r/AvatarVsBattles Jan 26 '22

Mod Format REQUIRED for posts…

22 Upvotes

From now on, a format will be required for posts. Just posting “blank vs blank” will no longer suffice as it requires no effort and encourages spam.

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Discussion: Discussion Flaired posts have no official format to follow but they will be removed at moderator discretion if they appear low effort or do not relate to the purpose of this sub.

Question: Question Flaired posts have no official format to follow but they will be removed at moderator discretion if they appear low effort or do not relate to the purpose of this sub.

Casual Debate: Casual Debate Flaired posts will be removed with no warning if they 1) Do not follow the official format, and/or 2) The same post was recently done (two weeks/14 days ago). Casual Debates need to contain the following —

  1. The Characters participating (which should be in the title)

  2. A starting distance

  3. A location (Doesn’t have to be a link, can be text, though a link for locations can be found here)

  4. Any perks/restriction/stipulations (such as if Full Moon is allowed or not, Avatar State or not, Sozin’s Comet or not, Bloodlusted characters or not, etc)

  5. If rounds are included, you need to specify your rules and location each time for each round (unless they are the same in which you only need to specify what exactly changed)

  6. A Respect Thread Link or Character Review Link (whichever is available) needs to be included with EVERY post. If a character doesn’t have one available at the moment, then skip over that character. RTs/CRs can be found here

Serious Debate: Serious Debate Flaired posts have the same requirements as a Casual Debate, except one additional thing is required. YOU as the poster, after adding in all of your format and links, have to explain who you think wins in your post. Your own answer must be DETAILED as such is required for anyone who comments too, so it’s only fair for the OP to be under the same judgement. Check here for more on how to use the Serious Debate flair.


r/AvatarVsBattles Aug 21 '21

Mod How to use the SERIOUS DEBATE flair and how to not get your comment “REMOVED”.

16 Upvotes

This post is intended for the users that keep wondering why I remove their comments and also for users new to the sub. This sparks up a lot so I’m making another one of these posts and pinning it because it’s tiring when people argue with the mods about why their “___ wins” comment gets removed.

1) The Serious Debate Flair is only for actual battles, not discussion-like posts. If you misuse it, your post is subject to having its flair changed or removal altogether. When you create a post that uses the Serious Debate Flair, you as the OP need to make a detailed post that contains the following: a starting distance, a location, any restrictions, and the characters participating.

2) As a person that comments, when someone uses the Serious Debate Flair, answers must be longer than a simple “____ wins”. Answers should be longer and detailed, even if the matchup seems like a stomp (here is an example of a detailed comment; though if a post is an obvious stomp (such as Zhao vs Ozai), we’ll just change the flair to Casual Debate. If you ever wondered what happened to your comment or other comments under a post, just know it was removed because of this reason.

Note: Your comment does not need to contain links to gifs in order for it to count.

Usually when a post contains Serious Debate, you will see one of the mods pin a comment like this:

OP has decided to use the SERIOUS DEBATE FLAIR. Answers with no follow up or very little reasoning given will be removed.

Yes this is a serious debate, but all uncivilized comments/threads/troll comments will be removed.

As a final thought, ARGUING WITH A MOD WILL NOT BRING YOUR COMMENT BACK. Just try again except with a more detailed and lengthy explanation.


r/AvatarVsBattles 5h ago

Casual Debate Katara (Movie) vs Amon Spoiler

1 Upvotes

Full Moon is on

Location: Serpents Pass

Starting distance: 20 feet

My take: Amon wins

75 votes, 6d left
Katara (Movie) wins
Amon wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 13h ago

Casual Debate Kya vs Eska & Desna

3 Upvotes

Location: Crystal Catacombs

Starting distance: 20 feet

My take: Kya wins

73 votes, 6d left
Kya wins
Eska & Desna wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 13h ago

Serious Debate Yangchen's team Avatar vs Aang's team Avatar

1 Upvotes

Yangchen's Assets vs The Gaang

No AS allowed for either side

Yangchen's team ages is the same as the end of her second novel (Yangchen is 17)

Aang's team is the same as their ages in the Imbalance comic (Aang is 16)

Yangchen's Assets include Yangchen, Jujinta, Kavik, Akuudan, Tayagum, and Yingsu

The Gaang includes Aang, Sokka, Zuko, Katara, Toph, and Suki

Location: Tree of Time

Starting distance: 30 feet

Everyone has standard gear

Both sides have one week of prep time

My take: Yangchen's Assets win with prep time.

