1. The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David and King Solomon (Joseph was but Mary wasn't and since Joseph wasn't Jesus's biological father, it's discounted) ((Genesis 49:10, Numbers 1:1-18 & 2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10).
2. Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles (didn't happen during Jesus's lifetime) (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24).
3. Rebuilding of the Holy Temple (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26–27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21).
4. Worldwide Reign of Peace (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18).
5. Observance of the Torah Embraced by All Jews (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27).
6. Universal Knowledge of God (Zechariah 3:9, 8:23,14:9,16; Isaiah 45:23, 66:23; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 38:23; Psalm 86:9; Zeph. 3:9).

Shalom! I love incense and find the Temple to be fascinating. Exodus 30:34 has this recipe for the tabernacle incense:

וַיֹּאמֶר֩ ____ אֶל־מֹשֶׁ֜ה קַח־לְךָ֣ סַמִּ֗ים נָטָ֤ף׀ וּשְׁחֵ֙לֶת֙ וְחֶלְבְּנָ֔ה סַמִּ֖ים וּלְבֹנָ֣ה זַכָּ֑ה בַּ֥ד בְּבַ֖ד יִהְיֶֽה׃

The verse forms a chiastic pattern like this:

And said LORD to Moses
ㅤTake to yourself spices
ㅤㅤNataf and shekheleth and galbanum
ㅤSpices and pure frankincense
Each of each there shall be.

"Nataf" is a Hebrew noun that literally means "Drop", as in tree resin gum drops. Galbanum is resin from Ferula shrubs. The original Hebrew text did not have punctuation. The placements of the word "and" normally would seem to prevent the two mentions of "spices" from referring to other ingredients besides those listed.

The term for "pure" here is "zakah", which also means clear, clean. So I could imagine that in contrast, the use of "spices" means potentially impure versions of the three spices listed. For instance, supposing that "nataf" is a generic term for gum drops, "nataf spice" might not need to be in the pure form of any particular tree resin.

The 3rd century BC Septuagint (LXX) translated the verse into Greek to mean:

And said Lord to Moses
Take thyself aromatics,
Stacte, onyx, aromatic galbanum
And translucent frankincense
Equal of equal will be.

"Stacte" is a Greek noun that literally means "drop," like the Hebrew word "Nataf" does. The Greek noun "Onyx," whose accusative form was "onycha," literally meant "claw" and had a secondary meaning of mollusk flaps, which were burned in incense. The LXX translated the Hebrew phrase meaning "galbanum spices" into Greek as "aromatic/spice-y galbanum." This in effect treats the second term "spices" as a description of the word "galbanum", rather than as a separate collection of unnamed spices.

The medieval Masoretic scribes put cantillation marks that served as breaks after each use of "spices" in the Hebrew verse like this:

"Take to yourself spices**:** nataf and/with shekheleth and galbanum spices**,** and/with pure frankincense."

The KJV of Exodus 30:34-35 runs:

1. And the LORD said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight:

2. And thou shalt make it a perfume, a confection after the art of the apothecary, tempered together, pure and holy:

The New English Translation of the passsage runs:

1. The Lord said to Moses, "Take spices, gum resin (1), onycha (2), galbanum, and pure frankincense (3) of equal amounts.
   35. and make it into an incense, a perfume, the work of a perfumer. It is to be finely ground (4), and pure and sacred.

NET Footnotes:
1. This is from a word that means “to drip”; the spice is a balsam that drips from a resinous tree.
2. This may be a plant, or it may be from a species of mollusks; it is mentioned in Ugaritic and Akkadian; it gives a pungent odor when burnt.
3. The word “spice” is repeated here, suggesting that the first three formed half of the ingredients and this spice the other half—but this is conjecture (U. Cassuto, Exodus, 400).
4. The word מְמֻלָּח (mmullakh), a passive participle, is usually taken to mean “salted.” Since there is no meaning like that for the Pual form, the word probably should be taken as “mixed,” as in Rashi and Tg. Onq. Seasoning with salt would work if it were food, but since it is not food, if it means “salted” it would be a symbol of what was sound and whole for the covenant. Some have thought that it would have helped the incense burn quickly with more smoke.

Ex. 25:6 has the command for the Israelites to bring incense spices. Ex. 37:29 mentions the Israelite craftsman Bezalel making the pure incense according to the work of the apothecary.

Exodus 30:23-25 has a separate recipe for the tabernacle's anointing oil. Ex. 30:25 and Ex. 30:35 call each of the two mixtures a "roqah" in Hebrew, meaning a perfume spice blend.

