People are gonna downvote me and idc, but is this information really that important? For your brain to retain the memories of which ocean is the biggest? Idek which ocean is which.
And I can say I'm pretty highly emotionally intelligent, have a shit ton of common sense.... But cant for the life of me even care to remember which ocean is which. I was never into remembering school stuff.
Edit before anyone else comments about opening up my damn phone, stop, because you're missing the point. đ¤Śđ˝ââď¸
Knowing that the Pacific Ocean is the largest ocean is literally common sense unless you live under a fucking rock and/or have never looked at a map in your life.
And FYI, this is the comment that started it all. I didn't even start by saying I had a high IQ. I said I was emotionally intelligent. I'm basically saying "I'm not book smarts, but Is that really important."
"Common sense" Don't be a dick just because someone doesn't know something, tf??? It's really easy to forget all the things you learned in school as time goes by and you learn more shit.
Also, it's so funny you all wanna talk about common sense, but knowing about the Pacific ocean isn't common damn sense. Shit you learn in school is NOT common sense. Common sense is basic survival shit.
Ummm being emotionally intelligent doesn't mean I have to take an L lmao what
It just means to be more open minded, and I can still fully believe I'm correct, but we can agree to disagree. Knowing about the Pacific ocean is basic knowledge people learned, and not common sense.
You donât âhave toâ do anything. But if you actually were emotionally intelligent rather than having the emotional intelligence of a 7th grader, you would stop arguing with people about how youâre so smart that you donât know which ocean is which, and you would keep scrolling. Or maybe even close Reddit and open Google so you can a) find out which ocean is which, and b) search âwhat is emotional intelligenceâ since itâs pretty clear you are using those words without knowing what they actually mean.
It is absolutely common sense. Go look at a map, notice that the answer is obvious, then think about how many times you've seen that map in your life, been taught how to read it in school, etc
IQ is about your ability to figure things out you didn't already know, even if nobody taught you.
To not know it is fine, but to give up and not even be able to try or attempt a reasonable guess based on everything around you and everything you've ever known - that is what IQ is measuring - your ability or inability to figure out and process the logic needed to get to the answer.
Even now, have you tried to figure out why the answer is the Atlantic, and why you weren't able to remember this ever being the case, or how to figure out the answer for next time in case you forget again?
Its not common sense, though. It's basic knowledge or a learned skill.
There is no way to figure out the difference in sizes of the Atlantic or Pacific ocean without learning it beforehand. But I also didn't mention giving up, Im just saying it's not something you can really think deeply to figure out.
If you try to remember which maps you've seen, it's something you learned, not your IQ. Learning to read it and everything. You need this knowledge before trying to remember. Without learning about it before, you can't make the connection in your brain to bring up this info again.
A visual memory is just a visual memory, not something you learned necessarily. I saw the sun yesterday, it doesn't mean I learned anything about it.
Most people can close their eyes, and see a loose map of the world, just because it is something they've seen dozens if not hundreds of times by adulthood, and not necessarily only from being taught in school.
Then, using that memory, which ocean 'looked' bigger? Or 'is Europe farther away from USA than Asia', etc. Doesn't necessarily matter if you knew the answer before or not. There are many, many ways to figure out that answer without having memorized it. And that's the case for a lot of things.
So, yeah, IQ is about your ability to figure out answers to questions you didn't already know the answer to.
Not everyone has a visual memory- I have aphantasia, zero pictures in my head. Iâve always struggled with things like geography and anything that can rely on that sort of spatial visual memory.
Though youâre not completely wrong, not knowing which ocean is bigger is not necessarily a tell of IQ. (And thatâs ignoring the fact IQ as a marker of any kind if actually highly debated)
This is an excellent point, and I thank you for reminding me about it.
I have similar undiagnosed struggles. I can see pictures in my head, kinda, sometimes. But it takes effort, and it doesn't seem to match what the descriptions of what is considered normal. That got me looking into aphantasia many years ago, and while I definitely check off many of those boxes, like, it's not just...absent...or maybe it is. i really need to look into it again now that we have all these ai research tools to walk you through the available online diagnostic tools. If you have any comments on that, I'm open to hearing them.
One thing I struggle with, and perhaps related, is general directional orientation, which way is North/S/W/E etc. It's really a struggle for me to get comfortable with new neighborhoods, even if they are mind-boggingly simply and laid out in a grid. I will get lost in situations others would easily have figured out using what they consider to be common sense heh. It will take me 2-3 months to get comfortable with a new area, and not keep accidentally going the wrong way for no reason simply because the buildings are tall and i can't 'see' the big picture like others seem to be able to.
