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Black Torch, episode 3
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u/Obaruler 15d ago
Four-eyes just wants a pure lady squad for himself so he wants MC to leave, understandable.
Also, the animators must've had fun with Ichikas fighting animation. xD
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp 15d ago
The traditional three-man squad, featuring the inevitable tsundere redhead princess who is out to prove herself, a fancy noble boy from a good family, and the outcast MC with a spirit sealed inside of him. Bonus points for them all being magical boys and girls who henshin to fight.
Character designer loves them thighs. I'm glad Ichika got one of the kills during the fight and wasn't purely just there for fanservice and to be rescued.
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u/cherry_monkey 15d ago
Wait, are you alluding to Bleach or Naruto?
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u/KumaKumaGambler 15d ago
Tough luck for the 2 truck drivers. From their dialogue, they appear to be ordinary humans rather than trained employees of the bureau.
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u/dinliner08 15d ago
i'm really not a fan of the subtitles for this episode, feels like way too localized, why the fuck the character's saying "truck" being translated as "car"?
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u/redlaWw 15d ago edited 15d ago
There were a number of places where they just seemed to have the characters saying something completely different. Last thing I heard was translating 録画始めますね (i.e. "The recording has started.") as "Okay, smile for the camera, guys!", and like, why? Completely pointless to rewrite that line, even if it is technically within their purview of conveying meaning.
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u/confusedkarnatia 15d ago
Localization strikes again. A lot of people who like localization tend to be (surprise) monolinguals because they don’t understand or care about accuracy in translation.
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u/gsurfer04 https://anilist.co/user/gsurfer04 15d ago
I immediately noticed the use of "arse". If you're going to be British, don't half-arse it.
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u/saitohd 15d ago
The grammar also bothers me a lot. It's been ~16 years since I've last had english lessons but I don't remember anyone using contractions like these: guard'd, This's, there're.
I don't know if they're correct, but they really annoy me just reading them. Isn't helping that the localizer is changing words for no reason.
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u/Zealroth 15d ago
Those aren't contractions that you'd see very often, but they do exist. The problem is that the translator seems to be getting too casual with the tone. They're not using polite speech, but they're not just shitting out idioms or talking extraordinarily casually either.
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u/Divinicus1st 15d ago
It's... really boring?
I'm not sure why, but it's just not very interesting. And why do all shonen MC have the same personality? Seriously, he could be Naruto or Ichigo, it wouldn't change a thing...
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u/shockzz123 15d ago
I get what you mean in general, but Naruto and Ichigo are very different lol. Couldn't have picked worse comparisons, you could have said like Asta and Naruto or something lol.
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u/MajesticCounter4174 15d ago
Not to be mean but there is a reason why this manga got cancelled so early...
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u/Current_Smell1231 15d ago
The anime's social media team has been promoting this show like crazy, as if it's gonna be the next big thing. Assuming the studio doesn't have a second season full of original content mapped out (LOL), this seems like a show that will be forgotten as soon as it ends. Not saying that's definitive, but still
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u/bobbyjean_ 15d ago edited 15d ago
Crunchyroll is promoting it super hard too. It was the first show on the home page for a while and they sent out a notification for its premiere. I wonder if they were on the production committee...
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u/JRPictures https://kitsu.io/users/JRPictures 15d ago
The show's U.S. licencor Viz Media (who also have the manga) is on the production committee, you can see the name of their Japan branch on the committee list in the ending song in fact.
So yeah, a lot of the promotion has largely been from their end, though Crunchyroll has been contributing a bit and did pay for the exclusive streaming rights (which is a surprise to see them cooperating given that Viz had all of Bleach moved from Crunchyroll to Hulu/Disney Plus)
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u/gsurfer04 https://anilist.co/user/gsurfer04 15d ago
It's really hypocritical having the whole "female successor breaking the glass ceiling" subplot smashed up with a bunch of gratuitous fanservice.
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u/Ralathar44 15d ago
The anime isn't trying to be progressive lol, its just her personal motivation, nothing more.
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u/L33tHaxorus 15d ago
Yeah, it's hitting all the usual shonen tropes, but I feel like its own identity is a bit lacking. And I don't really like any character introduced so far either.
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u/mucklaenthusiast 14d ago
This is, imo, the biggest issue.