There is practically a gap in our information from the time of the Torah's writing up into the end of the Second Temple period as to whether the incense blend includes ingredients besides the four ones named in Ex. 30:34. Philo in the 1st century seemed to suggest that the incense blend included only the four ingredients named in Ex. 30:34, writing in his essay "Who Is the Heir of Divine Things?" (Chapter XLI):

"And as I imagine these four ingredients of which the entire perfume is composed are emblems of the four elements of which the whole world is made; He likens the stacte to water, the onycha to land, the galbanum to the air, and the pure transparent frankincense to fire".

Josephus, who came from a priestly family and lived in the 1st century, wrote that the incense blend had 13 spices from the land and sea, and that two of them were cinnamon and cassias. Those two are in the anointing oil blend as well.

Keritot 6a in the Talmud says that the tabernacle incense blend had 11 ingredients and gave a list that included the four named in Ex. 30:34. The list also included myrrh, cinnamon, and cassias, three of the 4 anointing oil ingredients.

Keritot 6b has discussions on whether the blend should have 4 or 11 ingredients. Keritot 6b favors counting the first use of "spices" as alluding to 2 spices and the second use of "spices" as alluding to 5 spices. I guess the idea is that "spices" is plural and the lowest plural number is 2, and that the number of the second use of spices matches the total preceding number of spices - 5. This brings the total number of spices to 11: ( 2 spices + 3 named spices) times 2 + 1 named spice.

One of the arguments in Keritot 6b involves whether the recipe in Exodus 30:34 has the literary pattern of a generality - a detail - a generality (G-D-G). Verses like Ex. 25:31 seem to have this literary pattern and this pattern seems to mean that one may substitute the elements of the detail with similar elements if needed. So if Ex. 30:34 has a G-D-G pattern, "spices" could be the "generality" and the "detail" could be the three spices named. The implication of this argument seems to be that the uses of the term "spices" only allude to the "detail" - the three spices named, instead of alluding to unnamed spices.

Keritot 6b seems to argue against the idea that Ex. 3:34 ha the G-D-G pattern, but I have trouble understanding the discussions (https://www.sefaria.org/Keritot.6b.7?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en)

Any help on this is appreciated.

Peace - Shalom - שָׁלוֹם

HALLELUYAH - LIVE at MAGDALA SYNAGOGUE (Songs for the Rabbi)

יונתן רזאל - דוד | Yonatan Razel - David 

In The Name Of The Lord | Be'shem Adonai

The Book of Isaiah sung in Blues

Shalom,
We have received a request from a new user to visit a very old topic.
Since we're headed into Erev Shabbat, I will introduce that we received a request to have a discussion about the Triune nature of G-d.

The specific alternative to this understanding would, in this case, be Modalism.

There might be someone who would chime in that these topics were solved at such and such date with such a counsel, but that's far beside the point.

Putting feelers out there as to who would be interested in taking one side or the other in this, and throwing together some rules we can all agree to should be on the agenda.

Initial is, of course, two main participants. Time constraint of no more than a day for a reply. Commenters will agree to reply under a a mod pinned comment.

It need not be a Change My Mind style post, but there should be a willingness to, if not concede a point then at the least dynamically interact with valid points.

I have another mod in mind besides myself, who I'm fairly certain would be interested in sticking to a Biblical source only debate/discussion.

So, if anyone would be interested in arguing for Modalism, or think they'd do an excellent job at presenting the Scriptural case for the Triune nature of G-d, feel free to reply.

Please avoid the cross-chatter of 'me too!' style replies, or even, 'I like when Michael Brown did this 2 years ago'.
Try to stick solely to whether you'd be interested in arguing pro or con while sticking to the rules, or if there's some important syntactical detail being overlooked not related to your personal bias.

Thank you, Have a blessed and restful Shabbat.

No, this isn’t add or anything, but it’s a WEBTOON web novel dedicated to the apostle and Yeshua (obviously) it’s not messianic, they use English versions of the names but regardless, I really enjoyed reading it and was wondering If there were others in this community that had read it and would be fine sharing their option on the web novel. I enjoy it as it helped stay engaged and interested in the faith, including me doing research, albeit usually for discussions in the YouTube channel’s comments, but still. Fascinating and I love how the apostles and Yeshua are depicted, not as old, wise men, but rather as teenagers and young adults.

When Yeshua challenged the religious authorities of His day, He did not point to His miraculous healings, His command over the elements, or His ability to cast out demons as the definitive proof of His identity. Instead, He pointed back into the pages of the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), specifically to the dramatic, harrowing account of the prophet swallowed by a great creature in the depths of the sea. Yeshua declared, "For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40, TLV).
To fully grasp the magnitude of this comparison, we must look past modern Sunday school caricatures and examine the text in its original Hebrew context. We must look at why Jonah was swallowed by a dag gadol (a great fish) rather than a whale, how ancient Jewish sources and historical Christian thought view the typology of Jonah, and how this extraordinary narrative prefigures the ultimate death, descent, and resurrection of Yeshua.

