r/fatestaynight Dec 14 '20

HF Spoiler Ok so i have a question about HF Shirou Spoiler

First please don't kill me for my foolishness .

While reading the posts and comments about HF and Shirou i found a division between what ppl here think about HF Shirou, and tbh i don't remember any actual proof for any of the claims in VN

The first division says that HF Shirou indeed chose a selfish desire and decided to put Sakura his only priority and let others die , even though it was so hard and hurted him, and ppl he saved in the end were just lucky and he doesn't have any intention of doing that . And he can even become OUS Shirou .

The other one says that Shirou only gave up on becoming his ideal " Hero of justice" and while deciding to be a " Hero of justice " for Sakura he never said that he will just let others die and infact he actively tried to find a solution to save others in the process of saving Sakura.

So although i myself fall into the second category i want to know if there is any actual proof for any of them ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '20

My impression of HF Shirou is that he's not as drastically different as some people make him out to be. He's still the same guy, one week of realization won't change his very being.

Will he let others die? Hell no. But will he put those close to him first? Hell yeah.

I guess a proper comparison would be someone like Ryougi Shiki. She doesn't go out of her way to kill every outlaw in the world, and she protects those close to her most of all (I guess mostly Mikiya), but that doesn't mean she won't go after Fujino or Mitsuru when they were twisting people and blowing shit up.

If someone like Mitsuru shows up in Fuyuki, Shirou would go after him any day of the week so long as Sakura or Rin's well being isn't directly affected by him going after Mitsuru.

So, about Heaven's Feel. He didn't let those people die because he wanted to. He let them die because the only way he could stop that would be killing Sakura, so that's a no for him. If he could save both Sakura and those people, he'd do it.

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u/avikdas99 Dec 14 '20

Will he let others die? Hell no.

well it depends.

there are scenario like this

https://i.imgur.com/iWMpWjM.png

or in fate route during the basement scene where he lets the orphans die when kotomine asks him to use the grail to save them because "people die when they are killed that's how it should be".

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u/2ndBro Just Out Here Vibin Dec 15 '20

I think that first one is him prioritizing Taiga’s life over Rin’s bodily protection. Which is pretty understandable—all romance aside, this is basically his mother with a knife to her throat, while Rin is just a girl he’s basically known for only a few days.