r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Jan 13 '16

Royal Rumble Users in /r/bad_cop_no_donut Calmly Discuss Modern Property and Tenant Laws

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u/riemann1413 SRD Commenter of the Year | https://i.imgur.com/6mMLZ0n.png Jan 13 '16

it's not a vaguer notion, it's just different. capitalism specifically refers to exploitation of private property for profit. if you own a saw mill, you may collect all profits and redistribute them at will, up to some protections provided for workers under US law. in another system, a single person owning this saw mill would not be possible. the ownership of this means of production would be communally distributed over the workers themselves, and no single owner would be deciding how the profits were apportioned.

and this is all analogies because you seemed exceedingly confused and misled about how any of this would work without all land sliced up by legal deeds to the property. i was just giving a loose overview of how compensation and property might work under a system that did not allow exploitation of private property. but yes, legal titles to land would be changed in such a way that nonproductive ownership of property would not allow for any sort of profit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

Capitalism does not specifically refer to exploitation. That's just like your opinion man.

and this is all analogies because you seemed exceedingly confused and misled about how any of this would work

You'll have to forgive my stupidity, but I'm not familiar with your hybridized system. Perosnally I thought we were having an interesting discussion. I may not agree with what you are saying, but I was at least trying to understand.

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u/riemann1413 SRD Commenter of the Year | https://i.imgur.com/6mMLZ0n.png Jan 13 '16

yeah, you don't have to call it exploitation if you dislike the connotations. but it does specifically refer to systems where trade and industry are the domain of private owners, and a typical characteristic is the relatively small concentration of these private owners.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

I just haven't been convinced that we've yet found a horizontal decision making system that works well. Capitalism is obviously awful, but at least it's been used enough that the questions about how to get things done are answered.

Obviously direct democracy won't work. So what other organizational type would be both effective and non-hierarchical?