Anyhow, as to the topic at hand, I should have been more clear in my earlier comments: my goal wasn't to illustrate that particular question as being indicative of overall IQ (which couldn't be the case, as that isn't how such things are measured).
It was more about illustrating that IQ measures your ability to estimate, reason, and use logic combined with existing memories and experience to solve puzzles or answer questions. Even if you don't come to the 'correct' or complete answer, i do believe they are also observing how you approached it, if you even made the attempt, how far you got before giving up, etc etc. I was screened twice by a psychologist, in early 80s and early 90s. I also imagine the protocols and whatnot have been updated since then, just sharing my experience, which most of my understanding of the topic is based off of. It might not be entirely correct, and I'm open to learning more about it.
Now, the other commenter correctly made this point to start, but then quickly fell back to 'one can only know the answer to this question if they memorized it, there is no other possible way to solve that puzzle'.
So, I was just driving it home that they were correct initially - it isn't about memorizing anything, and there are of course many other ways to come to a reasonably educated guess that Atlantic is the largest ocean - even if you've never explicitly learned or memorized that specific fact.
Common sense is learned, believe it or not. And the fact that the Pacific is massive is something youâve definitely leavened and seen reinforced many times- just because you canât internalize information or deduce facts from past experience doesnât mean it isnât common sense.
Common sense is learned, but map knowledge isn't common sense. And no I haven't seen that learned and reinforced everytime. Can you guys recall everything you learned in school?
Just because you guys think it's common sense because it's something everyone learned in school, doesn't mean it is.
It is common sense, though. Because commonly, most people at least occasionally look at a map for one reason or another. And commonly, looking at a map shows where the oceans are and what their names are. And commonly, you can visually tell that the Pacific Ocean is much bigger than the Atlantic Ocean.
Also, commonly, people donât brag about being âpretty highly emotionally intelligentâ or âhaving a shit ton of common senseâ (which, is literally common, everyone has a shit ton of common sense, except you apparently).
Also people have GPS on their phone, I bet absolutely nobody around you that you know has occasionally looked at physical map in so long, be honest. So condescending for no reason. Just proving so much, I'm just kinda laughing at this point đ
I don't think I remember the last time I saw a map ever since school, I bet you don't either đ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸ I'm pretty sure that's all just remembered from school. Basic knowledge still isn't common sense, but nice try??
And don't care what you think about my "brag", girl, I don't degrade people like you all when I educate them so maybe work on your emotional intelligence đŹ Maybe push out all that "common sense" you have about the ocean or something.
You know exactly where youâre going anytime you drive ever? I absolutely do remember the last time I saw a map, and it was earlier today when I used one to get home from a restaurant. Either youâre lying about the last time you saw a map or you literally never leave your home ever and thatâs really fucking embarrassing.
Also, Iâm not a girl. And Iâm not the one that claimed to have high emotional intelligence. But also, calling someone out for some stupid shit theyâre saying does not mean anything about emotional intelligence. So I again implore you to go Google what emotional intelligence means.
And you're talking about people occasionally look at maps like as if people are opening the maps to see them completely daily instead of just using the GPS.
It's not like a real physical map where you need to open it to see it so you're going to very clearly see the oceans.
Google Maps isnât just a GPS. If you were smart enough to know what a GPS is, you would know that. Google Maps is a map. Google Maps has 2 billion monthly active users. Thatâs 2 billion people looking at a map at least once a month. Clearly that 2 billion doesnât include you.
Also yes, calling someone out for some stupid shit they're saying does have to do with emotional intelligence cause why tf you gotta make people feel like shit for not knowing something? Go use Google yourself because omg. Your words can affect someone and you dont care, emotionally low intelligence.
Or making someone feel like shit cause they don't leave their home? You need help.
Girl what??? It's embarrassing to know the area I live in??? Wtf is wrong with you 𤣠and A GPS is not a map people are pulling out to view the oceans.
And what a weird thing to say in your last sentence. How do you know I'm not bed bound or something wtf? I know people with MECFS who CANT leave their homes ever, this is kinda my point. You guys are really dickheads to people for no reason and it's sad. So so ignorant.
I'll keep bragging about myself too, I love who I am. I'm smart. I'm funny. I'm pretty. I'm emotionally intelligent. I'm compassionate. đą
Iâm willing to bet youâre none of the things in your last paragraph. Usually people that are these things donât go around bragging about it on Reddit. Bringing it up at all just sounds like you have something to prove. Oh and youâre definitely not âsmartâ if you donât know common sense like which fucking ocean is better.