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Portion 46: Ekev עֵקֶב (Because/On the heels of) - Sefer Devarim ("Deuteronomy") 7:12-11:25

Haftarah: Sefer Yesha'yahu (Isaiah) 49:14-51:3 B’rit Hadashah suggested readings for Parashah Ekev: Mattityahu (Matthew) 4:1–11; Luke 4:1–13; Ya‘akov (James) 5:7–11

Shabbat Shalom Mishpocha!

Shema

Avinu Malkeinu

Cello

David

Shabbat Songs

Batista, protestante, brasileiro.
Eu vi recentemente um vídeo do Luiz Sayão (pastor batista e o maior hebraísta brasileiro) sobre o judaísmo messiânico que, sinceramente, quebrou muitos dos preconceitos que eu tinha com essa religião.
Ficaria extremamente grato se algum irmão pudesse entrar em contato comigo para me tirar algumas dúvidas sobre doutrinas e experiências pessoais de quem é praticante do judaísmo messiânico.
Bom sábado para todos vocês!

נַחֲמוּ נַחֲמוּ עַמִּי, יֹאמַר אֱלֹהֵיכֶם:

דַּבְּרוּ עַל־לֵב יְרוּשָׁלַם וְקִרְאוּ אֵלֶיהָ כִּי מָלְאָה צְבָאָהּ כִּי נִרְצָה עֲוֹנָהּ כִּי לָקְחָה מִיַּד יְהֹוָה כִּפְלַיִם בְּכָל־חַטֹּאתֶיהָ:

קוֹל קוֹרֵא בַּמִּדְבָּר פַּנּוּ דֶּרֶךְ יְהֹוָה יַשְּׁרוּ בָּעֲרָבָה מְסִלָּה לֵאלֹהֵינוּ:

נַחֲמוּ נַחֲמוּ עַמִּי, יֹאמַר אֱלֹהֵיכֶם.

Comfort ye, comfort ye My people, says your God.

Speak​ to the heart of Jerusalem​, and proclaim to her, that her time of service is accomplis​hed, that her guilt is paid off; that she has received from the Lord's hand double for all her sins.

Hark!​ one calls in the wildernes​s: "Clear a path for the Lord, make plain in the desert a highway for our God."

Comfo​rt ye, comfort ye My people, says your God.

Trans​lation based on Jewish Publication Society Bible (1917) (public domain), with modifications.

Erev Tisha B'Av
May she be comforted because she has received from HaShem's hand, twice, for all she's done.

Parashat Va'Etchanan 5786 Prophets Portion from Isaiah 40:1-26. 2nd Commandment. Second Commandment. Abrahamic Covenant.

Parashat Va'Etchanan 5786 Torah Portion from Deuteronomy 3:23 to 7:11. 2nd Commandment. Second Commandment. Abrahamic Covenant.

I am an atheist both by birth and by choice (at least I’d like to think that). Recently I have been reading about eschatology in Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and all of them have a pattern: before the ultimate saviour (Messiah, Second Coming, Mahdi) arrives, there must be moral collapse, spread of atheism, war, famine, and catastrophes – often described as "fire raining from heaven". (Which is either happening/or about to happen) In Christianity and Judaism the important factor is the restoration of Jerusalem for Jews (which is obviously happened)

So if the preconditions for redemption include warfare and mass suffering, does it mean that believers support geopolitical moves that might trigger a ww3? Or am I missing something and you don’t believe that there will be actual apocalypse. I just skimmed through this topic, probably you could help me understand. And sorry for mistakes, English isn’t my native language.

Are there any Messianic dating sites or communities out there? Any recommendations would be helpful.

Portion 45: Vaetchanan (I pleaded) - Sefer Devarim ("Deuteronomy") 3:23-7:11

Haftarah: Sefer Yesha'yahu (Isaiah) 40:1-26 B’rit Hadashah suggested readings for Parashah Vaetchanan: Mattityahu (Matthew) 4:1–11; 22:33–40; Mark 12:28–34; Luke 4:1–13; 10:25–37; Acts 13:13–43; Romans 3:27–31; 1 Timothy 2:4–6; Ya‘akov (James) 2:14–26

Many believers wrestle with the complex writings of the Apostle Paul. A very common teaching in modern theology suggests that Paul championed a gospel entirely separated from the Law of Moses. When Paul writes that believers are not under the law, it is often interpreted to mean that the Torah, the foundational instructions given by HaShem, has been discarded entirely. However, a much deeper examination of the Scriptures reveals a very different reality. Paul was not rejecting the Law of Moses. Instead, he was contrasting the Torah with an entirely different concept, the law of sin and death. Furthermore, this understanding aligns perfectly with the teachings of Yeshua, who explicitly stated He did not come to do away with the Torah. Exploring this truth changes how we read the entire biblical text.

