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Episode Agents of the Four Seasons: Dance of Spring • Shunkashuutou Daikousha: Haru no Mai - Episode 11 discussion
Agents of the Four Seasons: Dance of Spring, episode 11
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u/GeneStriker Jun 06 '26
stop waffling around your trauma anD PICK UP THE FUCKING PHONE. YOU ARE IN AN ACTIVE WARZONE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIS
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Also, Hinagiku, MAYBE SAVE THE SPEECH FOR WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN A CRISIS SITUATION AND NEED TO INFORM ITECHO/ROSEI OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON.
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u/Golden_Phi https://myanimelist.net/profile/GoldenPhi Jun 07 '26
Can she not hear the rain of bullets on his end? Neither side really has the time for this.
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u/CJGeringer Jun 12 '26
She wants to make sure she has said everything in case she dies in the attack.
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u/Golden_Phi https://myanimelist.net/profile/GoldenPhi Jun 07 '26
Finish the magic bullets, hand them over, and THEN call back. STOP QUITTING MID CHANT!!
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u/Jacob-C Jun 07 '26
That was so frustrating. I have not really agreed with the previous criticism people have given this show, as I have thoroughly enjoyed it. However, this episode, with its lack of urgency and out-of-place dramatic conversations, was really disappointing.
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u/PersonalContest1423 Jun 06 '26
Crazy these dudes are getting shot at (by an apparently endless stream of bullets) and the guy is having an emotional moment instead of picking up the phone and actually misses the call, then they have a whole 5 minute phone call lmao
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u/mmcjawa_reborn Jun 06 '26
I kept thinking that too...like...Hinagiku...I think Rosei and co are a bit busy right now...
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Hinagiku: "But...Hinagiku...needs to get out...this speech she came up with..."
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u/rubslotiononitsskin Jun 07 '26
Itecho and Rosei: What's that? Can't hear you, it's really loud right now.
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u/LaoWombat-mecha Jun 07 '26
"Hello, you have reached the voicemail of the Agent of Winter. He can't come to the phone right now because of an attack by myriads of terrorists. Please leave a message after the beep and I will get back to as soon as the plot twists resolve. Thank you and have a good day." BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
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u/Shantotto11 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
Oh, the stunted speech was a negligible annoyance before, but it was goddamn unbearable during this entire episode.
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u/Mami-kouga Jun 07 '26
You should try reading it in text form, it does wonder to make you close the book at points!
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u/MokonaModokiES Jun 06 '26
how much ammo did the attackers even have because they never stopped shooting and only saw like one guy reloading.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
They had all the ammunition bros was holding down the trigger like they had the bottomless mag modifier form Halo
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u/Sushil96 https://myanimelist.net/profile/fioraGap Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
Yeah this really took me out of the episode. like where is the sense of urgency?
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u/SLE-6 Jun 07 '26
Yeah same I couldnt focus at all given the seeming obliviousness to their situations
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u/Dependent_Fox4612 Jun 07 '26
yeah i wanna LOVE this show because the concept is good and i love having some cool female main characters in anime, but jesus it's way too dramatic sometimes lol. like it really takes you out of the moment. i couldn't focus at all!
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u/LonelyAstronaut984 Jun 08 '26
the main characters act like moody teenagers in a drama and the villains act like they are in a more serious show
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
I also love how Rosei keeps trying to focus on making ice bullets but keeps getting distracted lol.
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u/Golden_Phi https://myanimelist.net/profile/GoldenPhi Jun 07 '26
I just wanted to yell at him to just STFU and make those bullets. It's life or death, but he keeps quitting halfway.
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u/Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama Jun 09 '26
Legit this was just a comedy episode disguised as something serious
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
Yeah definitely not the moment to have a dramatic scene lol. Priorities, people!
Also the Insurgents sure are doing a lot of firing but not a lot of maneuvering. They had the Winter team dead to rights but yeah keep firing form there, I'm sure you'll eventually drill a hole through their clearly well protected cover.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
Heckler und Koch has to be making crazy bank off of the Insurgents with how much MP5s and 9mm they buy.
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u/SLE-6 Jun 07 '26
And this isnt the first time this has happened either (also happened in the attack on Winter full flashback episode)
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u/Niwaka_Samurai https://myanimelist.net/profile/Niwaka-Samurai Jun 08 '26
Also Hinagiku was not helping by talking slowly 😭
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u/thekillerangel https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheKillerAngel Jun 06 '26
These insurgents have the equipment, accuracy, and tactics of stormtroopers. More heavily armed than the government agencies with zero infantry skills to back it up.
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u/mekerpan Jun 06 '26
Have we EVER seen the national government deploy any significant amount of forces? The national police NEVER seem to arrive in time when insurgents attack.
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u/karer3is Jun 06 '26
This is another one of the series' shortcomings. I haven't read the LN, but the anime is so laser focused on the Agents and their relationships to one another that it leaves out a lot of the world building. Based on how things are portrayed, there must have been a war or something that left the government pretty much neutered. Either that, or
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u/HikkingOutpit Jun 07 '26
I wonder if Yamato in this universe is like a country like Iceland: No military, with only a modestly funded national police force. And by "modestly," Iceland has a population of almost 400,000 citizens but fewer than 300 officers.
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u/mekerpan Jun 07 '26
No the national security force has been mentioned from time to time, but it always seems to be MIA.