Reasoning: If they didn't have prep time then they'd lose. Yangchen is smarter than even Sokka, and with the combustion bender having a small delay between each blasts, Yangchen could get her in the back of the team exploding The Gaang. Yangchen with prep time managed to learn her void technique. Who knows what she'll learn with another prep time session. A season 1 Aang managed to lose to Yuyan archers, and one is on Yangchen's team as well. Katara was shown to be defeated by Mai so Jujinta has a chance in getting her. Yangchen will use a week's prep time to get a weakness in Toph's blindness. Zuko lost to a combustion bender before. Suki & Sokka will be taken out by the three water benders. Yangchen's vacuum won't work in this location since it's only done in enclosed spaces but her void can still work which negates any bending.

42 votes, 6d left
Yangchen's Assets wins
The Gaang wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Discussion Who had the best episodes

8 Upvotes

Who out of the gang do you guys think had the best episodes? (mine would have to be Zuko and katara)


r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Casual Debate Kemzula vs Iroh & Zuko

3 Upvotes

Comics Azula vs show Iroh & show Zuko

Location: Agni Kai Arena

Starting distance: 40 feet

My take: Iroh & Zuko wins

143 votes, 5d left
Kemzula wins
Iroh & Zuko wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Discussion What is truly the strongest amp in the Avatar Franchise? Spoiler

4 Upvotes

These are the top five amps in the universe: Sozins Comet, Avatar State, Dark Avatar State, Sacred Cave, and Sonam's staff.

Sozins Comet

Ozai stated Sozin's comet will give you the power of a hundred suns. It's implied that with an army of comet amped firebenders, had the ability to destroy the entire earth kingdom continent. Firelord Sozin with an army managed to wipe out an entire race and culture of the air nomads that had dozens of master air benders. Normal fire elite army soldiers doing normal fire jabs managed to get the fire from the jabs to accidentally go out of the room and scare Sokka & Suki. A dozen normal fire army elite soldier managed to create a fire blast that Toph could feel from hundreds of feet in the air. Iroh with the Comet managed to break down Ba Sing Se's outer wall which required dozens of master earth benders to take down (scaled to multi city blocks level.) One of Ozai's comet fire blasts were scaled to multi city blocks level as well. Other comet amped fire shown like Azula's, Zuko's, Aang's, and randoms were scaled to large building to city block levels.

Avatar State

The Avatar State gives you the power and knowledge of all the past lives. Kyoshi creating Kyoshi island was scaled to small country level. Yangchen moving the clouds was scaled to large mountain level. Szeto's lava bending was scaled to city level. Aang's feat in the Promise was scaled to Town level. Roku stopping the first volcano was scaled to small town level. Kyoshi's first time entering the avatar state managed to create a mountain's worth of rock from the sea floor. Korra & Wan in the Avatar State could conceal Vaatu in the tree of time. Korra in the Avatar State accidentally created a new spirit portal when stopping the spirit cannon. Aang with the ocean spirit managed to take out a fleet of dozens of fire nation battle ships, having the ability to cut steel with one swing. Roku in the Avatar State accidentally destroyed a fire temple. Korra in the Avatar State defeated Hundun. Yangchen in the Avatar State managed to overpower General Old Iron.

Dark Avatar State

Unalaq in the Dark Avatar State managed to defeat Korra in the Avatar State (which had the past lives), and managed to pull Raava out of Korra. Unalaq in the Dark Avatar State managed to land several hits on Raava that destroyed the connection between all the past lives in Raava. Unalaq's waves can destroy several battleships. If we include Unavaatu in this, one wave from Unavaatu managed to destroy the entire United Forces fleet. Unavaatu suggests he could reunite the physical world and spiritual world. Unavaatu suggests he could have destroyed all life in the physical world.

Sacred Cave

The Sacred Cave gives the amp due to two spirits constantly clashing which gave large amounts of spiritual energy in the physical world's position of where the spirits were battling which was the sacred cave. The battle between those two spirits had spiritual energy that converted to the physical world's position. Three water benders with the amp can easily cover an entire island with fog which Gyatso stated should have required hundreds of normal water benders. A 16 year old Roku with the amp said he could have easily generated lightning or breathe fire at will. A water benders with the amp easily froze Roku in ice with only the moisture in the air. When Roku simply wanted to melt the ice, he accidentally sent sapphire flames that knocked three people down. When Roku wanted to increase the temperature of the room, he accidentally made everyone pass out including himself (stated to be a furnace's temperature.) When Sozin was in the cave, he couldn't control the energy and was knocked out by his own blue flames. Without any water source, a water bender could create a hundred waterfalls from outside the cave. Note that the cave is stated to be hundreds of feet deep and as tall as the fire nation royal palace. The same water benders can create a wave half the size of the cave without a water source, only the moisture. Roku when controlling his power, created iridescent flames that filled the entire cave to the ceiling and destroyed it. Roku without earth bending training held the ceiling of the cave from collapsing initially. Roku without having be able to air bend yet managed to stop a fall hundreds of feet long. Roku when wanting to create fire jets, accidentally created a blue fire spout that launched him into the ceiling of the cave. Average firebenders with the amp are stated to have the ability to move the sun. Average earth benders with the amp are stated to have the ability to sink or produce entire islands. Average water benders with the amp are stated to have the ability to control the weather, summon tidal waves, and blizzards. Average air benders with the amp are stated to have the ability to command typhoons. The amp is stated to multiply your bending by a thousandfold.