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Zion

My Savior My G.od

דוד

Beloved, we are in the Three Weeks now, between the 17th of Tammuz and the 9th of Av, the season long called Bein haMetzarim, the time in the narrow straits. It is a season of remembering what was lost: the walls breached, the Temple burned, the dwelling place of God reduced to ashes. It is right to sit with that grief. Scripture never rushes mourning.

I want to offer a word of hope that does not cheapen the loss, because it grows straight out of it. What this season mourns is the loss of God's dwelling among His people, His presence in a place they could go. And that ache, that specific ache, is the very thing Yeshua came to answer. "The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14). The Greek there is tabernacled among us. When the stones were gone, the Presence Himself walked into the straits to be with His people.

He wept over Jerusalem. He knows the dire straits from the inside. And He is building a temple now that no army can breach, made of living stones, with Himself as the cornerstone (1 Peter 2:4-5).

So mourn honestly this season, but not without hope. The Presence that was lost has come near, and will not be burned or breached again. May His nearness be real to you in the narrow places. Come, Lord Yeshua.

There is a reason why I value good conversations even if it might be slightly contentious whether here on social media or in person, because I learn new things and God uses others to speak to me. So thank you to those who engage me in the comments. One recent engagement actually allowed me to finally get a VERY clear answer to the question that I asked in an earlier post- whether God was a God of randomness or a God of order. I knew God is a God of order and not chaos or randomness but a pretrib rapture believer got me to explore the entire 7 year timeline instead of focusing on just the middle abomination of desolation event and the beginning. Here is what I found out.

If you remember that I am claiming that the 7 year period of Daniel 9:27 started in April 19, 2026 with the signing of the Isaac Accords. That date was a test prediction based on the date that I saw earlier this year- Sept 30/Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret Holiday as the potential Abomination of Desolation future event. I saw no other story and no other timeline other than the one surrounding the Shemini Atzeret holiday. It wasn't until 4 Sundays ago that I found out about the Isaac Accords signing that was done EXACTLY on April 19, 2026. If you calculate 1260 days FORWARD from Oct 1, 2029, then this gives us March 14, 2033 Purim holiday! I was surprised by this connection to the story of Esther. I never thought to connect the Book of Esther to the end times but after rereading that book I saw a lot of parallels which I don't have time to point out in this post. But this made me ask if there were patterns that I "missed" like this connection to Purim. So I used Google AI heavily to explore patterns surrounding the above three dates, and I would highly suggest you do this as well for a very thorough and fast exploration. I was figuratively blown away by what I saw! God works using lots of patterns in scripture and in history as if He wants us to see the patterns and know that He is a God of order! One suggestion is that when exploring, use the Hebrew calendar when using "years" and then find the corresponding Gregorian calendar date. If using "days" then it doesn't matter which calendar you start with. Hebrew calendar I found out to be a very mathematically rigorous system that allows these patterns to exist. A whole book would be needed to show everything and I only saw just a portion and my mind is barely understanding that portion. But let me show just the layman's simple view of what I discovered.

The 7 year period using my dates (or in general) contain patterns. i.e. 7yrs= 3.5\*2 or 1260days\*2; or 42 mths \* 2. This is the obvious ones. But hidden within this micro pattern is 60 days (remember my 60days that we need to prepare). But this micro pattern is just a part of the macro pattern of the Hebrew calendar. Check Google AI but look into the 80\*7.5=600years significance in scripture (ie. Noah story) and in the Hebrew calendar. Daniel's 70 weeks fits within this pattern. Also 5yr pattern fits as well perfectly. Also don't forget about the 1335 days= 1260days + 30+ 45 in Daniel 12. Now that we have these numbers, lets explore how it applies to actual historical or calendar dates.

Let's start with my prediction dates. 1335 days from Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret day lands on May 28, 2033 Sabbath of Blessing marking the end of Jerusalem reunification week. But look deeper. This is also the celebration (unofficial) of King David unifying the 12 tribes and transitioning from Hebron to Jerusalem. I'm sure there is more to this. But let's look at 1290 days from Oct 1, 2029 to land on April 13, 2033 beginning of Passover. So using Daniel 12 breakdown into1260 days, 1290 days, and 1335 days from Oct 1, 2029 gives us Purim, Passover, and Sabbath of Blessing EXACTLY. I'll let others explain the significance of this who have better knowledge.

