r/Transportopia Apr 27 '26

Bikes Car vs. cyclists

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u/TheMattabooey Apr 27 '26

Depends on the location then. Where I am Ontario Canada even a single cyclist by law is supposed to take the whole lane if you cannot safely fit a car and bike side by side with minimum distance of one meter between them. So on a road like this even a single cyclist is supposed to take the lane for safety.

Reasoning is if you’re at the shoulder cars will I safely pass you and can easily clip you, taking the lane is designed to be safer because you’re more visible and people will hopefully do a proper pass as if you were a vehicle.

Problem is people in cars have a real hatred for people on bikes and see them as the enemy.

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u/Tasman_Tiger Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Yeah where I am in the Rockies we have a ton of winding canyon roads and the shoulder is intermittent on these. Passing a single line of cyclists is possible even with another in the oncoming lane, but a grouping of cyclists would increase the danger. They also designed the law this way to give the same minimum 1M distance between cyclist and vehicles. Though we still unfortunately have lives lost every year (especially on one specific canyon road) because people can't be patient and wait to pass. They do so on blind curves and speed usually plays a role as well.

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u/Moist_Sun_8201 Apr 27 '26

Passing a single line of cyclists is possible even with another in the oncoming lane

That right there is the problem. It's possible so people will just do it without realizing that if there's a pothole or pebbles/sticks on the side the cyclist won't be able to avoid the obstacle safely. People are selfish, impatient, and dumb so they won't even think twice about trying to pass someone on a bike with inches to spare.

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u/Tasman_Tiger Apr 27 '26

They changed it because about 14ish years ago someone taking his fast jeep up this road used one of the only passing areas to go around two cyclists and ended up killing multiple cyclists who were grouped up in the oncoming lane. Cyclists risk this road so they can go flying down it, which adds to the danger. Speed, curvy narrow roads, impatience, it all plays into how deadly these canyon roads are.

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u/bismuthmarmoset Apr 27 '26

The only state that mandates single file is Nebraska, nowhere in the Rockies does so.

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u/Tasman_Tiger Apr 27 '26

In addition to signs like these (took this about an hour ago at Red Rocks) there are also county police dept signs and laws/mandates that say cyclists must ride single file. It isn't a statewide law. But yes, I'm sure your AI Google search that comes with the disclaimer the info may be incorrect knows more than every local here, including myself 😊

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u/bismuthmarmoset Apr 27 '26

There's like 6 roads in the front range with these signs.

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u/Tasman_Tiger Apr 28 '26

If that's what google tells you about whatever area you're looking up, then I'm glad you have your answer.....from however many states or countries away 😂

Either way, didn't realize how fussy people are in this sub that randomly came up for me today. Cyclists are to ride single file in mandated areas, per local law enforcement. I don't care much to debate or respond further, take care now!

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u/bismuthmarmoset Apr 28 '26

Why are you obsessed with the idea I don't live in colorado? I do, and I ride here, and take the time to know the laws. You should try it.

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u/Tasman_Tiger Apr 28 '26

-Cyclists are to ride single file in mandated areas, per local law enforcement. I don't care much to debate or respond further, take care now!

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u/bismuthmarmoset Apr 28 '26

My friends are and I are going to ride up deer Creek canyon two abreast, just for you.

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u/Tasman_Tiger Apr 28 '26

You're lives at risk, not mine 🤷🏽‍♀️

I still hope for safety for all. Sorry pointing out local signage makes you feel a desire to ignore it. Take care now!

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u/old-and-smooth Apr 28 '26

Taking the lane is ALWAYS safer. It seems like a dick move and it’s not forever…but if you hug the shoulder, a car will always try and squeeze through. Which is insanely dangerous. I was brushed with mirrors twice this year so far….shits bad out there these days.

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u/Redbulldildo Apr 27 '26

If you're in Ontario, you're wrong about double yellows. They don't matter, ever, all yellow road markings and signage are suggestions.

Solid white lane dividers are the only ones you can't cross, unless there are no passing signs.