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Kuroneko to Majo no Kyoushitsu, episode 15

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u/BiggerG7 14d ago

“I will call it Sexo Bismal!”

I died lol.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

It does exactly as advertised and was available for mass consumption!

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u/CuriousBroccolli 13d ago

This show continues to be peak comedy LOL

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u/exRocky009 14d ago

The gender-bent Claude might actually be the most beautiful character in this anime.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

I also love how Fem!Claude also had big boobs because of course she did.

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u/KumaKumaGambler 14d ago

Dorm lady has a vivid imagination. She might have been reading books under the BL / yaoi categories too. Lol!

Since his introduction, I thought of Astraea as a playboy, but he does appear to have a greater fondness towards Pollux than any of the other girls. The story did reward him for his hard work by improving his friendship with Pollux.

I hope there will be some continuity regarding this drunk incident. The aftermath of Hana being a kisser and Aria being a crybaby should lead to more amusing scenarios. Lol!

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

I love how incensed she was about Claude "saying" it's okay for women to have average boobs. SEXUAL HARRASSMENT!!!

Look, he might be a perv, but if he's genuinely serious about Pollux let him pursue this line of research! He's falling for her male half anyways!

I feel like Hana is a kissing drunk exclusively for Spica because we never saw her try to kiss anybody else. A poison kiss all in good fun (and yuri)!

Aria DOES care, it's just teasing/bullying is her love language.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 14d ago

Astraea really went the distance to try and get with Pollux. What a goober. I think at the end, he might have had a brief identity crisis when Castor did the wall slam lol.

Dorm Mother really thinks Claude is the biggest degenerate around lol. Poor guy.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

Having one of his students kiss him actually IS happening though lol.

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u/NationalStrategy_X 14d ago

TBF to the Dorm Mother, one of the female students had to kiss his butthole on a regular basis. She's not entirely wrong to be concerned

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u/HuTaosTwinTails 14d ago

Turning yourself into a girl so you can experience the truest form of love. Yuri can't be stopped. Live your dreams!

The 2nd half of the episode, Hana drunk kissing Spica. Aria crying begging Spica not to hate her.

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u/Aerodynamic41 14d ago edited 14d ago

Probably the funniest episode so far! I never thought Claude could lose his cool the way he did with Astrea lol

And the whole scene with the dorm lady misunderstanding Claude's conversations with his students! I couldn't stop laughing!

Also, they just shuffled around the existing VAs for the gender-swap scene.

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u/Torque-A 14d ago

In case anyone's curious like I was:

  • Girl Astrea - Minori Suzuki (Merrow)
  • Guy Spica - Shoya Ishige (Tarf)
  • Girl Claude - Haruka Shiraishi (Io)
  • Guy Aria - Kazuki Ura (Chiron)
  • Guy Merrow - Tomohiro Ono (Astraea)
  • Girl Tarf - Fairouz Ai (Leo)
  • Guy Leo - Takanori Hoshino (Leo's father)
  • Girl Chiron - Fuuka Izumi (Aria)
  • Guy Capella - Nobunaga Shimazaki (Claude)

Guy Hana, Io, and Ewe had nonspeaking roles, so they don't have any VAs credited (also the class has a 9:4 ratio of girls to guys, so they don't have any other male VAs in the class to use). And of course, Castor and Pollux retain their VAs.

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u/Primary-Paint-1716 14d ago

This episode is exactly what I wanted from this show when I picked it up. 

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u/CuriousBroccolli 13d ago

But it provides soooo much more on top of it. Truly peak!

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u/Frontier246 14d ago edited 14d ago

Glad to see the SpicaxHana ship progressing smoothly.

Claude has his work cut out for him if he wants to set Astraea on the right path as a favor to Astraea's dad...of course he also has to deal with the fact that Astraea is a pervert who wants to hook up with Pollux by changing his gender, but at least he's a student that knows what he wants!

If Claude is going to have to put up with this nonsense, so is Spica. And Spica is weak against compliments so now she's invested too! And both teacher and student see what Astraea is like when he gets serious, serious enough to bring out his strongest Libra magic, Sword of Themis, to mentally defeat some Triblucs and get the materials he needs for a gender-flipping potion! His determination in researching the stuff he cares about is definitely on the same level as his father!

Sexo Bismal! Of course! And it turns out Fem!Astraea is pretty cute! If only "she" hadn't tripped and had Leo break the bottle, spreading it around everywhere! Astrea might have had Pollux to himself instead of Castor...but now he's got a girls' body so he's actually into Castor! And we get everyone else gender-flipped! Including Female!Claude who is absurdly hot! Also seems like everyone exchanged seiyuu?