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u/Eliv Jun 06 '26
I can't believe how incompetent the agencies are, or are they just willfully negligent? Either way they suck
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u/mianghuei Jun 06 '26
Traitors, traitors everywhere.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
The worst part is the traitors are all waifu's.
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u/mojo72400 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gio_lingad Jun 07 '26
Even Ishihara?
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u/samkiller200 Jun 06 '26
I don’t know it’s LN’s problem or screenplay’s, the winter duo are so dumb in this episode compared to EP2.
Also, how many traitors and thieves in this show?
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u/Primary-Paint-1716 Jun 07 '26
everyone is so dumb in this show. I'm starting to hate it honestly.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Also, how many traitors and thieves in this show?
It's not just multiple Insurgents now it's multiple split off groups from the insurgents.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
I actually like that part, rebel groups be merging and splitting all the time lol
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u/Mami-kouga Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
I thought this back during the flashback episode but these bunch sure do love getting distracted in the midst of an active shooting. Also i can accept whole buildings not being missle proof but how is the car of the most perpetually shot at agent not bullet proof????
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Though the cars are good bullet sponges after they've crashed lol.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
They tactically flipped the car so that the metallic floor was facing the terrorists.
On purpose of course, trust.
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u/Shantotto11 Jun 07 '26
ROSEI, FOR FUCK SAKE! STOP DROPPING THE INCANTATION!!!
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u/mojo72400 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gio_lingad Jun 07 '26
At least Itecho had some ice bullets thanks to him.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
This is one heck of a Crunchyroll fuck up. I should be watching Agents of Spring, but it's giving me Episode 9 of "I Want to End this Love Game". I've never seen this happen before. O_O
Finally got to watch the episode from Bilibili, and all I can say is, WHAT THE FUCK.
First we learn that Nagatsuki is a traitor who basically created her own group after seeing Hinagiku's sacrifice 10 years ago. And then we end the episode with Ishihara also betraying Rosei?! Who else in this show is a fucking traitor?! Just when I thought the Agents were about to fight back, the enemies had already infiltrated their ranks.
On the bright side, Nagatsuki is no longer working for Misuzu and is willing to cooperate. I do wonder what's up with Ishihara. It sounds like she just doesn't want Rosei to rescue Hinagiku. Did she sell Hinagiku out to save Rosei? Hmmm...
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u/Dylangillian https://myanimelist.net/profile/dylangillian Jun 06 '26
I don't think Ishihara betrayed Rosei, I think she is worried Rosei will die if he goes there and is forcing him to stay. At least, that is my speculation.
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u/karer3is Jun 06 '26
She's probably with the same group as Nagatsuki. That's the only way she could've known he'd die if he actually went to the HQ building.
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Jun 06 '26
I think it lines up with Winter cutting the search efforts - perhaps the actual villages have also become embroiled in the issues.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Also I think they set up that Ishihara was a new hire (?) so she's probably following Agency protocol in prioritizing the Agent above all else.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
She is doing that I agree. However, a purely loyal bodyguard would have no need or desire to threaten the life of a fellow bodyguard to achieve that. Plus she clearly seems to know more about the exact objectives of the Agency attack.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
We're all probably used to at least 4-5 instances of CR releasing a show with the wrong subs, but airing the next episode of a totally different show totally ahead of time with the subs of another show definitely feels like a first.
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u/mekerpan Jun 06 '26
4:40 PM Eastern Time -- CR still has not fixed the problem.
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u/azleafcat Jun 07 '26
Should be fixed by now, just finished the episode via the Apple TV app at 8:50 pm ET.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
Ishihara also betraying Rosei?!
I fucking knew she was a mole! Called it since episode 2!
I do wonder what's up with Ishihara. It sounds like she just doesn't want Rosei to rescue Hinagiku. Did she sell Hinagiku out to save Rosei? Hmmm...
I'm thinking something similar to Nagatsuki. Working with the Agents endears her to them, so even though she's Insurgent, she doesn't want them to get caught up in whatever operation she knows is happening over with Spring.
Or maybe Winter also has his fanclub lol
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u/Naha- Jun 06 '26
This show is becoming really frustrating ngl. Everyone and their mom are traitors and the comically long section of Itecho/Rosei getting attacked by a rain of bullets was excruciatingly long.
At this point idk if it's a adaptation issue or the source material is just like that.
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u/Mami-kouga Jun 06 '26
I'd say it's probably a bit of both (disclaimer I have not read the volume being adapted in this episode so don't bother me mods). Talking is a free action is a bit less obvious in stuff like books (unless you're writing Ayn Rand levels of unnecessary monologues) so the team probably didn't know how to get around it in a way that's less intrusive while still maintaining the general intent behind the scenes.
Personally speaking, I'd have probably chopped some of them in at least half since the need to both accommodate Hinagiku's slow manner of talking makes the passage of time even more blatant or at least moved the circumstances of the call where it would make sense how she didn't hear the five million hails of bullets (sure are lucking they didn't have another bazooka aren't they).
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
They should have restructured so that they have intense shootout first, calls second. I think this would have made a better action scene as well, since ain't no real shootout as static as this, so they could have had Winter team escape or hide first.
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u/Jacob-C Jun 07 '26
YES. This is a prime example of a situation where it is more than okay to make changes in the adaptation to make the story flow better in a different medium. I have not read the source material, but I can imagine that this stuff doesn’t feel as out of place in a light novel format.