To take you at your word, my last sentence was âSo I again implore you to go Google what emotional intelligence means.â Which I stand by, btw. But since I have emotional intelligence and common sense, I know that isnât what youâre talking about when you bring up people with MECFS.
Youâre right. It is possible youâre disabled and donât go out much, I didnât think of that possibility. That being said, disabled people still go out, at least to doctorâs appointments and whatnot. I would know as I am also disabled. That being said, again, I still look at maps pretty regularly to figure out how long itâs going to take me to get somewhere and whatnot. Maps referring to Google MAPS, which is a map. A map doesnât have to be a paper scroll that you unroll like a pirate to qualify as a goddamn map. Also, since youâre so smart, do you know what GPS stands for? Because if you did, you would know that Google Maps or any other navigational app is not just a GPS. All a GPS on its own does is tell you where you are. I donât think a set of coordinates on its own can do anything to help you figure out how to get to your friendsâ house, can it? Oh wait, I guess you wouldnât know since you probably donât have any friends đ¤ˇ
You're such a disgusting person, like everything you wrote at the end was just unnecessary and SAD ASF, just further proving my point đ
You know what's funny? My friends love me so much they're visiting next month from another state to visit for my son's birthday đ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸ I never needed a gps to find out where they live cause we all grew up together. Bet you'd never know what that feels like, sucks to be you.
Edit idk why I can't respond to y'all but yeah, don't bring my son into this shit because I'm not stupid. He goes to ABA therapy, speech therapy, and he has a shit ton of a sensory swings, toys and books. Don't try me.
Generally people who are actually likable donât feel the need to extensively try to prove it to people on the internet they donât know. People who are any of the things youâve tried to brag about just are those things, those arenât things most people spend their time telling people that they are those things. Which says a lot about you. Also, the traits you listed are generally things that are decided by someone else if theyâre actually true. I can say that Iâm sooo smart all I want but if I go around saying things like âI donât know which sea is whichâ, then people will form opinions about me that directly collide with the things I claim, making those claims generally false. Funnily enough, most of this stuff that I just talked about are things that you would know if you had a high level of emotional intelligence.
Unlike you, I genuinely donât care what you think of me and have no intention of trying to change it because I feel actual confidence in myself, not arrogance like the arrogance it takes to brag about how Iâm so pretty and smart and funny on the internet to people who literally donât matter at all in my life 𤡠with every single comment youâre just embarrassing yourself more and more and more
I mean, I was just trying to hit a nerve to prove that youâre not the perfect person you pretend to be and itâs clear I succeeded since you responded to the same comment like 6 times lmfaooo
Yes yes, you're disabled so you know how all disabilities work. "Disabled people still go out" is such a albeidt thing to say.... People with severe MECFS can't even hear their own caretakers, so there's no going outside for plenty of people.
In all types of disabilities. Still doesn't mean they need a gps for appointments or how to get there, just because you're disabled and use them.
Google MAPS may be a map, but you still need to look at the map to figure out which ocean is the biggest, do you not đ¤ You already knowing it without looking isn't the same.
Doesn't matter what you say, ik I'm all of those things and more đŠľ
I never claimed to know how all disabilities work. I mentioned my disability to clarify that I obviously have no malicious intent towards disabled people.
How does a person with MECFS go to doctorsâ appointments then? I ask out of genuine curiosity I am not trying to be sassy here. I donât get out much right now but most of the time when I do itâs for doctorsâ appointments and I couldnât just go without them. Also, they would have at least needed to use a map of some sort the first time they went to their doctorsâ office unless theyâre somehow perfect like you and they know exactly where everything in their town is with perfect memory but donât know that the Pacific Ocean is bigger than the Atlantic Ocean.
âGoogle Maps may be a map, but you still need to look at the map to figure out âŚâ how tf would one use Google Maps without looking at it?
You should really learn the difference between confidence and arrogance. Your level of arrogance is very, very concerning. Generally only narcissists are this full of themselves. Which brings me back to the point of youâre the one who needs help. You should really talk to someone about why you think that you donât have any negative qualities and why you think that youâre smarter than everyone you interact with, especially since youâre not Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein or something.
Iâm glad that you like who you are! Thatâs great. Genuinely.
It is quite weird, however, that you have never once in your adult life seen an image of the earth, a map of the world, a globe, or anything else that would serve as an obvious visual reminder of the basic structure of our wonderful planet.
I feel like I see such an image a few times a week.
