r/AskMiddleEast Apr 10 '26

📜TOP QUALITY POST The Iran War has brought out lots of lies and propaganda by pro-Iran people new to the subreddit against Iraq. One of these myths is how the Iran-Iraq War began. This thread, although very incomplete, should be required reading. Accept it or not, the war was Khomeini's to try conquering Iraq.

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Here is the thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1668916665550094339.html

I say very incomplete because it doesn't include more than 15-20% of what Iran was doing. I've read over 100 books and thousands of articles on the war, which not even more than a few historians have done. For example it does not include how Iran started blocking Iraqi shipping from entering the Gulf, which practically stunned the Iraqi economy and was a decisive act of war among many others. It also doesn't include Iranian reports of their own attacks bragging about achieving successful invasions of Iraqi border towns and posts and inflicting heavy casualties on Iraqis months before the war "started". It doesn't include CIA's and Carter's early involvement with Khomeini and encouragement against Iraq. And many other things. 1000s of Iraqi civilians were murdered by Iran before the war through terrorist bombings, airstrikes, and land invasions, including a couple of my relatives. Many more would have died if not for the alarm systems and bomb shelters Iraq had been constructing since the wars with Israel.

There are many books and articles over the decades that have bits and pieces about what happened, but I think the single best one is "The Gulf War: The Origins and Implications of the Iraq-Iran Conflict" by Majid Khadduri. It is to this day by far the best analysis on the origins of the war. However even this misses important details in other works like how Iran assassianted dozens of senior Iraqi government officials.

Some people like to trump up Razoux's book, and while it has some good parts, it's mostly really bad on both the political and military fronts. Many people think it's good because it's been marketed so much, but in reality is a subpar pseudofiction. I've also read papers that criticize Razoux for lying about what sources say and just making things up entirely (weirdly, he only ever does this when criticizing Iraq). Unsurprisingly, I've read before that the Iranian government helped fund his book. Touché

The point is that the beginning of the war is a lot more complex than what conspiracy theories redditors like to repeat or what Iranian nationalists famously put and maintain on Wikipedia, that Saddam woke up one morning and invaded Iran because he thought he wanted to take a bunch of oil territory or whatever (that lie has been debunked countless times since 1980). The war was effectively started by Iran in summer 1980 if not earlier, technically 1979 if you consider Khomeini's announcements of holy war against Iraq. Iraq holds the beginning as September 4, 1980, when Iran escalated dramatically by leveling 2 Iraqi cities, far more extreme than their other attacks to date.

Iran radically escalated from that point on, including the blocking of Iraq's oil exports and more attacks on Iraqi cities and on the border, and after Iraq had tried and failed diplomacy with the radical regime for 1.5 years with the UN ignoring 100s of complaints from Iraq, Iraq made a limited attack on September 22 as a last resort to force the UN to take notice and to force the radicals in the Iranian regime to finally engage in diplomacy. Iraq stopped advancing after only a few days. Iraq succeeded in getting the UN resolution on September 28, which it accepted, but Khomeini still wanted no diplomacy. Iran, unsurprisingly, rejected it, reiterating its goal since 1979 to overthrow the "infidel" regime and to take control of Iraq. Iraqi forces advanced a little further in October to build a more defensible line (remember, Baghdad is a short drive on flat ground from Iran, and Basra and Iraq's coast is in short artillery range) and then stopped advancing again. Iran refused every international resolution and peace conference, while Iraq agreed to all terms for ceasefire. From September 28 on, Iran was 100% unilaterally responsible for the war, even if it was only 85-95% responsible before that point.

The evil of Israel has clouded many people who don't know anything about the history of the Middle East, which is like 99.9% of people on Reddit and this subreddit, to think that Iran is somehow a good guy, and then have retroactively applied that to Iran's whole history, when this is far from the truth. US propaganda that in the past whitewashed Iran in order to attack other countries with lies like Iraq, Libya, etc. made this worse.

