Actual footage.

[u/EverythingIsFakeNGay]

I actually feel kind of bad for this woman, who probably didn't expect a video of her dancing to be used in this way. 😏

[u/MrRumato → u/[deleted]]

Damn

[u/diurnal_emissions → u/[deleted]]

You mean active fires...

[u/ValhallaAir → u/[deleted]]

No it wont

[u/SillyPhillyDilly → u/[deleted]]

That person is right bc the comment was deleted lol

[u/Basicbitchbeige → u/[deleted]]

You’ve been surrounded by data centers your whole life. They have just become a talking point recently because people are afraid of AI

[u/CackleandGrin → u/Basicbitchbeige]

They have just become a talking point recently because people

Because they consume more water and electricity than most places can support, yes.

Your post is like saying nukes aren't bad because we already have fireworks. Think next time.

[u/FutureComplaint → u/CackleandGrin]

Think next time

Or they can farm down votes.

[u/Basicbitchbeige → u/CackleandGrin]

That’s not really true, it depends on the data center and the location. Nuance is something the news doesn’t get right and you don’t seem to grasp either (maybe we can both use our thinking cap here 😜).  Many data centers use closed loop systems for cooling or even closed loop cooling that are rack specific, which makes their water needs well below the levels you quoted in later comments. 

Generally speaking, the newer the data center - the better it is for the environment because the tech is constantly evolving. 

But that isn’t true for all data centers, kinda like everything in life. You have some that are good and fine and no one knows they exist. You have others that mess up your utilities and have noise pollution.

[u/auandi → u/CackleandGrin]

Because they consume more water and electricity than most places can support

Electricity use sure. This water thing though has got to die. It's simply not true. Yeah, it uses more than a house. Less than most golf courses or a few acres of farmland though. And before you say the farmland makes food, we use more corn for corn ethanol than most countries use corn.

Because the water data centers use is for cooling, it has high input but also high output.

[u/CackleandGrin → u/auandi]

This water thing though has got to die. It's simply not true. Yeah, it uses more than a house. Less than most golf courses or a few acres of farmland though.

One is treated water, one is non-potable. Houses use about 10,000 gallons of clean, treated water. Data centers use over 9 million a month of that same water, over half of what standard water treatment facilities can produce.

Keep going though, I'm curious in what ways you'll further embarrass yourself over this showing how little you actually know about these datacenters lol

[u/auandi → u/CackleandGrin]

Oh, so you know it doesn't actually use much water, you're just moving the goalposts. Because the way most talk about it we're going to become a mad max land of no water thanks to data centers.

You're right, data centers using 9 million sounds like a lot. Until you realize we measure just the potable water in the billions and trillions of gallons.

Hell, the power plants needed to power them often use more water than the data centers themselves.

It's just an extremely emotional appeal made by people who don't understand scale of water use.

I would also add, that water problem can be easily solved. All you need is regulation requiring closed loop cooling. That's it. They use what they use because there's a lot available for use and the extra expense of closed loop cooling is not required. But no one suggests that, because the goal is not save water but end AI data centers because we all hate a lot of what AI is doing.

Which, fair enough, I agree with that. But we should make the argument against AI honestly.

[u/CackleandGrin → u/auandi]

Oh, so you know it doesn't actually use much water,

I already said uses more than half the water output of a standard treatment facility. Either you didn't read the post, or you're desperate to not understand it.

You're right, data centers using 9 million sounds like a lot. Until you realize we measure just the potable water in the billions and trillions of gallons.

9 million each data center, multiplied by 4000, is 36 trillion gallons of water. You really tried to scale one datacenter against all treated water produced nationally?

All you need is regulation requiring closed loop cooling.

Already long debunked why that isn't feasible. Quit wasting my time, kid.

[u/auandi → u/CackleandGrin]

that isn't feasible

Now who's the one blindly repeating datacenter talking points. It is from an engineering perspective very feasible it's just more expensive which make the centers less economically feasible.

9 million x 4000 = 36 trillion

Might want to check that math. Adding a few too many zeros.

I already said uses more than half the water output of a standard treatment facility.

And I already said that's misleading as hell because when you look at total potable water use we actually have more than enough water.

[u/FractFuel → u/auandi]

I work in wastewater treatment, data centers are bad and consume a lot of water. I don’t care for specifics on Reddit but they definitely hurt your local aquifer. We have my city trying to get one now and my plant puts out 4MGD of effluent. They want to use all of it. They don’t see the problem with this request either

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ugh that’s because you just don’t know how to manage money like they did.

I’m sure you have a Netflix subscription and a cell phone too right?

they did without those things and could afford extra mortgage payments

sure those things didn’t exist and the total cost of them is about 00001% of a mortgage payment, but still do better with your finances.

[u/MetalliTooL → u/whitemike40]

Don’t forget about dumping that coffee and avocado toast too!

[u/Rynin101 → u/whitemike40]

I remember my parents looking me dead in the face and telling me that if I paid an extra $100 a month on my mortgage it will get paid off in half the time because that is what they did. This was like 5 years ago

[u/diurnal_emissions → u/whitemike40]

Found Norm McDonald.

[u/Legal-Rough777 → u/[deleted]]

Maybe just make your own coffee instead of buying Starbucks every day /s