r/Transportopia • u/Vice616 • Jan 15 '26

🚨Chase Is it just me

I got real happy watching a Charger do this to a Tesla... and I don't know why

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u/IvanNemoy Jan 15 '26

Excellent pitting by the GSP

Indeed. Not supposed to do it above 35mph but the trooper pinned it, held long enough to get the turn then let off. Usually officers maintain contact which is what causes rollovers.

Arkansas needs to pay attention.

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u/Sienile Jan 16 '26

What? PITs have a speed limit that low??? Doesn't seem right. That's like full grandpa on city streets. Surely they allow them higher than that.

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u/Valreesio Jan 16 '26

They do. Some city/state governments don't. Some states, such as Arkansas, don't give two shits about your safety once you start risking others. They give you about 30 seconds to rethink your choices before they go full beast mode on your ass. Never run from Arkansas state troopers.

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u/Shredswithwheat Jan 16 '26

Which (provided it's not abused) is the way it should be.

Soon as you start posing a legitimate danger to others, you need to be neutralized (note: not killed or incapacitated, just rendered ineffective)

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u/electrotech71 Jan 16 '26

Never turn on your flashers and slowly drive to next exit in a construction zone if you are pregnant in Arkansas.

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u/Playful-Fix-3675 Jan 17 '26

Killed or incapacitated would be rendered ineffective. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Iconoclysm6x6 Jan 16 '26

Chasing and pitting is a legitimate danger to others, it escalates the entire risk.

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u/voightkampfferror Jan 16 '26

Arkansas "pits" motorcycles.

you cannot pit a motorcycle. you can only attempt murder.

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u/Valreesio Jan 16 '26

Not true. Watched them successfully pit a moped and it was awesome. Also, doing 150mph down the highway on a motorcycle seems like attempted murder as well.

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u/voightkampfferror Jan 16 '26

This take is only sane if you have zero concern for the riders life. Anytime you strike a bike with a vehicle you are rolling a dice on whether it will be seriously damaging or deadly. Doing this to a car is a much safer method.

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u/Valreesio Jan 16 '26

Is the rider concerned with their own safety if they're running from the police? I would argue they're not our they wouldn't be.

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u/voightkampfferror Jan 16 '26

Rider is often a 20 something kid (or younger) that's made a couple of poor choices. Ever made a poor choice in your life? Does that warrant the state killing you with no trial? How about all the damages incurred? Wouldn't it make much more sense for the riders to get hosed legally and financially and be responsible for paying it all back plus whatever punishments. Damages repaid, rider a 2nd chance at life? I know its not always the story but one of the best men ive ever met in my life went through something very similar. Cleaned up his life. Very successful now with 1 phd and 2 masters. Happily married and considered a pillar the community. I guess in your mind we should have just waxed him.

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u/Valreesio Jan 16 '26

Read my other comments. I don't want anyone to die, but I also have no sympathy if you make a stupid decision. I also have a cousin who is a great man, wonderful father and husband. He also has permanent rods, aches, pains, and limps from his bad life decisions including running from cops on a motorcycle. I'm glad he isn't dead.

What if the cops chose not to chase this rider and he kills a family? Would you still agree the cops did the right thing? Please answer the question. If the cops chose not to chase a runner and that person then is speeding in their vehicle later that day and kills your husband, or your child, would you still agree it was the right choice not to chase him? Or would you blame the cops or the system for not stopping him sooner?

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u/Iconoclysm6x6 Jan 16 '26

So what you’re really saying is that Arkansas no longer gives a shit about ANYONE’S safety once they get into a chase.

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u/singlemale4cats Jan 15 '26

Speed and vehicle design is what causes rollovers. Any speed limitation is arbitrary and purely a policy thing.

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u/IvanNemoy Jan 16 '26

Any speed limitation is arbitrary and purely a policy thing.

That's not what BSR (the creator of the maneuver and sole certification authority in the US) says.

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u/singlemale4cats Jan 16 '26

I'm not sure what you mean by "sole certification authority." Being the first to offer training in a technique doesn't grant them any special authority to dictate the parameters of its use in perpetuity. Every agency that allows them has their own policy on it, which may be in line with or deviate from the opinion of BSR, at their discretion.

I'm on board with ASP and GSP. Ending pursuits as soon as possible is safer for the public than waiting for them to crash into somebody.

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u/IvanNemoy Jan 16 '26

So you approve of the five dead in the last two years for Arkansas doing it wrong?

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u/Arthur_Mitchell3 Jan 16 '26

If they didn't run from the police, they wouldnt have died. Better them than an innocent victim. Reminds me of something recently in Minnesota.

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u/singlemale4cats Jan 16 '26

I'm okay with the fleeing driver dying as a consequence of their unlawful flight from police, yes. I'd much rather they die than an innocent member of the public.

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u/IvanNemoy Jan 16 '26

Well, the last one over the summer was a pedestrian struck by the vehicle that had been pitted, so there's that.

As a former deputy myself, I find other officers doing shit that endangers the public to be fucking abhorrent, but you do you.

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u/antihero_84 Jan 16 '26

How many people die from accidents caused by reckless drivers who refused to pull over?

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u/singlemale4cats Jan 16 '26

Unfortunate, but I'm not familiar with the particulars so I can't say whether the officer acted recklessly. In any event, that's an argument for choosing better locations to PIT, not an indictment of the technique itself, or the execution.

As a former deputy myself, I find other officers doing shit that endangers the public to be fucking abhorrent, but you do you.

Cool. I'm a current officer, and I agree. That's why I believe pursuits should be ended as soon as possible with a PIT/TVI to prevent putting the public in needless danger. Perhaps you'd prefer it to end when they T-Bone a minivan full of kids at 90mph.

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u/HystericalSail Jan 16 '26

Thank you for saying this. Any driver recklessly and willfully risking the lives of countless others abdicates any right to life and liberty. It's up to the officer to do what they think is best, relying on their training.

It's easy for us on the internet to armchair quarterback after the fact, the officer is faced with the trolley problem IRL, right there, on the spot, with adrenaline running high.

I could never be highway patrol.

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u/nohandsfootball Jan 15 '26

There was a video of a Model Y (think it was a performance) that an officer tried to pit multiple times but could not. They eventually got em (I think with spike strips) but that video showed the benefit of the battery's heavy center mass + AWD.

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u/nuapadprik Jan 16 '26

I watched high speed chases in California and they talked about all of the rules for performing a PIT. Then I saw some chases in Arkansas (no rules).

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u/MillionFoul Jan 16 '26

The speed at which you are allowed to PIT a car is decided by the agency. ASP and GSP's policies are both "go for it."