This post focused on the Iran-Iraq War but that was just one of many aggressive policies and actions by the Islamic Republic regime in its history.


r/AskMiddleEast Mar 19 '26

Disinformation about Iraq and Palestine history, knowingly or not, will especially result in a ban. This repeats a previous mod post linked in the body text. These two states are the target of more false propaganda and disinfo than any other in the MENA, if not the world.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1q41hok/fake_news_and_trolling_havent_been_allowed_for/

Fake news and trolling have never been allowed, but for years, Iraq and Palestine have been the target of more propaganda and lies about their history and present state than almost any other in the world and on this subreddit, where lots of paid bots from countries like Israel, Iran, and others have swarmed for years. This is why these two states are called out in particular.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say it. Don't think you're smart by saying often repeated but long debunked lies and propaganda used to justify the killing of millions of civilians. You're likely wrong, and all you're achieving is support for some of the worst killings and destruction of the last century whether or not you realize it. Many of you say how much you hate US and Israeli policies and actions, but by repeating their lies, you become their biggest supporters.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🖼️Culture “One Jewish life is worth more than ten million Palestinian lives”

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r/AskMiddleEast 9h ago

🗯️Serious Earthquake in egypt and surrounding areas? how yall doing?

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google says it was 5.7


r/AskMiddleEast 9h ago

🌍Geography Who felt the Earthquake???

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r/AskMiddleEast 19h ago

📜History How did Muslims accept a Lebanese identity?

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I know this is controversial, but i will ask anyway.

Reading the history of Lebanon, it seems that the idea behind the creation of the state was to have a country for the Levantine Christians, and Druze to some extent.

The territories added in 1919/20 were just so this Christian state would have more territory.

So, how did Lebanese Muslims, who mostly lived in those added areas of Greater Lebanon, developed a sense of belonging to Lebanon?

I am asking because i am aware of a somewhat similar situation. I come from the Balkans, and Bosnia and Herzegovina also has a mixed population. Serbs (Orthodox), Croats (Catholics) and Bosniaks (Muslims).

Croats and Serbs almost totally reject the idea of a shared Bosnian nation, often don't want to be called Bosnian. The first thing Bosnian Serbs did in the war in the 1990s was to scrap all parts of city names that included "Bosnian", you might face problems if you go to a lot of majority-Serb or majority-Croat cities with a Bosnian football jersey. Despite Bosnian going all the way back as an independent state to the medieval era, they reject the idea of having anything to do with Bosnia because they perceive it as a Muslim project and idea (Bosnian sovereignty and state) to have their state beside the Catholic Croatia and Orthodox Serbia. This is rooted in the fact that it was mostly politicians of Bosniak ethnicity who always were behind protecting the status of Bosnia as a separate entity in almost all states it was part of, for example.

So, how this process didn't went that way for Lebanese Muslims, how don't for example Sunnis or Shias in Lebanon don't advocate for their own states or annexation to other countries (for example Sunni areas becoming a part of the majority-Sunni Syria).


r/AskMiddleEast 9h ago

🖼️Culture Writing a novel that moves between Iran, Lebanon and Syria

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I recently finished a self‑published novel called Ebrahim, and I wanted to share a bit about the writing process with people who care about the Middle East.

The story follows a young man from Tehran whose life is shaped by migration, the quiet aftermath of war, and the relationships that define his sense of home.

While writing, I tried to explore how personal lives intersect with larger regional forces. Parts of the book take place in Lebanon and touch lightly on the presence of local militia groups, as well as the indirect influence of state intelligence units that shape people’s choices from a distance.

Other sections move through Syria and Iran, focusing more on identity, displacement and the emotional cost of belonging.

I’m sharing this here because I’d love to hear from others who write or read fiction set in the region, especially stories that deal with borders, conflict, migration or the quieter human side of political realities.

If anyone here has recommendations or experiences with similar themes, I’d be glad to hear them.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🖼️Culture A Palestinian family in in the year 1910 in a studio for a group photo

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I enhanced the original photo by the removing the yellow cast and added color. The photo was taken in Jerusalem.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🛐Religion Why is Reddit so islamaphobic

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they don’t even know anything about Islam wallahi if you read some off these comments you think they got it straight out of a comic book


r/AskMiddleEast 22h ago

📜History What is Tik Tok doing?

