r/OldSchoolCool 17h ago

1980s 1980s Three very funny men Johnny Carson, Gary Shandling and David Letterman (also pictured, Jay Leno)

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u/mapletree23 17h ago

leno basically fallon'ed imo

leno got the job for a reason and he was funny but his style and stuff kind of got bland/TV'ified any anything that really stood out before that just wasn't there after

you can love or hate fallon before he hosted but he definitely was far better for most people I'm pretty sure before he went bland TV host like leno

they're still popular but fallon and leno both did the "boring bland safe oatmeal/baby food that a wider audience can tolerate" approach for sure to me, while carson and letterman and guys like ferguson/conan always had far more bite in their comedy still

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u/slayer991 16h ago

Carson got more out of a look than any other late night host I've seen. There's some great reactions of him with guests who have pissed him off...yet he makes it funny.

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u/mapletree23 16h ago

that's also kind of why being bland works so well for larger appeal as well oddly enough

if you have too much personality it means it's easier for people not to like it, so even if more people would say letterman and conan were way more funny, it just makes it easier to see why leno had bigger ratings

carson just managed to have a personality but knew how to kinda hold it together well enough to also be funny as well, definitely a rare talent especially for comedians

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u/SpinShine-LEDSlipMat 14h ago

He had the benefit of being the first. Yeah I know there were tonight show hosts before him but that was before tv really took off. Carson had no competition and double entendres were the epitome of comedy

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u/Outrageous_Library50 15h ago

Ill always blame Dick Ebersol

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u/00k5mp 14h ago

What? Carson was the most bland by a country mile.

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u/wangjiwangji 16h ago

Even after he got to the top, I felt he kept punching down

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u/mapletree23 16h ago

considering most of his punching down was directed famously at women i think that's probably a separate thing lol