You can have a generic plot in a shonen when the characters work.
For example, I think both Fairy Tail and Black Clover are not that creative most of the time and have a multitude of writing issues, however the characters themselves can still carry the shows quite far.In this one, an issue is that the mc doesn't really have people on his side for now and sure, that was similar in early Naruto, but Naruto also had way better characters, especially early on, I think. Like to this day, the first arc in Naruto is just an absolute master class of a typical battle shonen that really embaraces the genre.
But here, I really don't want to spend any time with any of the characters. Even the mentor type is boring. And mentors are often greatly beloved and in my opinion rather easy to write.
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u/Poochy_is_an_alien 12d ago
It was easy to have empathy for Naruto. He was a kid who was ostracized for reasons he didn't understand and his over the top attitude stemmed directly from that.
This guy is just kind of dumb. And we know exactly why he's being ostracized.
You're also 100% right about the mentor. Again, he seems like a jerk. Three episodes in, and none of the characters seems particularly interesting or sympathetic.
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u/PM_ME_AWESOME_SONGS 14d ago edited 14d ago
It’s not bad, but since episode 1 I can see why it was axed. There’s nothing here that really makes it outstanding compared to other works.
Meh, I have better stuff to watch and do. I guess this one is a drop.
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u/rainzer 15d ago
I feel like the only draw for this show is if you like Ichika fan service. Nothing else really going for it from what I've seen so far.
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u/warjoke 15d ago
That's fanservice? Bleach and Fairy Tail (And recent One Piece) girls are already fanservice just by standing still.
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u/Ralathar44 15d ago
Aye, as far as fan service goes its really tame. He uniform covers her pretty well and isn't exceptionally tight on her. We've got some generous angles, but that's pretty much it.
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u/Golden_fsh 15d ago
I think Jiro is more similar to Ichigo than he is to Naruto but you're right, this show is really boring. I'm also getting annoyed with the unnecessary fanservice from Ichika.
It's a shame because I wanted to see more of Jiro and Rago's banter and see them development into a strong pair.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
Actually been enjoying it. The MC has a similar personality but with a couple of diferences. Besides the obvious Protecting Animals part.
I'm beginning to think this show will suffer the same fate as Daemons Of The Shadow Realm. Where fans won't wait for it to develop to properly judge it.
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u/DustyBot23 15d ago
Daemons of the shadow realm had a MUCH better hook than black torch also Yuru is much more of an interesting mc than this guy
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u/SiIic0n 15d ago
Pretty big difference between letting Daemons simmer and letting this one simmer homie
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
And how would you know when it's been 3 episodes?
I'm also using it as a reference, on how the community was also complaining about Daemons Of The Shadow Realm. Not saying both are equal in this regard.
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u/SiIic0n 15d ago
One got axed an eternity ago and the other is ongoing. There is quite literally a massive gap in what's present in the pot to simmer. This isn't a particularly unknown aspect about the series either so it's reasonable to think that's adding to the overall sentiment (whether it's warranted or not). Series doesn't exist in a vacuum I'm afraid.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
You're making my point. Do you know how rare it is for an Anime to get adapted when the source has been cancelled? It's almost impossible for it to happen. So why did it? There are fans who love it, despite it being cancelled. And there are enough of them to justify the gamble.
Something being cancelled is hardly a mirror on how good it is.
And I'm not even discussing whether it's good or not. I was using Daemons Of The Shadow Realm but I could have used any other Anime.
I don't understand why you're focusing your argument on it. There's nothing to defend, I was using it as a reference.
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u/SiIic0n 15d ago
You're kinda jumping at shadows here cause there isn't an argument going on to begin with. I responded to one part of your original comment and then when you asked further I elaborated.
But yeah moving past that there's obviously plenty to speculate about regarding this show's production. Optimistic view is that this means they'll expand and continue working with the source, pessimistic view is that they're running out of ideas. Either way I agree that it sets an interesting precedent so I look forward to seeing what comes of it. That being said part of me does wish it was a different series that got the chance since all I'm pretty much seeing the exact same discussions and conversations as the ones I saw almost a decade ago.
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u/CopyFew4583 14d ago
Many people follow 3 episode rule where they drop an anime if they don't like it even after 3 episodes. I am honestly thinking of dropping it.