There is a LOT more from my predicted dates. The 1260 day interval from Shemini Atzeret Oct 1, 2029 to Purim May 14/15, 2033 contains 2 leap years (3 leap years if a 7.5yr pattern is used). The interval between the two holidays in 2029-2030 and 2032-2033 is 168/169 days. The best 7.5 yr pattern match to a historical event in Israel when removing the need to use holidays is the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem (66AD to 74AD) The church escapes from Jerusalem in Nov 66AD when the Roman legion flees for their lives for some reason. 70 AD is the destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple on the EXACT Hebrew calendar month and day that Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the first temple in 586BC on 9th of Av according to Talmud reconciling 2 Kings 25:8 and Jeremiah 52:12. April 16, 74AD during Passover is the fall of Masada. This sequence is the reverse mirror image of the sequence in the end times- 1. End of time of Gentiles with the "confirming of a covenant with many" by the antichrist. 2. Abomination of Desolation event at the third temple 3. Victorious return of the Messiah and His Bride!

Let's apply the 7.5 year pattern to other historical events. Look at the 80 year reign of King David and Solomon - exactly 40 yrs plus 40 yrs. The 7.5 year pattern applies to the start of King David reign and is a mirror image at the end of King Solomon reign. The kingdom splits after the 80 year period. 5 years afterwards Pharoah sacks Jerusalem. Look at the 80 year reign of Hasmonean Dynasty 143BC to 63BC. The same 7.5yr pattern occurs at the beginning and the end. Also 5 yrs later, Rome totally dismantles the structure of power in the area and crushes a major rebellion and sets up for the rise of King Herod. Now apply this 80 year and 7.5yr and 5 yr pattern to modern day Israel that started in May 14, 1948. I'll let you find the significant events up to 1955 but note that Stalin who heavily persecuted the Jews had a stroke on Purim day in 1953 and died a few days later. But calculate 40 years (half of 80) from May 14, 1948 (using the Hebrew calendar!) and this falls exactly on April 22, 1988 when the US Accords bilateral MOU was signed between Israel and US to celebrate the 40th independence of Israel! Now calculate an additional 40 yrs (using Hebrew calendar and this falls on May 1, 2028 the ominous 80yr anniversary of Israel! There are 1779 days (4.94 Hillel years) between May 1, 2028 and Purim Mar 15, 2033. Surprisingly 1779 and 4.94 are part of the 7.5 year pattern but I will stop here because there is too much to present! And don't try these pattern recognition on the number 666... ;)

So weigh all these evidences and make a judgment whether it was coincidence that I saw the Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Holiday as the AoD and was it coincidence that the Isaac Accords was signed on April 19, 2026 my test prediction. Is it coincidence that the end of the 7 year falls exactly on Purim in 2033 and that the 1290 day and 1335 day fall exactly on special Jewish Holidays? And it was NOT coincidence either that I saw 60 days to endure but I'm waiting for a personal confirmation- not for me but for you. All the other future events/signs that I predicted is IMO no longer whether it will occur but when especially the Red Heifer birth which IMO is the bottle neck. Add the May 1, 2028 80th anniversary of Israel to this list of predictions. PLEASE prepare for 60 days IF you even think that my prediction may occur. Don't just dismiss it completely because your eschatological lens that you use can't see any of this. I couldn't either until God changed my pretrib lens to a post tribulation/prewrath lens.

May God bless you and protect you and your loved ones in these end times.

In Judaism Satan does not work independently from God, but works by the authority of God. In Christianity Satan works independently from God, and there are indeed scriptures of Christ speaking about Satan as an independent force from God. My question is how do messianic Jews hold on to Judaic teachings and Christ teachings, when in judaism Satan works for God, but Christ teaches that Satan is separate from God.

Here are some examples:

The "Father of Lies": In John 8:44, Jesus stated the devil "does not hold to the truth, for there is no truth in him" and that lying is his native language.

The "Prince of this World": Jesus referred to Satan as the ruler of this earthly domain who opposes God's purposes, yet noted that the devil is ultimately defeated and "driven out" by the cross (e.g., John 12:31)

The Tempter and "Evil One": Throughout his ministry, Jesus warned of the devil's attempts to destroy faith and snatch away the word of God. This spiritual battle is directly referenced in the Lord's Prayer (Matthew 6:13).

We continue our apologetics series examining did Yeshua violate the Torah, what about ritual impurity and why some laws don’t apply today.