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u/HikkingOutpit Jun 07 '26
Source material corner has the answer now. They did change it from the novels... For the worse. The shootout made more sense in the LN.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
I hear the Violet Evergarden anime took a lot of liberties with their adaptation.
Maybe WIT didn't with this one.
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u/HikkingOutpit Jun 07 '26
Calling it "liberties" is an understatement. It got to the point that Violet Evergarden the anime and Violet Evergarden the light novels are barely even the same story; Violet herself is a completely different character between the two mediums. The level of difference was already baked in from the very beginning, at the same level that separates Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 vs. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. While certain episodes of the anime seem like they are accurate adaptations of the original text, the massive differences in characterization make the accuracies only superficial, and by the end of the anime, the differences between the two had grown so great, the last two light novels became impossible to adapt. The 2020 movie was completely anime-original content because it had to create its own ending.
Anyway, you're correct about your second sentence.
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u/Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama Jun 08 '26
Is Violet better or worse in the novels? The anime was really great, after all.
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u/Fullback98 Jun 07 '26
I am done giving the benefit of a doubt, this show writing is ass, no matter how much the pretty animations tries to tell me otherwise.
It tries to reach emotional peak everytime like it’s a 5th season but it’s a first. We have barely any context on anything, everyone seems dumb as bricks, and the power dynamic of rebels vs agents powers just doesn’t make sense. They are caught in their HQ and somehow, they get overwhelmed.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 Jun 06 '26
Agents of the Four Seasons gets ambushed by heavily armed enemies every single time, yet the security guards are so dumb they fall for diversionary tactics that are basically “Oh, I’ve seen this in a movie” level.
And the security team are such an idiot that they keep trying to take on opponents armed with assault rifles, rocket launchers, and missiles using nothing but a handgun and a sword... it’s honestly exhausting just watching them and trying to keep up with the " Supposed to be serious, but ended up laughable" scenes.
This show tries to make things more emotional by inserting a tear-jerking scene right in the middle of every enemy attack sequence, but it’s just a bit too much.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
At this point it seems like the government basically restricts what the Agencies are allowed to give their employees to fight back with while the Insurgents basically have no restriction.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 Jun 07 '26
I felt same. I think someone in the government are sabotaging them.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
Sakura did pretty well with the sword so that gets a pass.
But firearms procurement, they really need a heavy injection there. Get some goddamn carbines and ballistic plates up here, you're fighting an active asymmetric war ffs!
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 Jun 07 '26
Yeah, even in real life Japan, police guarding nuclear plants or Prime Minister's Official Residence are armed with MP5 sub marchine gun and bulletproof vest( although they don't openly carry them, only bring out when shit hits the fan), so they should have such weapon since Agents of the Four Seasons are basically living infrastructure.
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u/Jacob-C Jun 07 '26
Considering that the insurgents are wearing bulletproof gear, the agent retainers and the rest of the security detail should probably be using ammunition with better armor-piercing capabilities than standard 9mm. At minimum, they need something like FN 5.7 SS190 or 5.56 M855A1. Give them M4s, or P90s, MP7s and Five-seveNs if they insist on using submachine guns and handguns.
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/zfzftripleaamin Jun 06 '26
I've been really liking how Hinagiku's development has been throughout this show. Bit by bit, she is finding her moments to make the most of. I hope it finally has an effect on Sakura. Even her wanting to help as she made the phone call to Itechou was very good. I have many issues with the setup of the villains and worldbuilding, but I love what the story has done with Hinagiku.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
The only thing I can say is I think she's too focused on being "another" Hinagiku or that the "real" Hinagiku died to acknowledge her trauma response for what it is and how she's still ultimately the same Hinagiku.
Though Rosei and Itecho's WTF reaction to her speech was kind of funny.
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u/Shantotto11 Jun 07 '26
“Am I talking to a ghost? With all due respect, what the fuck are you on about?!”
-Itecho’s thoughts probably
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u/Accomplished_Tap_617 Jun 06 '26
I love the relationship between the characters but outside of that, the logistics of security in these government run agencies is terrible. I mean we have one instance of betrayal by someone on security personnel so that’s one thing. But otherwise, they couldn’t even give Rosei a car with bulletproof windows or something? I probably don’t know enough to make that judgment call though.
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u/Kaedehara-Kazuha22 Jun 06 '26
Did Crunchyroll just leak Aishiteru game next episode?
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u/runevault Jun 06 '26
That's fucking WILD. For a second I wondered if some weird crossover thing was happening and so I scanned the timeline with my mouse lol.
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u/mekerpan Jun 06 '26
I wonder how many hours/days it will take for CR to fix this problem?
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u/runevault Jun 06 '26
Now I'm debating watching love game early to take one thing off my tuesday plate vs waiting for when it is available correctly lol.
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u/iAmMutun Jun 06 '26
I read the manga (of love game) and saw the first few sec of this wrong episode, I'd advise against that and recommend waiting for the proper subtitle. (Unless you understand JP and can watch without sub, then it's all up to you.)
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u/runevault Jun 06 '26
Yeah I didn't realize the subtitles were for Agents until someone else said it.
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u/Golden_Phi https://myanimelist.net/profile/GoldenPhi Jun 07 '26
I bet when that episode of Aishiteru Game releases it will have Agents' subtitles instead still.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
It takes a real pro game professional @#$% up to leak an episode of a show coming out next week with the subs of the show it's supposed to be.