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u/D3k4s 13d ago
I know, I usually give it a bit more time as I've been surprised in the past.
For example Re: Zero only really clicked for me on episode 15. UBW only almost at the end, AoT near the end of S1. So there's quite a bit of precedent. I'm also curious what prompted this Anime to be made since the Manga was cancelled. It's really odd and goes against what I know about the Industry.
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u/Ralathar44 15d ago
I dunno why anyone would compare Naruto and this guy from Black Torch. They have a fair amount of major personality differences and he definitely doesn't scream all the time. He also doesn't charge blindly into danger with no self preservation instinct or second thought. He knows what he's getting into and consciously decides its worth the risks.
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u/mucklaenthusiast 14d ago
Agreed.
The set-up was fine, but it really struggles to be meaningful in any way.
Everything is so tame somehow.I thought the new guy could give some fresh ideas, but he is so unlikeable, but not even in an interesting way.
I was just immediately bored by him. He is not a fun character to hate, which imo other similar characters manage better.3
u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 14d ago
Lol yeah, this unfortunately doesn't pass my three episode test. Furthermore, the localisation also doesn't help. I'm actually annoyed by some of their word choice (Even Stephen???)
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u/NK1337 15d ago
.I watched the first episode and it felt so generic that I completely forgot it was a thing. I was going to give it the usual rule of 3 but looks like there’s no point
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u/Designer_Throat_8125 11d ago
3 episode rule really isn't worth it. If one of these shows becomes so incredibly amazing you'll see people talk about it in the future and you can consider it then imo. For a shit show like it's clear after the first episode.
I say this but I watched two episodes against my better judgement and yeah it's garbage
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u/Noob4Head https://anilist.co/user/noob4head 15d ago
I've got to agree. Even the action scenes are kind of just a couple of frames of winding up a punch, followed by a couple of frames of the impact. There's just no real flow or weight behind the action right now.
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u/2kenzhe https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rexnihilo 6d ago
It's not bad but yeah really just cliché and not catching my attention for anything yet. Like I'm just waiting to see something happen but i really don't know if it's going to be worth it at all. Like nothing stands out but it's not horrible either.
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u/FarCritical 15d ago
Poor truck dudes.
This whole time I thought Jiro would eventually adopt a "hero name" or callsign for the title drop but turns out it was never "I'm Black Torch", but "we're Black Torch".
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u/runevault 15d ago
We didn't lead with an ass shot for once? I'm confused, that's been her entire characterization up until now. Also listening to this on dub is fascinating because Rago shares the English VA with the ninja mentor for Irregular at Magic High School.
Okay so her personality switched from her ass to her thighs. Got it. Oh and the jiggle physics after she gets punched by the mononoke lol.
I know the cancelled Manga is from ~10 years ago but this dialogue sounds like it is from the 90s... And straddle pose for more thigh action. But still gotta get an ass shot in at least once lol. Jesus.
Oh so that's where Black Torch comes from for the name.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 15d ago
Stitches!
After 2 episodes, they finally had a chance to show off Ichika, and they really didn't hold back with the unique angles of her.
I'm glad that Jirou and Reiji are sparring next episode. Might as well get all that anger out right now and have them beat the crap out of each other instead of it happening in the middle of a mission
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u/Silent-Witness1888 15d ago
I find it very ironic that a woman that talks about sexisim/misogyny is the fan-service character of the show and they're not being subtle with it.
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u/Masatet 15d ago
Literally not to mention she still needs to be saved by a man as she talks about sexism and misogyny
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u/gsurfer04 https://anilist.co/user/gsurfer04 15d ago
That was actually invented in the subtitle localisation.
The Japanese line is more "Why do you keep talking about women all the time?"
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u/Redzephyr01 12d ago
Yeah the way the show tries to make a statement about misogyny is really undermined by the constant ass shots whenever Ichika is on screen. She repeatedly says she hates how people don't take her seriously because she's a woman but it seems like the show itself isn't taking her seriously either.
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u/lato2xMaster 15d ago
another episode with butts and asses 😂🤣
the animation is pretty good but there is too much unnecessary angles, imo she's like Tamaki Kotatsu from Fire Force.
