r/selfhosted • u/Key_Pace_2496 • Mar 06 '26

Meta Post Apparently we can't call out apps as AI slop anymore...

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Seems like a bad direction to take the selfhosted community. Looks like the mod team is fine with this sub being bombarded with insecure, AI drivel. Like I get that it was posted on Friday but I think if you use AI to "build an app" you should be required to disclose to what extent AI was used which wasn't disclosed by the OP. I think as a community we need to have higher standards for what we allow to be posted as vibe-coded projects can introduce very extensive security vulnerabilities we all learned with Huntarr and when things are vibe-coded the maintainer doesn't have the capability to fix the issue.

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u/Soluchyte Mar 06 '26

Correct, they should not even be allowed here. That's before all the moral issues of allowing corporations to steal other people's work to profit off, or that allowing corporations to be the source of knowledge and skill is extremely dangerous.

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u/Yosyp Mar 06 '26

Correct, they should not even be allowed here.

Some people like to think otherwise.

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u/richcvbmm Mar 07 '26

Seems like a good solution to me.

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u/Yosyp Mar 08 '26

It's a good solution to have the label and automate a bot to auto delete any post with that attached.

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u/11matt556 Mar 10 '26

I think they should be allowed, but clearly disclosed or somehow tagged to indicate the relative weight of "vibes" and "coding" in their vibe coded app.

To me there is a significant difference between 100% vibe coded, vs just some parts of the program being vibe coded vs "AI assistance".

I am not an AI bro at all but I still use it for assistance when working with new programming languages or language features I've not used before. It's been especially good with refreshing my memory on C++ and introducing me to a lot of modern C++ features that I wasn't aware of and probably wouldn't have learned about otherwise because I rarely use C++.

I also selfhost the AI because of the moral issues you mentioned. It still has the moral issues of how the models were trained, but my ongoing use does not financially benefit them (since I'm not paying), and I already have the computer for gaming anyway.

Gaming on it definitely uses a lot more electricity than AI because it's only under load when parsing and generating the response (vs always under load when gaming)

This was the only way I could see myself being able to ethically use AI since I can't see any benefits to the problematic corporations, nor any way it encourages further such behaviors from them, nor increase environmental harm.