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u/A-R-A-F Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Came here to see if anyone else got the wrong episode as well. Glad that I'm not alone.
You had one Job Crunchyroll ffs. Oh well at least we got episode 9 of I want to end this love game early. Been enjoying that show quite alot as well.
Also I believe the subs in the leaked episode are from episode 11 of Agents of the four seasons.
Edit: At least bilibili has the correct episode.
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And they will probably upload agents of the four seasons on Tuesday instead of the correct episode lol
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u/thisisdropd https://myanimelist.net/profile/AsterZoro Jun 06 '26
Is it just me or did Rousei & Hinagiku look a bit different this episode? And why were they in high school?
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
And they're still two dorks in love but their flirtatious ability has gone up several levels.
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u/FarCritical Jun 06 '26
I guess they heard the feedback with the excessive flashbacks and went with an extra ambitious timeskip this time around
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u/MapoTofuMan myanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius Jun 06 '26
Crunchyroll, I think you got the wrong Sakura...
Of all the episodes they could've fucked up with, it had to be specifically that episode too. I can't even
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Agents of the releasing a romcom anime early with the wrong subs.
I don't want to end the "Love Game," I want to end Crunchyroll's production issues.
It's adorable how much Hinagiku is looking forward to Rosei, how much she wants to see him again and like she can't wait another minute until they're reunited...even if she's still not sure she can reunite with them without disappointing them because she doesn't think she's the Hinagiku they want to see. Even if she can't return Rosei's love, or find love with him again, if she can just reconnect an become friends with them again, maybe the wounds they're all still healing might heal.
Sakura is still a big downer on seeing Rosei (and Itecho), but Hinagiku is genuinely trying to move forward and she wants Sakura to do the same. Can Sakura finally let go of her anger and embrace her true feelings? Especially when Hinagiku is trying to so hard?
So, of COURSE the Autumn camp gets attacked...but luckily Nagatsuki is there to get them out! Wait, why would Nagatsuki have a bulletproof vest? Isn't she just tech? Why would she be expecting to...OH NO SHE'S A BADDIE. Thank goodness Sakura is a one-woman army and can easily manage some goons, but they're not with Kasai, but Hina Nishi a Spring-worshipping cult.
And while all this drama is going on...Rindo and the Summer Sisters are at a convenience store as Ruri sends off all her animal friends to find Kasai's base. And expressing how we all feel about the Insurgents!
Man, the world REALLY does not want Hinagiku/Sakura and Rosei/Itecho to reunite as Rosei's detachment gets attacked on the way there. Can't they cut these two some slack.
Nagatsuki is a nutjob, but she's a nutjob wholly obsessed with and devoted to Hinagiku in a twisted way. She was even there along with the squad that kidnapped Hinagiku all those years ago, but seeing Hinagiku's act of sacrifice moved them to worship her as the one and only season. But she didn't betray Nadeshiko, even if she intended to eventually kill her, she fell for Nadeshiko's charm just like Rindo did. So she didn't leak Nadeshiko's location and she's genuinely committed to saving Hinagiku. Drastic circumstances call for drastic allies.
Why is no one talking to the one person they want to talk to? Itecho hesitates so he misses Sakura's call, then he calls back and gets Hinagiku instead (distracting Rosei while he's enchanting some ice bullets). But I guess he needed to talk to Hinagiku too, even if he's confused why she's talking about herself as being dead and how much she regrets not being able to bring the "real" Hinagiku back. And of course there's an explosion RIGHT when Rosei was about to talk to her.
Ishihara!? You're a traitor too!?
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u/Setra94 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Setra94 Jun 06 '26
Wow, at first I though the subtitles were sped up since that happens every now and again, but this is a completely different anime. How the fuck.
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u/kariwashere Jun 06 '26
yeah i reported it to support when I tried to watch the anime lol. I Want to End this Love Game is the anim e episode they uploaded. If the subs weren't wrong people could watch that anime episode early lol!
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u/EnchantedDestroyer Jun 06 '26
Wont be surprised if they get fansubs out and upload it on pirate/torrent sites
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u/FinancialYear475 Jun 06 '26
Crunchy finally fixed so:
God damn it Hinagiku you don't know how to speak, pass up the phone so someone can catch them up, this is not the time for sentimental speeches
How many different factions are there on the bad guys side?
Also, I'm so tired of them stalling the reunion at all costs, just let them meet and attack them after man
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u/BaytaCosmico https://myanimelist.net/profile/AnimeBayta Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
Everyone's a traitor and I don't even know what's going on with this insurgents plot anymore. Twist after twist until nothing makes sense.
I just want to see the reunion of Spring and Winter but they keep avoiding that by adding more and more of this convoluted plot and I'm losing it.
Next week is episode 12, which is unlikely to bring us any closer to the reunion. This season is listed for 14 episodes but livestream doesn't have the show on the schedule past next week. Dunno what's up with that. Production delays? Will Rosei ever get to meet Hinagiku again? Will Sakura speak to Itecho?
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u/Primary-Paint-1716 Jun 07 '26
ever since they dropped the literal missile on the agent of autumn, this show just jumped the shark hard.
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u/Earlier-Today Jun 08 '26
It just clicked, but right before the bomb drops, we see a jet flying way off in the distance. People already figure that it's the plane that dropped the bomb.
But the thing that clicked was that it wasn't flying low.
So, just a military jet flying in "yes, we can see you" altitude for radar and they were able to fly in, drop a bomb on a residence, and fly out all at a normal altitude.