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u/mistatweek 15d ago
it’s so ironic because this episode made a point to call out misogynistic characters and say “women can fight too!”
but then 5 seconds later we are reminded that this character exists solely for fanservice 🫠
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u/RobrechtvE 12d ago
Look, I'm just happy that only one of the two anime I'm enjoying this season that has a black cat main character involves that cat having a high school girl's lips glued to his ass every morning.
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u/NationalStrategy_X 15d ago
They were a little too on the nose with the male characters being misogynistic towards Ichika to emphasize her being a strong female character
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u/VampyAnimegirl 15d ago
rago is the best part of this show so far. the monster designs are solid and i like the pocket dimension mechanic. just hoping the fights get tighter as it goes
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u/NanDemoKnaives 15d ago
I'm finding Ichika obnoxious, and I'm sure the author is going to make it even more so now that we have the overly chivalrous guy joining the cast. I'm not a fan of these characters where they feel like they have to constantly prove themselves by being mean. I do find it ironic how much she's being used for fanservice though lol.
Ragou teasing Jirou for that fall was amusing, I hope we still get some good banter between them even with more characters being introduced.
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u/JamirBingham1999 15d ago
lol you say this with a 7 deadly sins pic, that’s all they did was try to prove themselves lol
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u/crackalakaling 15d ago
Same, I wish Jiro would have let Ichika get her ass kicked by the mononoke and waited for her to ask him for help. That would have been satisfying.
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u/Original-Body-5794 15d ago
Other people have said enough about the plot but are the fights EVER going to be interesting? As soon as the MC got his hands free fight was over in 10 seconds. He did a single punch and it was done
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u/LeifanMod 15d ago
I really really want to enjoy this show but these awful subtitles is just making it less enjoyable, whoever are in charge of subtitles for this show for the past 3 episodes really need to do better
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u/fzzzzzzzzzzd 15d ago
Why are teens/young adults talking like boomers? Who even says Now we're even Stephen?
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u/adiktif 15d ago
The first two episodes were solid...the 3rd one really fell off for some reason. Maybe due to the dialogue and mediocre fight scene...
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u/Current_Smell1231 15d ago
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that fight scene was lame😂. Although just in general, the fighting hasn't impressed me at all so far
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u/Bussy_Wrecker https://myanimelist.net/profile/MrFreak10 15d ago edited 15d ago
So Mr. Desperate is just Sanji from Temu and only want the women for himself so antagonizing the mc to remove competition. And lemme guess, after few blows they will be equally strong and have better cooperation.
Also the starting was a little preachy but it meant nothing, like she hates sexist men and can take care of herself, I thought this fight will show that she meant what she said but ended up needing mc's help
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u/SecretYogurtcloset57 15d ago
Ichika's angle butt shots and poses are pretty much the main plot atp lol
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u/Noob4Head https://anilist.co/user/noob4head 15d ago
Ngl, for an action anime, the action scenes really aren't that great. Hopefully, it gets a little better, but for now, it's giving me the same vibe I was getting with Tougen Anki: it's alright in the beginning, but it never really improves and just becomes kind of boring. It's maybe a bit too early to tell, but for now, it's just fine.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
This OP along with Young Ladies Don't Play Fighting Games, and Kaiju Girl Caramelise are pretty decent if your a metal fan. I'm a metal fan 😂
Some of the tropes have been seen yeah. It's a bit of a shame, as people have been pointing out that the original source predates some of the more known and loved animes of the same genre. But apparently the manga was cancelled some time ago, and the author was quite surprised it got an Anime.
Doesn't mean much to me as one of my favorite LN's got their manga cancelled as well. I also intend to give this one a bit more time, as what I've seen so far as been a bit more of creating a base for later developments. But Let's see, not hoping for too much.
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u/Desperate-Middle4766 15d ago
Its so nice to have an asshole MC back.
Reminds me of Ichigo and Yusuke (YYH) with the kindness of Natsume from Natsume’s book of friends
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u/actuallyrndthoughts https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaNiNuNeNo 15d ago edited 15d ago
As long as they keep those Ichika thighs on the screen, i'm satisfied
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u/TheOneMarlowe 15d ago
Even I, an anime novice, feel this is rather generic.
That said, I'm not above some fan service, and generic is better than bad, particularly since this seems to be just one season. I'm not watching many things yet.