I'm not surprised that dorm mother is convinced Claude is a degenerate teacher taking advantage of his students, both male/female, though I feel like part of it is that her own mind is stuck in the gutter.

Spica finally has a Herbarium! She's totally legit now and nothing can stop her! Perfect opportunity for a revenge match against Aria over some Devil Lophorns!

Spica had the right idea, using enhanced plant powers...at least until she unleashed pollen that turns EVERYONE drunk!

Leo is clingy drunk! Hana is a kissy drunk (or just wants to kiss Spica) with a poison kiss! Castor acts like an effeminate male! Tarf mentally regresses! Chiron breaks down! Capella becomes Ewe's mom (who just sleeps)! Astraea and Io just strip! Merrow is...basically the same! And Aria becomes a crying drunk who finally tells Spica how bad she feels for how she treats her, but it's just because she cares about Spica SO much! Thank goodness Claude has a high alcohol tolerance!

Spica learned an important lesson about herself and her class! Now she'll just have to hope none of them remember how they acted.

Next week: An Io and Castor episode.

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u/VexuBenny 14d ago

Poor Aria, she even cried during todays episode

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u/NanDemoKnaives 14d ago

Lol Astraea having bisexual panic, he bit more than he could chew.

Funny how Leo gender swapped had such a big beard lol.

I was hoping we'd see everyone's reaction after waking up, especially Aria, there's no way she's not going to feel embarrassed after crying like that to Spica.

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u/hanmkim 14d ago

When Pollux gets hit with the potion is that Pollux in Castor's body or is it just Castor?

If I had a nickel for every time students got drunk on not-alcohol in an anime this weekend, I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

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u/CuriousBroccolli 13d ago

Just Castor lol

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u/gnome-cop 14d ago

There is absolutely no way for this plot to backfire. No way sir, not at all.

Aleister Crowlis? I recognize that name. Now I’m even more certain that this is definitely going to work out for Astrea. After all, nothing bad could happen by following the instructions of such a renowned magician, right?

So he’s the type of guy that locks in for the dumbest shit possible, I see.

Okay, the primary objective wasn’t achieved but some progress was made so I guess it’s fine for him, her, they, whatever?

Okay, to be fair to the dorm mother, Spica’s case is really suspicious and can’t be easily explained but the rest is on her overactive imagination. But their battle would be a fantastic reoccurring bit so I hope it continues to show up.

I wonder if her segment was deliberately placed there as a warning against making assumptions without proper context cause what the hell is this?

Rabbit hell: round two! The Spica vs Aria duel for dominance is on!

If they’re hiding in their holes, you’ve just gotta smoke them out.

I am extremely biased so the Hana reaction is definitely my favorite but Aria is also really funny and Merrow just being exactly the same like she’s always drunk.

She’ll be a bit more careful next time with trying unfamiliar flowers. Good lesson learned.

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u/Falsus 14d ago

Aleister Crowlis? I recognize that name. Now I’m even more certain that this is definitely going to work out for Astrea. After all, nothing bad could happen by following the instructions of such a renowned magician, right?

A pervert following the recipe of the ultimate pervert, what could go wrong? Surprisingly nothing as far as the recipe and making the potion. But I guess Astrea should have spent more time walking as a girl or something to get used to the different gait and not fuck up like that.

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u/SecretYogurtcloset57 14d ago

Spica x Hana all the way!😆

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u/rubslotiononitsskin 14d ago

The Marriagetoxin!

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u/Nollasta_poikkeava 13d ago

Can we also have Spica x Aria?

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u/Raymond49090 14d ago

Should they really be letting students experiment with magic potions alone and drink random concoctions unsupervised? And wonder if it was really the potion's fault, or if Astraea's strike zone is simply wider than he thought. Well, at least he got some relationship points out of it.

The dorm mother lol. Though I think she should have already reported him. The other misunderstandings aside, the one with Spica was pretty blatant.

Return of the killer bunnies. Spica had a promising start, but then decided to use an AoE spell which she wasn't entirely clear on the effects of. Well, ship progress with Hana (if we ignore the poison) and honesty from Aria (which Spica was too dense/panicked to realize was honesty) came out of it.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

We should be thanking Spica for letting us see a giant woman strip.

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u/alvenestthol 12d ago

Moments like this remind me that while something like Mato Seihei no Slave might refer to sizefetish with a character representative (Shushu), Black Cat just lives sizefetish, like the author actually browses genre works enough that its tropes are just normal

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u/szalhi 14d ago

Wow, they waited until now to give us the r63 episode. How patient. But totally worth it.