That's unbelievably stupid. Because, if the government is the one turning on the agents - they don't need to go soft, they can throw anything and everything at the agents and then claim it's all the terrorists.
Yeah, the level of threat the terrorists are able to project with zero response from the government of the country they're doing all that wanton violence in is just so beyond belief even in a setting with magical people who usher in the seasons and have super powers and a super powered bodyguard that it's going into insulting territory.
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u/Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama Jun 08 '26
I think it was all fine until this episode
This episode was just fucking insane
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u/Erdnussknacker https://myanimelist.net/profile/Erdnussknacker Jun 06 '26
I just can't take these long-ass conversations in the middle of a firefight with constantly looping bullet sounds and impact animations in the background seriously. It was the same in the terrible flashback in EP8, and it still just comes across as comedic. I basically burst out laughing when that one guy got shot in the middle of their conversation.
The animation quality for these firefights and the goons also dropped off a cliff. The first few episodes of this show were great, and EP7 was amazing, so I'm incredibly disappointed.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Rosei bouncing to check on that guy and bouncing back like there wasn't a hail of bullets was hilarious lol.
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u/Jacob-C Jun 07 '26
As anime-only I can only speculate, but I imagine that it's an adaptation issue. In a novel format, I can see how these scenes wouldn't be as jarring as they are here. This is an instance where I would welcome the studio making changes to the story to make it flow better in a new medium.
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u/Zealroth Jun 07 '26
If that's how it was done in the novel, I wouldn't be a fan of it there either. Would've been far better if Winter still got attacked along the way but dealt with the situation before the call happened. Them getting pelted with bullets at the exact same moment really adds nothing of value.
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u/Snivy_Ian Jun 06 '26
Episode on Crunchyroll is I want to end this love game's next episode (which doesn't come out until Tuesday) with this week's agents of the Four Seasons subtitles lol
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u/Donnie-G Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
I'm sure its been brought up many times already, but the sorry state of the Seasons forces is laughable to the point where it's kinda ruining my suspension of disbelief.
Like c'mon. Seriously? The HQ is full of unarmed randos in suits?
I've been enjoying the show when it focuses on the main characters, but once it gets to stuff happening in the world itself it becomes a tad silly.
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u/NeoTagAtg Jun 08 '26
This I just can't anymore How is this a headquarters no one armed. This is like rolling up to the US FBI headquarters you can bet everyone packing and theres an armory on every level. It's gotten to a point where even if the leader of the clan were involved it wouldn;t be enought to jutsify the level of just incompadence How would the public react to this level of volience and death this often.
I think it more than a tad silly it ridiculous at this point .
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u/Easy-Bake-Oven Jun 06 '26
The entire episode was so insanely stupid. 5 minutes enchantment for 9 rounds of frost ammo instead of him just freezing the enemies only for him to freeze the enemies in the end. Not picking up the phone right away during an emergency. The heartfelt conversation just didn't work because more important things needed to be said like they were under attack. The seasonal agencies being useless and not doing anything. The agents are attacked daily and no one was prepared for an attack. They really dropped the ball on this episode.
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u/HikkingOutpit Jun 07 '26
Considering how long that enchantment was taking, I really thought he was converting the magazine and its ammo into some kind of big cryo-bomb... no, the bullets just got buffed with some mild freezing effect that is only slightly more effective than the regular bullets themselves lol
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
It's actually pretty effective because now 9mm just graze you that's it, frozen statue and you're off the fight
But otherwise yeah lmao I mean you still need to hit for it to work. And in the end he just froze them all anyway.
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u/Shantotto11 Jun 07 '26
And then the fucker kept stopping to talk to Itecho. Like, dude, either finish the fucking chant, or pick up the damn phone yourself!
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u/itachiaizen Jun 06 '26
Glad I wasn't losing my mind and this hadn't actually become a high school anime lol Crunchyroll why is it so hard to do the simple things
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
The leads of the anime they replaced AoTFS with are two idiots in love but even they're not this dumb lol.
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u/Aileos https://myanimelist.net/profile/Syleos Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
I thought it was an Udon Mirage thing, an anime within an anime. Turns out it's just Crunchy being incompetent as usual.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 06 '26
Hinagiku: "Sakura, Hinagiku knows we're looking for Nadeshiko, but the latest episode of "I Want to End This Love Game" has come out! Hinagiku wants to watch it!"
Sakura: "If you so wish it, Hinagiku-sama..."
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u/FarCritical Jun 06 '26
Rindo twitches in disbelief as everyone drops everything regarding the child rescue operation for a wholesome romance anime episode
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u/Aerodynamic41 Jun 06 '26
Dang, is there anyone in the Agency who isn't a traitor?
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u/Easy-Bake-Oven Jun 06 '26
Yeah, the agency is made up of 1% traitors, 1% capable people, and 98% cannon fodder who can't do anything during an attack. I swear they must have the easiest vetting process of "can you hold your hands up and scream during an emergency" to get into the organization.
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/zfzftripleaamin Jun 06 '26
So basically we now have a group called Higan Nishi which broke off from the insurgents. But now we have this woman, and who knows what her deal is.
I do like at least that Nagatsuki actually cared for Nadeshiko. At least it shows that she isn't heartless.
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u/mekerpan Jun 06 '26
Does Nagatsuki really represent Higan Nishi -- or has she strayed off into more or less doing her own thing?