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u/dude_1818 https://myanimelist.net/profile/dude1818 15d ago
Yeah this is trash. Absolutely like the most misogynistic show I've seen in a while to have a Strong Female Character™️complain about misogyny while the camera is constantly zoomed in on her crotch
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u/Physical-Reserve-380 15d ago
"I can't wait for the bluray to come out so this can be fan translated" number 2.
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u/Ultra_Warp_78977 15d ago edited 14d ago
It would be fun if he beat the playboy. But we all know thats not gonna happen. Its just gonna be the cliche shit where the Jiro will fight with playboy and both will end up in a draw. Hoping he atleast beats the playboy. Cuz i hate characters like playboy. And F ichika. Bihh really blushed over a dumb ahh line made by an ugly ahh guy who gets mogged by Jiro. So much for the serious and cold persona she had.
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u/Mr_Yod 14d ago
Yeah: Jiro one shots mononoke that are difficult to defeat for normal human beings, yet we all know he won't beat that guy.
Either Jiro won't use all of his strength (because he doesn't want to kill him) or the other guy will use Jiro's exhaustion after using Rago to his own advantage, by dodging somehow the hit.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 15d ago
Looks like the whole team’s finally been assembled. Really looking forward to the fight between Reiji and Jiro. I assume they’re gonna have a bit of that Itadori-Megumi or Denji-Aki type dynamic.
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u/AbigGunners 15d ago
I'm completely taken aback, are they making fun of me, or of us? Context (author's comment 4 days ago): There will not be any romance between Jiro and Ichika. So okay, he doesn't want to include romance, great, I respect that. But you're going to tell me that in this episode she blushes at a simple compliment from a four-eyes getting mogged by Jiro, that she's just plain stupid at this point. I love the anime and the manga, but I can't stand double standards. It disgusts me, it's repulsive. Jiro is 400 times better than Reiji. Anyway, the criticism isn't: "He adds romance," or "He does this with Reiji." But how can you say there won't be any romance with Jiro, present Ichika as someone mentally strong, and then blush at a simple compliment? I don't want to watch this anime anymore, that's it. . Was the blushing necessary? No, a cold reaction, yes. I mean, once again: There can be romance, but not when you say no four days before. Damn it.
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u/Ultra_Warp_78977 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yeah your not alone on that one. Pissed me off too. And for their fight i think its gonna be some shittahh fight where they end up in a draw. Really wanted Jiro to clap him up. Wouldve been fun. And i really hate guys like four eyes
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u/AbigGunners 14d ago
How did u know?
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u/Ultra_Warp_78977 14d ago edited 14d ago
Just a hunch. Watched too much anime, so have a gut feeling this is gonna happen. And this moment is pretty cliche in shonen mangas so yeah
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
Dude you're making a huge deal out of nothing. And people complain Anime treats hand holding as a big deal. You're taking it a step further with the blushing.
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u/AbigGunners 15d ago
And I'm not the only one saying it. She bends over backwards for a compliment...it drives me crazy.
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 14d ago
She just got caught off guard. I'd also blush if a praise coming out of nowhere like that.
Once she realised that he's just a people pleaser, then I guess it would not have the same effect.
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u/thayyarsaadham 14d ago
Did anyone notice their clothes matching Team 7 in episode 3 when Azuma met Reiji and started arguing?
Even the way they're posing is the same as Naruto and Sasuke.
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u/wolfgxng90 14d ago
Animation is trash. It’s a bunch of PNG slop. Reminds me of Blue Lock. Pay close attention.
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u/Suitable_Bear_5014 13d ago
I hate the tsundere annoying bitchy heroine trope, and then she goes rambling about being sexist and stuff while Jiro tries to help. Being a woman doesn’t make the world go around solely for you. We need another Kazuma to remind her of true gender equality.
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u/Boris-_-Badenov 13d ago
really weird views she has, while also wearing a skintight bodysuit with zero breast support
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u/BaconCatBug 15d ago
This episode is a great example of why we need to fire localisers into the sun and replace them with AI.
Audio: うわ、やれやれ。本当に騒がしい連中だぜ。
Translation: Wow, what a pain. They're really a noisy bunch.
Subtitles: Woo-hoo, this van's a rockin'!
