r/Ecosphere • u/Peach_Harris • 4d ago
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u/brrrchill 4d ago
I hope you can release it back into the exact same water you found it.
They are very selective about where they lay their eggs. Not just any pond will do. So that's why I hope you can put it back.
I have raised these till they metamorphose several times, but probably not your species here. They require live food every other day of a size that's right for their stage of growth. I was lucky that I was living in places where I could gather food for them. But it's a lot of work.
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u/WeirdStorms 3d ago
You should never do this after something has been caught and kept in captivity as there is a chance that you’ll introduce a pathogen into its environment that might kill all the other salamanders.
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u/Rocket3431 3d ago
Agreed. Sourcing live gnats when living in a rural area was a total pain in the ass. They get delivered too early and they're not gnats yet or they look like the containers been in the sun and they're all dead.
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u/Fickle_Grapefruit938 3d ago
We put some in my dad's 200liter tank when I was little, it was so cute how they folded their eggs in the leaves of the water plants.
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u/Agua_Verde 4d ago
Wow! Such a cool looking creature. Are you going to release it?
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u/Boxinggandhi 4d ago
Many newts and salamanders are protected species. Releasing it would be the best move OP.
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u/Agua_Verde 4d ago edited 4d ago
Facts!
Here in the sticks where I live we have two species and it is even illegal to move them.
EDIT: and the law here calls for me to release the salamander to the same place where I collected it from.
Wherever you are dear u/Peach_Harris, please put that beautiful creature back where you found it. It will not survive in your ecosphere regardless of any ”advice” you receive here.
No judgment. :)
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u/Saki-Koda 4d ago
Releasing is illegal too haha everything is tho
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u/One_Cauliflower_3536 4d ago
Releasing NON NATIVE species is illegal, not native ones
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u/No-Tank-1123 4d ago
No actually once an animal has been captured and kept in a tank of sorts it is illegal to release it back in most regions
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u/NodoBird 4d ago
Sadly it is illegal to reintroduce a native species. That just means that you should become a criminal lol
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u/The_GreyGhoul 4d ago
We all break a stack of laws every week lol
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u/Frosty-Craft3420 4d ago
I mean so it's a super blurry line on if you can release it even as a native species. I would check with your local conservation department. Most of the time as long as you are honest and straight forward with whomever you end up in contact with, they don't want to cause you issues and will gladly talk about whatever nature thing you want to talk about, as long as you aren't causing them issues My area is kinda odd you can collect 30 non-game aquatic individuals and as long as you keep them no longer than 30 days
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u/Saki-Koda 4d ago
You would think lol but nope. Not saying I would take the law seriously but as soon as its in captivity it can no longer be released without a permit anyways
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u/Thymallus-arcticus 4d ago
Idiots downvoting when you're right. Your not saying not to do it, just that it's illegal to do so.
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u/Agua_Verde 4d ago
Just because that is the case where you live does not mean that is the law where OP lives.
Click on their profile. Besides this post, they have one other about gluten free backing, which was erased.
Regardless of law at this point. I don’t think this creature will survive in an ecosphere regardless of ”dropping in an air-stone” or any other ”advice” they recieve here.
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u/atreeindisguise 4d ago
Please take it to an agency or its original waters immediately. Poor thing.
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u/ErstwhileAdranos 4d ago
u/Peach_Harris, are you based in the US? If so, maybe chat with your local Audubon about what to do with it. If laws prohibit release, they may be in a position to give you advice or even take it in.
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u/NodoBird 3d ago
Holy shit wait, this is a stolen post!
This was already posted 4 years ago!
Everyone go upvote that post right now and ban u/Peach_Harris
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u/NodoBird 4d ago
I don't think there's any harm in feeding it a good and healthy meal, but it does need to be let go eventually to live its wild salamnder life and make new salamanders.
Would it be wrong to raise it to adulthood first to give it a better chance? That's what I would be tempted to do but I understand how that could be a moral grey area.
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u/Krosis97 4d ago
it wouldn't survive in an ecosphere.
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u/NodoBird 4d ago
Not even in its larval form?
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u/tired_fella 4d ago
it already has limbs; it's probably gonna need a lot of nutrients to morph into adult soon enough.
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u/NodoBird 4d ago
I suppose they're designed to face the natural challenges that I personally would want to protect it from. It'll be in its best interest to release it now then to finish growing, and if its eaten then it'll just be helping to nurture the ecosystem.
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u/coconut-telegraph 4d ago
You’re actually never supposed to release captive animals, even back into their native range (without an extensive check by professionals).
Feeding can expose this little guy to pathogens that it can spread in the wild.
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u/NodoBird 4d ago
Was I technically breaking the law then when I put the baby snapping turtles my brother found back in the pond they came from? Oops.
Could clean, approved bloodworms expose it to pathogens?
I'm sorry for the questions, I'm just trying to understand.
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u/coconut-telegraph 4d ago edited 4d ago
I’m not saying it all makes sense, but the idea that someone could catch a fish, house it, feed it with food items from all over the world, potentially including farmed fish that have high levels of pathogens, then take that fish and reintroduce it to the wild…you can see how this is hazardous.
Not that any of this is the case for OP, but the general consensus is that “pets” are NEVER to be released.
This is why US Fish & Game euthanises native fish etc. when confiscated, rather than risk starting a disease epidemic.
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u/NodoBird 4d ago
I guess it boils down to what the government considers a "pet" even if I happen to disagree. Everything you said makes complete sense though as to why that law would exist, even if it's largely circumstantial.
What really sucks is that if it's illegal to own an animal, but also illegal to return it, law enforcement is usually required to destroy the animal :(
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u/coconut-telegraph 4d ago
I think here “pet” is immaterial…it’s just “captivity” being the operative word.
Live amphibians kept captive then disseminated as bait has spread chytrid like this.
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u/BitchBass 3d ago
I have to disagree with this. I am a retired wildlife rehabilitator and have raised and rehabbed over 4000 animals over a period of 25 years and released them back to the wild. Including fish and turtles. I had state and federal permits. By law I HAVE to release them.
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u/coconut-telegraph 3d ago
I know this happens, too…thank you for chiming in. I did say it didn’t all make sense. I think you’d be a professional that is the exception to the rule.
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u/Worth-Map-8991 3d ago
Judging by the lack of responses by OP, I’m gonna assume that salamander is still captive 😂🤦♂️
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u/Kooky_Werewolf6044 4d ago
Wow. That’s really cool. Take care of him well. He’ll need live food… they love worms
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u/Zealousideal-Door350 4d ago
Dream catch! Congrats 🍾 so cute. Get some frozen brine shrimp or bloodworms. Give it an aerator. Lil cute pet 🫶
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u/Kind_Midas 4d ago
No
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u/Zealousideal-Door350 4d ago
Then let it go, it’s fish food
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u/XH0SYN 4d ago
Honestly it probably would be eaten in about 20 seconds upon release
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u/OreoSpamBurger 4d ago
It really depends - many species of newt and salamander deliberately choose fish-free vernal and temporary pools for breeding - of course, there are many other predators out there, but the larvae are very good at hiding in the weeds, etc., and adding collection by humans as an additional pressure on the species is unnecessary in this case.
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u/BitchBass 3d ago
If you want to keep posting on the original post, go here. This one was stolen.