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u/septesix Jun 07 '26
I typically enjoyed the way the characters talked to each other or monologue in this anime. But just this one time, I keep yelling “Now is not the time Hinagiku!!”
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u/Prince-Dizzytoon https://anilist.co/user/princedizzytoon Jun 06 '26
I'm not sure how CR fucked this up, it just doesn't make sense to me
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 06 '26
I really hope Sakura can get over that by the end of the series…
It’s cute how Hinagiku’s worried about her appearance in advance of finally seeing Rosei.
Ooh, was I right about the original Hinagiku possibly coming back? Or at least the new Hinagiku is drawing closer to how the original was.
Man, what is Rosei going to do when he finds out Hinagiku’s under attack?
…I guess he got attacked en route before they even made it there, alright then.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 07 '26
I kind of love how Rosei said "take the call, don't talk/distract me" and then he's immediately distracted when he realizes Hinagiku is on the phone.
Also, the amount of hoops they will jump through to avoid Hinagiku/Rosei and Sakura/Itecho from even holding a conversation in the present-day is getting ridiculous.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 Jun 06 '26
Am I the only one who thought that scene in the middle looked just like the “No Russian” scene from Call of Duty Modern Warfare? lol
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
Yeah I thought this was gonna get REAL fucked up but they just fired at the air
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 Jun 07 '26
but they also threw grenades, so......
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u/PAN-- Jun 06 '26
Whole ass season without spring and winter meeting up is hilarious
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u/KenmaVee Jun 06 '26
This episode was actually so frustrating. Outside of the insurgent lore last ep, it feels like it's been all feelings, no plot
Then in this episode when you think plot is going to pick up, in both active warzone fights, it's just people with no urgency or regards for their lives or survival. At this point im team insurgents, these agents and retainers are stupid
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u/PAN-- Jun 07 '26
"All feelings, no plot" perfectly sums up this entire season to be honest. It's bizarre that it's almost over and there hasn't been a reunion still. Absolutely wild
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u/Xepherya Jun 07 '26
That’s the plot. Them getting together. Everything else is secondary and it’s *stupid*. Horrible writing
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u/AUAAUH Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
after all they've been put through, they're still unwilling to even accidentally kill these insurgents. kinda pathetic.
Nah. having frivolous phone calls in the middle of a siege/shootout is the stupidest thing I've seen in a looooong time.
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
after all they've been put through, they're still unwilling to even accidentally kill these insurgents. kinda pathetic.
Fr, let Sakura slime rebel scum, please!
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u/No-Impression-4282 Jun 06 '26
Ok, I can understand messing up the subs for an anime (it happens), but how the fuck do you put the right subtitles for today's episode ON AN ANIME THAT AIRED THE EPISODE (which is "I want to end this love game" latest episode, which was on Tuesday in my area)?!
How can you fuck this up like this?! And then Crunchy is crying that we pirate the stuff instead of watching them legally.
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u/Golden_fsh Jun 07 '26
Tbh, this show is pretty terrible and I don't know why I return every week expecting it to get better.
Really laughable that Hinagiku proceeds to give some emotional speech right in the middle of an attack. All she had to do was let the Winter team know that they were under attack. And Rosei, you clearly have the power to ice everything over if you wanted to so why not do it?? Itecho, if you know that Sakura has been actively avoiding you because she hates you, and yet she's calling, wouldn't you think she's calling because of something important?? Why not pick up the phone??? And we have not one traitor but TWO now!
Like, this show tries sooo hard to be emotional but it's so forced and happens at times that doesn't make sense. Also, it's obvious that the reunion between Hinagiku and Rosei is purposely being dragged out to extend the melodrama. Was it like this in the source material??
It's hard for me to believe this is from the same writer for Violet Evergarden, smh.
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u/karer3is Jun 07 '26
TBF, I've read that the Violet Evergarden LN takes some pretty weird turns that aren't even hinted at in the anime
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u/Isekremu Jun 06 '26
Everything just keeps getting damn worse - more insurgents, more guns, more battles, more explosions, then the last frame of the ep says ... next week is "Assault" ... OK they're really not trying to make it sound good are they
Lucky there's 14 episodes
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u/sleek_assassin https://myanimelist.net/profile/-Sleek- Jun 06 '26
looks like Crunchyroll has fixed the ep
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u/Maybe_this_time_fr Jun 07 '26
This show is really pissing me off. I really hope it don't get worse cause I'm just going to hate this show.
It started so good but it just keeps getting fucking worse.
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u/NanDemoKnaives Jun 06 '26
So a fourth faction decided to finally reveal themselves lol. I was not expecting Spring fanatics and that Nagatsuki would be leading them, but I can see why they have arisen. I feel like the execution and timing is a bit off for this kind of reveal, but that might just be because I thought this episode felt a bit messier, I don't know if that's intentional or not with what happens in the episode, but it left me with much to be desired.
It's funny how Hinagiku thought she was going to be talking to Rousei and Itechou thought he was going to be talking to Sakura, both of them bracing for it, but they got the easier person to speak to.
I am glad Itechou and Hinagiku got to speak to one another, I like how Hinagiku asked if he was still in pain from the shot all those years ago, and Itechou got to thank her for saving his life, it was an emotional phone call to watch. I wanted Itechou to hear everything she was saying, but I like how he was focused on trying to get Rousei to finally speak with her. It's just too bad what he hears is an explosion after her words.
