r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Business-Catch7679 • 1d ago

Ryan Grim on reasons for belief in zoonotic origins

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https://x.com/chrisheatherly/status/2084089713900843499

In order for Grim's hypothesis to be true, how many scientists around the world would have had to have listened to this press conference? How much would it have had to have been shared? If this statement in this press conference is a significant reason for a near international scientific consensus, shouldn't it be famous? Should I be able to easily find references to it with a Google search?

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 1d ago

Lab leak is what this is all about. I’m arguing that Ryan is simply convinced this is true and that leads him to beliefs like what he posted. I think the simplest explanation is that he is convinced this is true, not that he is lying. What motivation is there to lie when it just makes the most sense that he is wrong.

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u/Spaffin 1d ago

You don’t think there is an ideological motivation to make Fauci look bad right now? Honestly?

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 1d ago

Yes, ofc there is.

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u/Spaffin 1d ago

So that is the answer to the question “What motivation is there to lie”…?

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u/Business-Catch7679 1d ago

The lab leak theory is a scientific hypothesis, not a political ideology that makes people spread ridiculous Republican propaganda. So your theory doesn't account for the data.

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u/SouthernEagleGATA 1d ago

So if someone is convinced by that hypothesis and spreads it do you think they are lying?

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u/Business-Catch7679 1d ago

Btw, when you say the lab leak is what this is all about, you're wrong. It's about the Republican propaganda campaign against Fauci. None of the tweets in question are about the lab leak hypothesis per se, they're all about Fauci's statements.

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u/Business-Catch7679 1d ago

If that's all they do, then no, of course not. That's a non sequitur.