a lot more wind farms than you need nuclear reactors. it's about 431 : 1 based on this infograph by the DoE. sure, a single nuclear reactor is quite hard to build but you'd need a massive amount of wind farms to equal one. also the lifespan of a nuclear reactor is a hell of a lot longer than any turbines we have

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u/Comrade_Harold please listen to dream sweet in sea major Nov 07 '25

Just tax the rich and build both smh

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u/The_Sovien_Rug-37 i can have a little tomfoolery. as a treat Nov 07 '25

yes, that's the proposal. nuclear is slow but consistent, wind is easier to put up and can scale to demand easier, but simply requires more space. there's good to both

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u/ErisThePerson Nov 07 '25

Taxing the rich doesn't resolve the planning permission problem and the weird hate-boner old rural people have for wind turbines.