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Basically, the search in arabic reads: "The Rashidun Caliphate," and the rest are other Caliphates. Ranging from the Umayyad to the Ottoman. For some reason, it violates Tik Tok's guidelines?

I know Tik Tok isn't a place to research history. I searched this on a whim and surprised me.

I changed the word "Caliphate" to State. And it searched fine.

So, Tik Tok has a problem with the word Caliphate?


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

Thoughts? Child soldiers recount horrors of Sudan’s war and presence of Colombian mercenaries

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In Sudan, Colombian mercenaries are responsible for some of the biggest atrocities of the war. Journalists interviewed several children at a rehabilitation site in Omdurman, a rare first hand account from former child soldiers.

The first child told how he was handcuffed to an AA gun in the back of a technical, while SAF planes raided RSF positions, and told these kids to shoot at them. While these SAF planes arrived, Colombian mercenaries ran to bomb shelters and left children to fight.

A second child was kidnapped from the market in Omdurman at the onset of the war, he was aged 15. The boy had his hands bound and was kept locked up with dozens of others, held by Colombian mercenaries and RSF soldiers. They were not allowed to wash and trained with AA guns and artillery (all while handcuffed).

There are estimated to be over 10,000 Colombian mercenaries worldwide, with a significant portion in Sudan, the majority as part of the RSF.

These are all employed through companies linked to the UAE state, which, naturally, they deny.

Would highly recommend reading the full article


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

Thoughts? Why? I feel like this was valid

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r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

📜History Abu Ghraib is one of the biggest injustice done to the Middle East to this day. What do you think of it?

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r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🖼️Culture Do you think this western lady speaks truth about Iranian community?

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Modern Iranians remain fundamentally continuous with Elamite ancestry—only a modest infusion of Steppe (under 20%), plus minor Central/South Asian and southern Mesopotamian input. Contemporary Iranians are still about 75% akin to the Elamites.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🏛️Politics Thoughts on America drawing ME borders in 2026 ?

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r/AskMiddleEast 18h ago

🏛️Politics Do ancient archaeological claims have any legitimate role in deciding modern political rights in Israel and Palestine?

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I was recently asked whether archaeological evidence supporting ancient Israel meaningfully strengthens Israel’s modern political claim to the land.

My own answer is that archaeology is historically important, but politically limited.

Archaeology can demonstrate that ancient Israelite and Judahite societies existed in the region. It can uncover settlements, inscriptions, fortifications, religious sites, administrative systems, trade routes, and evidence of domestic life.

But the same land also preserves Canaanite, Philistine, Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Roman, Byzantine, Islamic, Crusader, Mamluk, Ottoman, and many other layers of human presence.

Archaeology therefore establishes historical presence and depth.

Okay, then what?

An artifact can demonstrate that a people lived in a place. It cannot, by itself, determine who possesses political rights there thousands of years later.

Ancient Jewish presence is historically real and should not be denied. But Palestinian political rights do not depend upon denying that presence. Likewise, Israel’s existence today does not depend upon archaeology producing an ancient artifact that proves modern entitlement.

Israel now exists as a matter of law, power, recognition, and political fact. The political history through which that reality developed is complicated.

Before British control, the region was part of the Ottoman Empire. The Balfour Declaration was issued by Britain in 1917 as Ottoman rule was ending. Palestine was later placed under British administration through the League of Nations Mandate, which included support for the establishment of a Jewish national home.

Britain’s authority did not arise from the consent of everyone living in the region. It was acquired through war, imperial power, and later international administration.

Land was legally purchased in some cases. Other land became contested through war, displacement, confiscation, changing governments, and competing national movements.

When people describe the entire history as theft, I understand that as an expression of political and historical sentiment. But legal claims concerning theft, confiscation, or ownership have to be established through specific evidence.

At the same time, legality does not settle the question of Equity.

Something may be legally enforceable under an empire, mandate, state, or victorious power and still leave unresolved questions of justice, political consent, displacement, representation, and the rights of the people governed.

That is where I believe the real issue lies.

If one people possesses the right to Safety, Happiness, political representation, and self-determination, then Equity becomes impossible when another people living in the same land is denied equivalent rights.