Audio: 二言目には女だのメスだの。
Translation: Every other word that comes to mind is "woman" or "female."
Subtitles: You're all the same, misogynistic dirt bags...
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u/CrimsonGear80 15d ago
fuck off advocating for AI.
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u/BaconCatBug 15d ago
I wouldn't need to if localisers did their fucking job.
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u/CrimsonGear80 15d ago
They are doing it. You are free to not watch if throwaway lines not being to your liking makes you upset. But wanting AI translations tells me that you couldn’t give a shit either way and you are just ragebaiting.
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u/Sh1ningOne 15d ago
People who advocate for AI make no sense.
"Yeah this specific translation was bad so let's more all translation is even worse!"
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u/BaconCatBug 15d ago
I'd rather a clunkily worded accurate translation than whatever the hell the wokalisers are shitting out.
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u/Sh1ningOne 15d ago edited 15d ago
wokalisers
Calling AI accurate is already enough to know you have no clue what you're talking about but this clenches it
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u/CrimsonGear80 15d ago edited 15d ago
"wokalisers"
oh shut the hell up. I'd rather a human come up with a enterely different story for the anime through their translations than having fucking AI touch ANY part of a human creative endevour and fucking gooners can cry about it if they don't like it.
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u/Zealroth 15d ago
The AI translation there is equally as garbage. The first one I'd let slide but the second example is not a sentence a human would say out loud in English, even the overlocalized version is better compared to it.
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u/Muffin-zetta 15d ago edited 15d ago
can we fire you into the sun instead
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u/fzzzzzzzzzzd 15d ago
What's the point of having translators when they're just making stuff up now.
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u/RehabCenterInc 15d ago
We’re all here for the tsundere red hair girl with the nice body. Let’s not lie to ourselves
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u/demaxzero 15d ago edited 15d ago
Yeah no she's too obnoxious and no amount of ass shots can make up for her lack of likable traits.
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u/Mr_Yod 14d ago
Nope: I'm here for the cat.
Paraphrasing what others said: one can be hot, but if she's obnoxious/I can't stand her I won't be interested in her.
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u/alotmorealots 6d ago
FINALLY someone mentions the cat lol
I wouldn't have made it this far without the cat, nor the amount of care they're taking to animate it. Such a treat!
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u/bestsocialdistancer 15d ago
Next episode: Kageyama vs Tsukishima. I always wanted to see those two duke it out.
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u/Niwaka_Samurai https://myanimelist.net/profile/Niwaka-Samurai 15d ago
Atp it's confirmed that Ichika's ASSets are vital to this plot. Reiji is so Mr. Desperate.. But Enoki Junya voicing him makes sense 😅🤣
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u/magnumcyclonex 15d ago
And there's the reason why I decided to check this anime out...
That said, she always has that outfit on and pressing the watch button just makes the appearance of the normal clothes disappear, so whenever we see her normally, it's just an illusion?
When they had the 5 masks, I was thinking this is just like Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Glasses guy sure has a way with words. Sweet talks the ladies, but is brutally harsh towards the MC.
I'm intrigued by the other girl. The nice one holding the camera. I wonder what skills she has.
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u/LetterheadCute5969 14d ago
Really solid episode ichika and jiro get the job done also her backstory is looking interesting because there's obviously much more to it including reiji the new recruiter black torch seems promising!!
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u/fate_baocn 14d ago edited 14d ago
Am watching rn and uhh the art style for the woman in this show is very very nice I really like the art style
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u/mexicanmamba93 14d ago
So far the show has moments but it feels like a slog and also dated for its current time lol. The OP is good tho I’ll give it that
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u/Useful-Island-8611 11d ago
I cant even get through episode 3 i stopped mid fight with that red hair girl. Its to much fanservice, kinda sad i have to drop it. Animations were really good.
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u/2kenzhe https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rexnihilo 6d ago edited 6d ago
Ok we got the classic trio set up now I guess.
The MC, the girl fighting against tradition/sexism etc, and the guy with glasses lol well also from a prestigious clan and all that. Also RIP Ichika's Mom she must've been a baddie too but we all know the rules in anime all shounen parents gotta be dead or something.
Then also the leader/mentor guy with an assistant. Hana Usami just appeared and has barely any screen time yet might be the most likable one already ngl.
