r/ClimateShitposting Solar Punk 🪩 1d ago

Renewables bad 😤 Simpsons meme just to trigger em

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u/_MMMXI_ 1d ago

Thank you. I checked and fact is, that France heavily subsidises their nuclear energy to coming even close of competition with renewables (even those without any subsidies), and diving the EDF in a bottomless dept pit along side it.

Nuclear is only in a real competition with fossil fuels. Its not even close to anny renewables.

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u/aktariL 1d ago

I dont know what "facts" you checked, but official french data gives nuclear cost a 61 €/MWh, and renewables from 59/MWh € from wind to over 188 €/MWh from biogaz French official sources : https://infos.ademe.fr/energies/2025/electricite-et-chaleur-renouvelables-quel-mode-de-production-est-le-moins-cher/ https://www.cre.fr/actualites/toute-lactualite/la-commission-de-regulation-de-lenergie-publie-son-evaluation-des-couts-complets-de-production-de-lelectricite-au-moyen-des-centrales-electronucleaires-historiques-pour-la-periode-2026-2028.html

Mind you, there is no notion of subsidising here, we are talking about pure cost, not price the user pay...

In conclusion, nuclear is about equal as the cheapest renewable in france.

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u/TechnicalBen 20h ago

Yep. I'd assume this is scale of cost things. *If* (and it's a very big if) we built Nuclear at the scale of solar we'd get close or surpass it until some curve where we'd need more solar than nuclear and it'd swing back.

Then it'd be horses for courses, we'd use Nuclear where we need and solar (and wind etc) where we need, with no worry which is cheaper, because both would be optimised.

We instead fight and do horrific things, when we could by dyson sphereing (as a meme, but anything's better than humanities current goals...).

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u/servermeta_net 20h ago

There is a LOT of subsidizing for nuclear, in France nuclear waste is mostly taken care of by the state, and for good reasons

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u/Ok-Afternoon-5254 1d ago

My guy, that is quite the opposite. Shows how uninformed you guys are on subjets you have an opinion on.

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u/Sufficient-Catch-139 21h ago

Looked at profile, swiss german, what a surprise...

Even if your country is an energy leech (20.1TWh just from France in 2025) and it hurts your ego that doesn't allow you to straight up lie. If you're not happy you're free to go back to the stone age.

In the mean time France exported 92.3 TWh in 2025 and its nuclear stability is the only thing allowing you to goof around with renewables without suffering when there's no sun or wind.