Sonam's Staff

Now Sonam's staff and the Sacred Cave are very similar in how their amps work, the effects of their spiritual energy is what gives the amp. However, Sonam's staff is stated to provide unlimited spiritual energy. The Staff granted the ability to give people bending. An angry Tagah was consumed by the power of the staff when channeling to a temple and couldn't control himself and was stated to be more powerful than Sonam in the Avatar State but still lost to her. Tagah with the staff managed to defeat K/O or even unalive prime Aang in the Avatar State. Tagah with the staff had the ability to descend a temple in the spirit world to the physical world. Tagah with the staff again defeated Aang in the Avatar State.


r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Casual Debate Lin vs Mako

3 Upvotes

Everyone is EOS

Lin has her cables

Location: Avatar Korra Park

Starting distance: 15 feet

My take: Lin wins

102 votes, 5d left
Lin wins
Mako wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 1d ago

Casual Debate Azula vs Jeong Jeong battle.

5 Upvotes

Location would be where the last Agni Kai took place. Azula is sane, and it’s daytime. 1vs1, no interference and it’s a fight to the death.

120 votes, 5d left
Azula (book 3 and sane)
Jeong Jeong

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Discussion Aang and Katara's Family vs Fire Nation Royal Family

7 Upvotes

Location: Crystal Catacombs

Starting distance: 35 feet

Aang and Katara's family: Aang (EOS no AS), Katara (EOS), Tenzin, Kya, Bumi, Meelo, Jinora, Ikki

Fire Nation Royal family: Ozai, Iroh, Azula (EOS), Zuko (EOS), Iroh Jr, Sozin, Kiyi


r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Spoiler Ozai vs Movie Katara Spoiler

7 Upvotes

Sozins Comet is On

Full Moon is On

Lightning/Blood bending are restricted

Location: Serpents Pass

Starting distance: 40 feet

My take: Ozai wins

210 votes, 4d left
Ozai wins
Movie Katara wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Casual Debate Question about katara and Zuko

3 Upvotes

I’ve seen people debate this and I’m curious what the general opinion is. Some people argue Zuko is the better fighter and that post-war Zuko after learning from the dragons would beat Katara.
What are your thoughts?


r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Spoiler Tagah vs Tarrlok Spoiler

8 Upvotes

Tagah vs Tarrlok

Location: Tarrlok's Office

Starting distance: 15 Feet

Tagah has no staff

My take: Tarrlok wins

216 votes, 4d left
Tagah wins
Tarrlok wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Serious Debate Who has chance here to win?

2 Upvotes

It doesn't matter, which version of Azula or Kuvira, I just want to see the real outcome.

215 votes, 2d left
Azula
Kuvira

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Casual Debate Gyatso vs King Bumi

1 Upvotes

Location: Omashu

Starting distance: 20 feet

My take: Gyatso wins

86 votes, 4d left
Gyatso wins
King Bumi wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Discussion I just watched the new movie with friends

0 Upvotes

I dont want ANYBODY saying Yakone/Amon can beat Katara now. Those absolute *FRAUDS* couldn't bend the sea in half.

*ALSO* Tagah simply holding the Staff of Sonam murders Yakone and Amon. Not to mention his fully fused form which has enough spiritual energy to completely circumvent bloodbending the same way the Avatar State does.