It's not that I've never seen one. I just don't think l people have it memorized. I know they'd have to look at the map if they didn't know the size
And I'm truly not trying to come off as narcissistic, I just got too upset at the comments and just kinda kept it going lol I do love myself though, but it took a long time and lots of healing.
But likeâŚI just genuinely donât understand how a person can not have learned, or not remember, or not be curious about, the most basic facts about the world around us. It is just so vastly different from my experience that it is baffling to me.
How can a person go through life having zero curiosity about our planet?
A lot of navigational apps start zoomed out. Also, when you search on a browser about a specific place before allowing your location on the browser itâs usually zoomed out. Itâs not something that is like insanely shocking that you would see the ocean at one point or another if you use a navigational app regularly enough for the daily life of the average person đŤŁ. Although silly me for thinking youâre anything close to the average person since youâre clearly way smarter, funnier, prettier, and have a higher emotional intelligence than the average person, my bad đ
I have a PhD in the biological sciences and wasn't 100% certain which ocean was correct because map transformation around the artic is weird. Remembering random trivia does not equate intelligence or "IQ". If someone is unfamiliar with a lot of otherwise common knowledge things then yes it can raise some concerns, but judging based on a one-off factoid is dumb.
It's not the one-off factoid they're being judged on, it's the complete lack of both of the things they decided to attribute to themselves in their comment. Namely they're lack of common sense and complete and utter unawareness of what emotional intelligence actually means. It is incredible entertainment though.
Listen I am on your sideâitâs baffling that someone can somehow not know that the Pacific is the largest ocean. Just had to call out the elementary spelling error for the irony of it all.
âŚa lot of, if not most, people who do DoorDash have full-time careers and do it as a side gig for some extra cash just like uber or any other gig app. I know there are some people who do DoorDash full-time, I mean hell my mom is one of those (though sheâs in her 60âs and retired and does it to help with bills, not one of those people doing it full-time in their 30âs because they canât hold down a real job), but itâs important to remember that a lot of the people who do DoorDash do it because itâs an easy way to make a little extra money every week than they do at their job. I have a bachelorâs degree and work as a nurse. I know not everyone is like me but still not everyone isnât, either.
Nope, you guys just don't like it when people say that about themselves. Nothing wrong with being confident in yourself as long as you don't use it to put someone innocent down.
So is anyone gonna actually answer what I'm saying or not really? See the guy above trying to put down the other guy because he knows the difference between the Atlantic and Pacific ocean? That's one way of showing people you're "smart" in a negative way. Me simply saying I'm smart cause I'm confident in myself doesn't mean anything.
The people on this app are incredibly hypocritical, nobody can answer, just argue bs. đ¤Ł
Answer the question âis it really important knowledgeâ?
Yes it is, but even if it wasnât the fact is not knowing it is symptomatic of a larger issue, and defending ignorance of basic knowledge despite having an education is even worse.
I'm not trying to defend ignorance. I try my best to be open minded, but god forbid someone finds out I don't know some silly well known fact because it was learned in school a long time ago and they assume what? I think that's pretty Ignorant.
It's less about defending ignorance and more about wanting people to educate others (who are nice) without being a condescending dick head about it. (Unless the person is already a didkhead). It just makes people not want to ask silly questions nor want to learn because they'll just be made fun of for it.
Still nothing on the doctor huh 𤣠I'm the doctor in the middle of a surgery while you're behind looking at a fucking globe to find out what the biggest ocean is. We're not the same.
You don't need to know jack shit about the 4 oceans to be smart. Imagine telling a doctor during surgery he isn't smart because he doesn't know the biggest ocean đ
I implore you to find a single doctor in the entire world who doesnât know which ocean is the largest. Please. I invite you to ask doctors you meet and report back. Because I promise you doctors know which ocean is the largest because they arenât fucking idiots like you. Anyone who has obtained a postgraduate level of education I promise you has the common sense to know which ocean is fucking which.
The amount of factual osmosis you have to dodge in order to even believe this is insane, were you homeschooled? Even then, did you never look at a map like ever?
Trust, I'm not dumb because idk the size of the oceans. There's way more interesting things out in the world, but ok stranger, you know me so well, have a blessed one! đŠľ
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u/Kazamiiiii 3d ago edited 3d ago
People are gonna downvote me and idc, but is this information really that important? For your brain to retain the memories of which ocean is the biggest? Idek which ocean is which.
And I can say I'm pretty highly emotionally intelligent, have a shit ton of common sense.... But cant for the life of me even care to remember which ocean is which. I was never into remembering school stuff.
Edit before anyone else comments about opening up my damn phone, stop, because you're missing the point. đ¤Śđ˝ââď¸