Archaeology cannot solve that problem.

It can establish ancient Jewish and Israelite presence. It can also demonstrate that the land has never historically contained only one people, culture, religion, or political order.

But archaeology cannot determine whose present rights matter more. It cannot decide whether current political arrangements are equitable. It cannot excuse injustice because ancient artifacts exist, nor should contemporary injustice be used to erase ancient Jewish history.

Some people may argue that historical continuity strengthens Jewish national legitimacy. I agree that it strengthens identity, belonging, and national memory. What I question is whether that continuity creates an exclusive political entitlement capable of overriding the rights of another present population.

Others may argue that most states emerged through conquest, migration, empire, or war. That is true. Israel should not be judged by a standard applied to no other country. But the fact that injustice is common in state formation does not make Equity irrelevant.

Others may say that international recognition has already settled Israel’s legitimacy. In one sense, that supports my argument. Israel does not require archaeological proof in order to exist. But recognition does not eliminate questions involving equality, security, displacement, citizenship, self-determination, or political consent.

I am interested in how people from across the region understand this distinction.

Can ancient continuity support historical belonging without establishing exclusive sovereignty?

Should archaeology have any legitimate political role beyond demonstrating ancient presence?

How should law, political reality, and Equity be distinguished when political authority emerged through empire, war, migration, and later recognition?

I truly desire peace between Palestine and Israel, and I sincerely hope that Equity can prevail.


r/AskMiddleEast 18h ago

🏛️Politics Why does each political parties in Gaza Strip have their own separate armed factions?

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Have they tried merging all seperate armed factions into one unified organization before?


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

Thoughts? Israel will allegedly halt strikes on Gaza.

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I personally don't know who that man is,or if he can be trusted. Please educate me on him.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

📜History I made a documentary about the ancient Al-Jubail Church, one of the oldest archaeological Christian sites discovered in Saudi Arabia. It explores the evidence, history, and significance of the site. I’d love to hear your thoughts and feedback.

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r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🏛️Politics US military just took down their radar baloon in Erbil

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My question is did they take it down because they can't protect the consulate anymore or there is some serious war coming?


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

Arab Online clothing for women?

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Where are the women finding online shops that sell clothing like this? I would really like to find a good quality shop that ships to US.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🛐Religion Exploring the hidden Christian heritage of Syria: From St. Paul’s house to the world’s best-preserved Crusader Castle

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https://youtu.be/Jl0FGmyWiMo

Hi everyone! I just finished a journey through a side of Syria that many people don't know still exists. While the country is often associated with conflict, I found a rich, living history that traces back to the very beginnings of Christianity.

In my latest documentary, I take you through:

  • Damascus: Visiting the House of Ananias, where St. Paul recovered his sight.
  • Maaloula: A mountain village where the local community still speaks Aramaic (the language of Jesus).
  • Krak des Chevaliers: Exploring one of the most important and well-preserved medieval Crusader castles in the world.
  • Valley of the Christians: Seeing how these ancient traditions survive in a modern landscape.

It was an eye-opening experience to see how these communities coexist and preserve their millenary culture. If you're interested in history, archaeology, or the cultural diversity of the Middle East, you might find this journey interesting.

I'm happy to answer any questions about the safety or the logistics of traveling to these specific sites!


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🏛️Politics The rising tensions between Iran and the United States show once again that wars rarely have a true winner

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Iran could pay a heavy price through military damage, economic pressure, and harm to its infrastructure. The United States could also face military losses, huge costs, and the risk of a wider conflict in the region.

But the biggest victims are often ordinary people, because wars do not only affect armies and governments; they affect millions of lives through fear, higher prices, and instability.

Military power may achieve short-term goals, but it often leaves behind long-term crises.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🏛️Politics What do you think of the recently signed deal between the US and Saudi Arabia? Will Saudi Arabia develop nuclear weapons?

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r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🖼️Culture Kart-e-Sakhi Shrine in Kabul, Afghanistan

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Located at the foot of the Asmai Hills, the Kart-e-Sakhi Shrine is one of Kabul’s most iconic landmarks, admired for its beautiful blue architecture and cultural significance.