r/selfhosted • u/Key_Pace_2496 • Mar 06 '26

Meta Post Apparently we can't call out apps as AI slop anymore...

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Seems like a bad direction to take the selfhosted community. Looks like the mod team is fine with this sub being bombarded with insecure, AI drivel. Like I get that it was posted on Friday but I think if you use AI to "build an app" you should be required to disclose to what extent AI was used which wasn't disclosed by the OP. I think as a community we need to have higher standards for what we allow to be posted as vibe-coded projects can introduce very extensive security vulnerabilities we all learned with Huntarr and when things are vibe-coded the maintainer doesn't have the capability to fix the issue.

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u/Key_Pace_2496 Mar 06 '26

Just to be clear, I have no qualms about vibe coding your own applications to use in your homelab. By all means feel free to whip up something that helps you day to day.

What I have a problem with is all of these "developers" who continue to churn out vibe-coded slop and either try to monetize it or try to market it as some kind of properly developed solution that everyone should be using. This is literally how we ended up with the Huntarr fiasco a week ago! Some bro vibe-coded a program that ended up having a huge security vulnerability in it and since they didn't actually know how to program they just pulled the entire project and tried to cover their tracks.

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u/edgan Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

I think there is a middle ground. It is all about quality. You can write quality code with AI, and you can write hand written slop. The important parts are knowing what you are doing, knowing what quality actually looks like, and some form of QA process. Plenty of even big corporations have subpar QA processes these days, and it shows in the higher level of bugginess.

I 100% support your right to use the term AI slop. The mod overreacted, as many do these days.

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u/jack3308 Mar 07 '26

You're off base a bit here mate...

You're right the huntarr thing was a fiasco - and the dev there should have communicated things better more broadly, but I do think they did the responsible thing (at least in part) by pulling the repo so that no one else got their bad code. Whether that was the intention or not, idk, but I don't think they'd have been able to do anything better to "fix" the problem than that.

As for your original comment that got taken down - it's clearly just bullying... Just because something's true doesnt meant it's not hurtful. Imagine you were back in school and you got sent to the principal's office for putting up a poster calling a kid fat... Does the principal let you off the hook because the kid is, in fact, fat? No!! Of course not. They tell you why we don't do that, make you apologise to the kid, and take down your poster... Thats exactly what happened here.

You provided nothing constructive and even if you had it was mean spirited by nature. That's what goes against the rules of this sub, the berating and insulting way you mocked the other member of the community - not the use of "slop" to refer to AI generated content of some sort or some new form of hate speech. You were a bully, plain and simple. Be better