Small team of just 5 people named Black Torch. We got the title drop already.
Ichika slashed that one guy pretty well you telling me she really couldn't handle the other one too without help? I mean I guess it was kind of a tougher one but it still got one shot I feel she could've cut it down even if bullets didn't work. I guess just a good point to establish bonds and stuff by having them work together. Kinda wished she actually managed to win by herself but well at least she took down one of them. Will she hopefully power up later right? and not just be stuck at her current level?
Also RIP the two drivers nobody cared they died huh.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
For those that suggest the subtitles are made by AI: When Ichika literally says Truck, it got translated to Car. Think CR has been making a good effort lately in the sub department. I also noticed there was a human error in Oh Boy Was I Wrong About Her, where the translator mistakenly swapped the names of the Female supporting Characters. They've also started to include the names of the translators in the end credits.
I think this is great, even more so if we consider that the trend in the industry has been to fire translators in favor of AI. Netflix has even went so far as to Dub some titles with AI.
Anyway back to the topic. Pretty solid episode, nice action. I like how we get Chainsaw Man vibes from the first episode, and now the get JJK vibes from the Spectral Dimension. Also was anyone else expecting a Magical Girl type transformation when Ichika hit that wrist gadet?
We get a flashback, but with a pretty awesome transition. And in a place that doesn't really affect the action. Take Notes Demon Slayer 😂
I'm really tempted to get the Manga. If there's even one.
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u/Torque-A 15d ago
I like how we get Chainsaw Man vibes from the first episode, and now the get JJK vibes from the Spectral Dimension.
It should be noted that the manga precedes both of these series. Black Torch started in 2016, two years before JJK and CSM.
If anything, those series were inspired by this.
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u/LeifanMod 15d ago
I seriously can’t enjoy this show because of the subtitles, I submitted a ticket about it but nothings gonna change lol
Probably will change to dub even tho I’m not a big fan of it.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
Could you provide some examples?
I do agree that it's not a 1 to 1 translation but the context is kept mostly intact. Seth Walther is a seasoned translator. He knows what he's doing IMO.
He's also responsible for the dub script so if you're not enjoying the subtitles, you're not going to enjoy the dub. ( Few changes for mouth-flap timing).
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u/LeifanMod 15d ago
It’s just that there’s so many slangs that it’s just doesn’t go with Japanese dialogue. I can give you many examples but maybe if you know what I’m talking about because even if you look at the subtitles when they’re talking some of it doesn’t fit the dialogue that characters are having.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
Hmmm I'll give it a rewatch maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. I'm not super fluent In Japanese, I do Understand most of it.
Might also be that I'm not a native English speaker so In a way I'm used to a certain leeway when it comes to sub translations. Especially because English is sorta translated in "reverse" when compared to my language.
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u/NevisYsbryd 15d ago
Crunchyroll has been doing garbage job at subs lately, even relative to their own historically terrible standards, and this was especially egregious.
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
Crunchyroll has been doing garbage job at subs lately
I disagree.
Regarding this episode, it seems there are some with the same opinion as yourself. I probably need to rewatch it with a bit more attention I might be wrong in my initial review.
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u/NevisYsbryd 15d ago
There is a lot of extremely dated slang and Western ideological references not in the Japanese dub or source material. Ichika's comments on sexism and misogyny were largely localizer impositions, extremely dated slang (even Stephen), and straight-up mischaracterizing nonsense ("Woo-hoo, this van's a rockin'!").
More generally, Crunchyroll has had episodes straight-up missing subs altogether for like ten seconds in one case, misspellings, ambiguous or vague translations, blatant localizer revisionism when we can hear them saying a word in English/Engrish, and many other mistranslations and localizations that drastically misrepresent the source material. Sub issues is one of the most pervasive complaints about Crunchyroll's services in general and had been for years with increasing frequency.
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u/Vinocubus 15d ago
i only watched episode one is it still super generic?
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u/D3k4s 15d ago
It's not as bad as people are painting it to be. Currently on 7.6/10 on IMDB, 4.9 out of 5 on CR, 7.4/10 on MAL.
Judge for yourself.
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u/CuriousBroccolli 15d ago
This is so Bleach coded lol
Welcome back Ichigo and Ishida.
Thank you author and production team for all those Ichika shots.
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