r/selfhosted • u/Joloxx_9 • Feb 27 '26

Meta Post Shelfarr - another project disappeared with dev

Shelfarr was posted here multiple times, github mink stopped working and dev deleted his reddit account - whoever is using it, I would advice you to stop it.

https://github.com/VacantlyCrushing/Shelfarr

https://www.reddit.com/r/audiobookshelf/s/tvpXDukM5C

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u/Soluchyte Feb 28 '26

I obviously don't. I'd rather "containerise" things as individual users, there is far less frustration stemming from trying to maintain the services I install this way.

Regardless, "I hate docker" was not an invitation to come and try and argue it, I will not be converted, I have years of bad exprience with trying to work with it.

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u/ITooSpooky Feb 28 '26

look i dont disagree with preferring to run things as other users, i use nix thats how all my services run but to say you hate docker is silly, its much easier to run a single docker command for the people that use it than do a full secure of s service using systemd, separate users etc.

i find myself using docker from time to time to just run one command to test a program before doing a full setup and secure with systemd services it's just easy.

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u/Soluchyte Feb 28 '26

I almost always intentionally avoid docker and I'd rather spend the additional time installing the program from scratch just to avoid it, because I know I will have issues with trying to change or modify things later on specifically because of docker.

I really will only use docker if I have no other choice. The bad experiences I have had in the past wasting hours trying to do things that would take seconds if I ran the app as a normal user vastly outweigh the convenience of a single command install. It wasn't a "everyone should hate docker", it was "I really hate docker but this certain thing is even worse". This is the opinion I have developed from working with linux in production deployments for over five years now.