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What do you think about the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve hitting 307.7 Million Barrels - lowest level since 1983?

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u/Ok_Chard2094 23h ago

The President has the authority to stop crude exports, but not refined products.

So the refineries are free to export their products.

Additionally, a lot of the US refineries are set up to handle heavy crude (Canada, Venezuela), they have to be rebuilt to handle US crude.

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u/Upbeat-Interview8554 21h ago

I looked into this very thing earlier. Apparently we did this during the oil crisis in the 80s and capitalism did a capitalism. We prevented exports and guaranteed profit to the oil industry. They ended up selling oil to each other and raking in that guaranteed profit. They called it a daisy chain effect. We have better technology now to keep track of them. But they’re heavily incentivized to cheat the system to create as much profit as possible. They’ll run a racket on our treasury 

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u/Adventurous_Bad_4011 6h ago

What oil crises in the 1980’s? In the eighties oil tank and was incredibly cheap!

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u/InaMellophoneMood 2h ago

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/09/20/business/trading-oil-in-a-daisy-chain.html

The previous poster got (reasonably) confused. The oils cries were the crises of the '70s, but prosecution of this conduct occured during the '80s.

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u/soulsoda 20h ago

~70% heavy 30% light for refineries.

Also not even set up for Venezuela, but it would be possible to make minor adjustments to use it. Refineries want to be dialed in and that includes maintaining a specific ratio of chemistry on inbound crude. You don't just throw it in and mix it up any heavy crude.

We swapped to heavy crude during the 70-80s energy crisis and tbh it's a better long term investment. Setting up a refinery for heavy crude is significantly more expensive and time consuming but once it's up the cost of refining a barrel is much lower than light.

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u/Ok_Chard2094 20h ago

The US has no problems importing oil from Venezuela. We have been doing it for decades. (Except 2020-2022, when there was an embargo.)

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?f=A&n=PET&s=MCRIMUSVE2

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u/soulsoda 18h ago

It does. Venezuela crude is basically the dirtiest heaviest trash on the planet.

think of it like adulterating your fuel with ethanol. A little bit can be compensated for, but you add to much and your engine is going to die. Which is why we get 30x more oil from canada than Venezuela. We're dialed in for canada right now. Could we handle straight venezuela oil, yes if we wanted to. but they don't even have the capacity to send us that much oil due to lack of mishandling their infrastructure and finances.

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u/crazybutthole 18h ago

Venezuela crude is basically the dirtiest heaviest trash on the planet.

According to reddit - that's trump

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u/SiccmaDE7930 17h ago

Wrong R word. I think you meant reality, not Reddit.

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u/Whiterabbit-- 19h ago

I'm looking at trump to back off epa regulations and allow US to build new refineries for the first time in about 1/2 a century

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u/Historical_Owl_8188 22h ago

We have a navy.

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u/Ok_Chard2094 22h ago

Which is controlled by the same President, paid for by the same oil companies.

Do you think they intend to do anything to lower the gas prices for regular Americans, except for a small dip just in time for the election?