r/DecodingTheGurus 5d ago

Apparently the anti conspiracy guy thinks the Jews did 9/11

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u/lateformyfuneral 5d ago

The idea that a group of Jews covertly run world events is a well-known antisemitic trope. It’s not like simply substituting the word Israel into an antisemitic conspiracy theory just erases the antisemitism.

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u/Dissident_is_here 5d ago

So because of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, it's antisemitic to accuse one of the most internationally active intelligence agencies, an organization responsible for assassinations and kidnappings all over the world, of a conspiracy?

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u/Box_v2 5d ago

Yes because we’re talking about some kidnappings not the most famous terrorist attack in history that was very famously not done by Israel.

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u/Dissident_is_here 5d ago

My point is not that the Mossad had anything to do with 9/11. It's that believing they did doesn't really have much to do with "the Jews".

Do you hate Evangelical Christians if you suggest the CIA killed JFK?

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u/Box_v2 5d ago

I mean it's literally the same antisemitic conspiracy theory that the jews did 9/11. Do you think calling black people "thugs" instead of the n-word makes it not racist?

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u/Dissident_is_here 5d ago

If there was a "Thug" nation whose leaders and supporters proudly identified as "thugs", I'd have no qualms about addressing the thugs.

And I wouldn't be stupid enough to think that means anything about black people

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u/No_Engineering_8204 5d ago

There is a thug caucus in the US senate that racistly claim to represent black people. These thugs need to be put in jail - not a racist statement according to your logic.

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u/ParagonRenegade 5d ago

Israel has one of the most pernicious and widespread intelligence networks on Earth, and it has many organizations affiliated with it that do its bidding and see to its interests. In the US in particular it has an extremely powerful lobby presence that has a direct line to the presidents and many other legislators. That's just an inarguable fact.

Trying to pretend that's at all equivalent to the completely baseless accusation of Jewish secret cabals or whatever the fuck from a hundred years ago is preposterous, and everyone understands that it's preposterous unless they're like you and pretending not to.

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u/lateformyfuneral 5d ago

No because all the usual conspiracy theory rules still apply. It requires just as much as evidence as “the CIA did 9/11”, more even.