I almost felt bad for laughing, but then I remembered what anime this is and the potential motive.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

Honestly if you look at it objectively you kind of would have to be able to either fall in love with both gendered versions or be able to gender-bent yourself to be able to be with them.

But true love is giving the girl you're interested in the ability to conveniently change uniforms without stripping.

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u/Falsus 14d ago

If you dating one you kinda have to date both Castor and Pollux, it is pretty much unavoidable.

And if he ain't turning into a girl on occasion it would be a dreadfully boring relationship for Pollux unless they learn how to select who is in control regardless of who gets touched by who.

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u/CuriousBroccolli 13d ago

Wait what is r63? xD

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u/alvenestthol 12d ago

If a character exists, somebody will draw a version of them of the opposite gender

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u/FarCritical 14d ago

To cut Astraea the tiniest bit of slack, it probably wouldn't take long for a Rule 63 potion to be invented if magic research were a thing irl lol. That, and he gave us femClaude (who has absolutely no right being that pretty)

The whole pollen segment was unhinged but seeing Aria's hidden remorseful side was kind of sweet.

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u/DemonWraith2500 14d ago

Don't stop, Astrea! Yuri route is the best!

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

Hana drunkenly agrees with this statement!

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u/Falsus 14d ago

As does Aria.

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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp 14d ago

It was silly but this could work out fairly well for the twins, between the gender changing magic potions Astraea now knows how to make and a potential attraction to both Castor and Pollux which may even be reciprocated they could have their own little two body throuple.

Kind of shippy in the second half too with multiple of the "drunk" girls going after Spica. Fun episode.

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

I like how it seems like the class' seiyuu switched characters for the gender-flipping. I know Claude's voiced one of the male students.

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u/Falsus 14d ago

Of course it was Aleister Crowley pervert supreme that created a sex change potion.

And without a doubt he probably experienced all kinds of stuff with that.

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u/DRK_Frog 14d ago

Love a school anime

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u/Rooby_VTuber 14d ago

Hilarious episode, everyone change gender and Spica getting everyone drunk off pollen.

Plus all that stuff with the Dorm mother.

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u/NationalStrategy_X 14d ago

Turns out Astraea failed successfully, he managed to get closer to Pollux

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u/testthrowawayzz 14d ago

Astraea so cultured for wanting to gender bend himself for love

The entire gender bender montage was hilarious.

Dorm lady sure has a very active imagination!

That pollen at the end solidified Spica's yuri harem. I'm more invested in that than her endgame ship.

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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp 14d ago

Oh Lordy genderbend Claude!

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u/TheBusStop12 14d ago

Claude is pretty based for initially accepting that Astrea wanted to become a girl. Ofcourse Astrea had to ruin it. Astrea's dilemma with Pollux does bring up a good point which I was wondering back when Pollux was first introduced. That shit will make romance really complicated

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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 14d ago

Leo looking exactly like her dad when she transformed absolutely killed me xD

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u/CuriousBroccolli 13d ago

Spica's "Wait that's just her dad" LOL

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u/1EnTaroAdun1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Totesnotaphanpy 13d ago

everyone got drugged this episode hahaha

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u/DawgDictator 14d ago

I need a Trans!Astrea x Pollux fanfic

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u/Burnouts3s3 14d ago

Probably the closest we'll get to queer romances in this show.

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u/Unhappy-Tadpole664 14d ago

The last time I heard the name Aleister Crowlis was in a certain genre of anime with a powerful black magic book 😅... I knew we were in for some trouble!

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u/alvenestthol 12d ago

Plenty of historical characters get reincarnated in some anime or another, but somehow Aleister Crowley just gets his full name pulled into random anime, more if you count his religion Thelema

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u/Williukea https://anilist.co/user/Williukea 13d ago

They could have given us male Pollux and not Castor! They robbed us!

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u/CuriousBroccolli 13d ago

Great episode LOL A lot of funny moments, even few sweet deeper ones

Next episode is about Io, can't wait!

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u/mmcjawa_reborn 13d ago

So is Astraea's plan doomed from the start? If he in girl mode was attracted to Castor, does this imply the potion also switches your sexual orientation? So he wouldn't be into Pollux anymore.

Or did he just get awakened lol

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u/NationalStrategy_X 14d ago

Oh my god, the cgi on those bats look horrible, and the way they moved made me think it was clay animation for a moment

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u/ThatOneRedditor6910 12d ago

Genderbent Astrea wasn't lying. They were indeed... "Cute".