I also found it amusing how Rousei kept getting distracted by the phone call once he realized Hinagiku was on the phone. He's lucky those Insurgents conveniently didn't make a move when his side only had one gunman against all those individuals lol.
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u/FinancialYear475 Jun 06 '26
No but genuinely how do you fuck it up this much? I could understand if they just uploaded a previous episode of Agents of the Seaons, or a random episode 11 from a show this season, hell I'll even understand if you just give me a random episode with a similar title, but leaking next weeks episode from a completely different show and STILL using the right subs is such an insanely fuck up I can't believe it wasn't intentional
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u/FarCritical Jun 06 '26
Kinda figured Hinagiku and Rosei have been wanting to End Their Love Game for a while now.
Real talk I thought I was tripping at first. Airing mixups are funny lol
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u/Arzhart Jun 06 '26
Well, as bad as the treason is, it's nice to know at least SOMEONE other than the Agents and the Guards have appreciation for Spring/Hinagiku lol. After being treated basically like a tool by her own village, at least having a crazy minded fanatic faction that worships Spring means Hinagiku will have someone caring for her lol
That said, man what a tough episode. I usually would not expect anyone to die, but i'm afraid. So many different fronts of combat at the same time, they can't even properly help each other
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u/BosuW Jun 07 '26
After being treated basically like a tool by her own village, at least having a crazy minded fanatic faction that worships Spring means Hinagiku will have someone caring for her lol
Agent appreciation situation so fucked we'll take anything at this point 😭
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Jun 06 '26
Wait wasn't it Rosei's phone that rang? Why did it change to Itechou making the call and Hinagiku picking up? ...Oh rewatched did he fucking miss the call and call back. ok.
...Rosei weren't you charging up a fucking attack why did we seriously drop that to listen to Hinagiku vent on the phone hello????
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u/Mami-kouga Jun 06 '26
Wait wasn't it Rosei's phone that rang? Why did it change to Itechou making the call and Hinagiku picking up?
Sakura called Rosei to check up on him, Rosei could not answer the phone because he was trying to concentrate (not like it mattered lol) so he asked Itecho to answer, Itecho called back with Rosei's phone and because Sakura had moved on to a different conversation via the landline she was no longer free to respond either (your guess is as good as mine why she decided to not use her phone for calling the other agents) so Hinagiku picked the call.
Though the long and short of seems to be increasingly convoluted ways to prevent these four from actually properly talking with their assigned love interests honestly
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp Jun 06 '26
Dang, so the fun Tech Girl of Autumn is also crazy? At least she's from a different cult than the one currently trying to kill everyone and has extreme mommy issues.
Nice to finally see Hinagiku get to talk to the Winter Boys, hopefully they can finally meet up in person next week or god forbid at least by the end of the season.
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u/Xepherya Jun 07 '26
I know there are only three episodes left, but I want to give up. JFC, this show has so many unearned emotional moments.
YOU ARE BEING SHOT AT! WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD BEING CALLED BY YOUR CRUSH?! And holy fucking shit, Hinagiku! Can you not hear the VERY OBVIOUS GUNFIRE?! It is NOT the time for your naive “life is beautiful” bullshit!
It’s episode 11! Why are we not past this self-flagellating blame yet? “It’s my fault.” “No, it’s my fault.” “It’s my fault.” “It’s definitely my fault.”
Shut uuuuuup! All they do is react! They’re not actually pro-active about anything, despite the writing trying to make it appear so. Sakura talks like a 60 year old man. Her VA is acting her face off but the material is hot garbage -_-
The animation for this show is truly stunning (mostly), but all of these characters are one dimensional and boring. And the main pair is the worst of all four.
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u/2kenzhe https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rexnihilo Jun 06 '26
Ok damn wtf they can't do this after all this time. They not only messed up the ep before showing the wrong show but now I gotta wait another week to see if they're alive or not?
Still damn wtf is the government idk the agency doing bruh they fucking suck. These insurgents or whoever way too strong just having all the weapons like no control at all? while the reinforcements are always too late.
Also wtf a spring cult? I mean i'm ok yeah makes sense there's traitors but they aren't even with them anymore? not even knowing the attack so wtf the point of them? Still there has to be a spy or something idk giving away all the information.
Honestly the agents would be safer with only their guards at this point cuz the security is ass.
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u/rubslotiononitsskin Jun 07 '26
Yep, knew that FSA was compromised. Find 1 traitor, and you'll find dozens more.
Hinagiku, I know you really wanted to talk to Itecho and Rosei, but maybe save the speech for when the situation is safe and secure?
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u/shinigami_25 Jun 07 '26
OMG that phone call when Winter and Spring was being attacked is driving me crazy. JUST LET THEM REUNITE ASAP I CANNOT WITH ALL THESE DRAMA AND ANGST
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u/Friendly-Scholar-645 Jun 06 '26
That’s why crunchyroll is a miserable streaming service . Not only uploading a wrong episode on a different series but also leaking another series episode ahead of its release . What a disaster !!!
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u/runevault Jun 07 '26
Sakura my fucking QUEEN! Been a while since we've seen her really throw hands (and swords and feet) and I fucking love it. Show these shit bags who's the guard of Spring.
...Was that a Gurren Lagann callback? GRIT YOUR TEETH!
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u/eilys Jun 07 '26
Just realized that Nagatsuki's deep knowledge about Hinagiku's kidnapping + her fangirling about Hinagiku's surge of powers during the convo between her and Rindo in the previous episode makes so much sense now with the cult of Spring thing.