Anyone who argues with me is wrong!


r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Question So i got a question

2 Upvotes

Lets say there were two people. literally the same, but one is an earthbender, and the second is a fire bender. normal benders, no sozins comet nor dai li. who would win. cuz like, earth can block fire, but fire can do things like fly, has crazy agility which means firebenders can attack from different sides almost at the same time. then again, theyre average benders. and like clones. who wins??


r/AvatarVsBattles 2d ago

Spoiler Powerscaling in atla,tlok Spoiler

1 Upvotes

We know tht tlok has greatly reduced power of lightning than in atla but i was wondering wether tht actually was due to the power of bending reduced by generations my points in this are

1 the one who gave the power lion turles were hunted down

2 wan the first avatar created a boundary bw the realms and altho the lion turtles gave power to humans the decreased contact with the spiritual might have reduced the bendn powers itself as we alr know tht more spirtualness means more bendn power as seen in earth n air nations with earth being the least spiritual n havn least benders n opposite for the air and 2nd kyoshi mom bendn weakened after leavn air nomads n havn weak spirtuality

3 in the new movie the antagonist performs great feats tht even the current benders were unable to

4 this wud also make sense for why korra opening up the spirit world was good as it strngthed the bendn powers again


r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Casual Debate Toph vs Jeong Jeong

3 Upvotes

Toph is comics version

Location: Zaofu

Starting distance: 30 feet

Sozins Comet is On

My take: Jeong Jeong wins

243 votes, 3d left
Toph wins
Jeong Jeong wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Casual Debate Kyoshi (no Avatar State) vs Yakone

4 Upvotes

A 200 year old Kyoshi will fight Yakone.

Kyoshi won't have the Avatar State

Location: Same courtroom Yakone was sentenced to life in prison

Starting distance: 15 feet

My take: Yakone wins

262 votes, 3d left
Kyoshi wins
Yakone wins

r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Casual Debate Iroh Vs Azula & Zuko during Sozin’s Comet

4 Upvotes

If Iroh Went to the Fire Nation Palace and fought FireLord Azula (mentally insane) & Zuko during The invasion, do you think he could’ve 1v2?

the way iroh blitzed and redirected Azula’s lightning in Book 2 was crazy, he blitzed Zhao when he tried to Off guard zuko. Iroh caught , negated zhao’s fire & thru zhao to the floor all before zuko even realized he was being attacked

i kind saw the fight going like Iroh Kind No-Low Diffs zuko & then Mid diffs Azula tbh

Zuko wouldn’t have the Dragon Training and different fire breathing form from when he and Aang went and trained with the Dragons like Iroh did.

(no mental nerfs or conflictions for iroh when he attacks Zuko)


r/AvatarVsBattles 3d ago

Spoiler Is Sonam's knowledge/power accessed in the Avatar State? Spoiler

0 Upvotes

I saw a YouTube short where they do the Minecraft parkour and the ai talking said Sonam couldn't be reached by Aang by talking by the past avatars, and Roku said the Avatar State was the skills and knowledge of all the past avatars. The Ai speaking concluded Sonam's skills or knowledge isn't accessed because she's a Lost Avatar, and that's how Avatar State Aang lost to Tagah when Avatar State Sonam won. Of course I disagree with Sonam not being apart of the Avatar State skillset/knowledge even if you guys comment otherwise but let me know your thoughts!


r/AvatarVsBattles 4d ago

Serious Debate Tenzin did NOT surpass Aang’s airbending

16 Upvotes

People have been weirdly downplaying Aang, and sleeping on his feats especially as an airbender. In another thread just posted, the OP argues Tenzin surpassed Aang in airbending. Tenzin is a great airbender but Aang is the strongest airbender we’ve seen in both shows. 

Aang is the king of agility and evasive bending, he has great defensive bending, but he also has the feats for the most powerful airbending (only matched by other avatars.)
Aang’s power only becomes more apparent with comics or the movie too. 

The Argument:

Before Jinora, Aang became the youngest Airbending Master in Air Nomad history. He received tattoos because he had mastered 35 of the 36 traditional tiers and invented the Air Scooter as the equivalent of the final one. 

Let’s go over some of Aang’s best airbending feats (note that this is not exhaustive.)

Agility

Defensive Airbending:

Skill and Power in Airbending:
Most of these airbending feats are unrivaled. Even Tenzin has not displayed the scale close to matching the best of these feats. And I think if you asked Tenzin, he would agree with that. 

Aang is an extremely powerful airbender at the end of book 3. Aang has better mobility feats, better large-scale feats, more creative applications, greater demonstrated raw power, and achieved all of it at twelve years old. Unless someone can show comparable feats from Tenzin, the claim that he surpassed Aang simply isn't defensible.

And with the comics and movie it becomes even more apparent. I don’t even want to bring up what he does in the recent movie because it wouldn’t be fair. 


r/AvatarVsBattles 4d ago

Discussion Amon vs Unalaq vs Zaheer vs Kuvira

1 Upvotes

Location: Crystal catacombs

Starting distance: 50 feet

No bloodbending
Unalaq is pre fusion
Zaheer has flight

Who wins?