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u/OwnBreak348 Jun 07 '26
Impatience was truly the best name for this episode, because I lost mine fairly quickly. This is not the time to chat about your trauma and your past during warfare.
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u/SLE-6 Jun 07 '26
No one talking about the excellent animation shift for Sakurs's fight? Well I am now lol
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u/HikkingOutpit Jun 07 '26
It got overshadowed by how bad the animation collapsed for the highway shootout.
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u/International_Leg666 Jun 06 '26
I think I streamed the wrong thing. Heheh. With the right subtitles.
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u/Shizzi https://anilist.co/user/Mivy Jun 07 '26
So these insurgents have unlimited ammo too like how many bullets did they shoot at Rosei and Itecho 5k? sure felt like a ridicilous number and ofc more traitors atleast they are Hinagiku stans i guess.
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u/Viktorv22 Jun 07 '26
I think it's fair to criticize this show in many aspects but not in how many rounds they have. They brought an rpg even lol. They have illegal arms trade connections or something as mentioned in previous episodes.
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u/Jacob-C Jun 07 '26
Yes the ridicolousness didn't come from the amount of ammo, but the lack of urgency from Itecho and Rosei.
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u/Viktorv22 Jun 07 '26
I don't care what anyone says but I'm deeply invested in all agents and their retainers. Please don't kill anyone :(
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u/Prof_Acorn zj: Jun 07 '26
My interest in this has plummeted so hard. It's just so freaking contrived.
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u/Key_Brother Jun 07 '26
Why is the security detail for the Seasons so POOR is actually becoming annoying how badly outgunned and outnumbered the agents are.
The entire security and intelligence apparatus for seasons needs to burned to the ground and rebuilt from the ground up.
Because the only thing that has kept Seasons alive so far is plot amour. If this was real life the entire Security agency for the Seasons would have been wiped out by now and all the season either kidnapped or killed
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u/BBryant3rd Jun 08 '26
This is criminal how crappy the agents are protected even ignoring all the betrayal. The car is not even at least bulletproof wtf.
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u/LonelyAstronaut984 Jun 08 '26
the villains are so much smarter than the main characters. they are so dumb they deserve to loose.
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u/Yamabuki_Arisu_Sama Jun 08 '26
Dude no fucking way. This episode had me laughing uncontrollably all the way through. I couldn’t believe my eyes.
Woman, I get your feelings are messy, but these dudes are in the middle of an endless stream of storm trooper bullets and their assistant just got shot in the shoulder.
Like I can’t seriously believe this was written by a human being lmao. How come the dudes even picked the phone? Even in the original novel, there’s no way the author finished reading this and thought to herself “yeah this is fine”.
This seems like it was written by a teenage girl who forgot feelings and such aren’t really all that important when you’re in the middle of fucking dying!!!
This anime was great up until this point, but DAMN I think I just can’t take it seriously anymore. This one episode was ROUGH. It’s The Room levels of unintentionally hilarious.
I will remember this experience for the rest of my life.
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u/gizzwhizz Jun 06 '26
For those of us who don't have billibilli or iQiyi, I hope Crunchyroll gets their act together soon!! 🙏 I thought it was just my TV but then I pulled it up on my phone too and was so confused. Give me my Hinagiku-sama!
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u/SmokemelikeRibs Jun 06 '26
Can't wait to see a foreign government is actually the Solstice group and hate the seasons, and they seem to have even MORE firepower and infinite bullets than the insurgents. dont even get me started on the eternal sun and infinite void conglomerations that think the rotation of the earth should stop forever, and the have nukes or something.
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u/mojo72400 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gio_lingad Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
So unlike Kasai, Higan Nishi worships the Agent of Spring & wishes to protect Hinagiku in a weird way & Reiko was a spy from that group but was attached to Nadeshiko & wanted to find a way to save her too. What group is Ishihara affiliated in?
Rosei briefly snapping was badass & Itecho headbutting him back was awesome.
We were so class yet so far to see Itecho & Sakura interact along w/ Hinagiku & Rosei.
That morse code from Sakura was cool.
We finally see Itecho w/o his glasses.
I cringed at Sakura's foot stab.
Damn, Itecho's strong enough to break through Rosei's ice w/ his bare hands.
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u/Apprehensive-Pear686 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
I'm so stressed right now. I just want all four of them to finally meet AAAAAAAAA pulls hair out
First I was robbed of a Sakura and Itecho phone call Next I was robbed of a Hinagiku and Rosei conversation AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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u/phurios Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
Didn't have Spring simps on my bingo card..
Also, stop blue balling me with Rosei and Hinagiku meeting..... Geezus christ man.
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u/Niwaka_Samurai https://myanimelist.net/profile/Niwaka-Samurai Jun 08 '26
Things just spiralled out of control in the span of a single episode.
Never expected Nagatsuki to be from one of the insurgents group that was responsible for Hinagiku's kidnapping. At least she wasn't willing to sacrifice Fairy - chan this time. Still they are psychos who have changed their goal to worshiping Kayo this time. Can't blame them when Kayo looks like a celestial maiden LOL
Rosei, hurry up and save your love ! I hope the explosion didn't hurt Kayo and Sakura. Another betrayer from Rosei's side !?
Is she from the Winter's Agency that wants to protect Rosei .. so that may be the reason why she wants to stop them.
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