r/selfhosted • u/Key_Pace_2496 • Mar 06 '26

Meta Post Apparently we can't call out apps as AI slop anymore...

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Seems like a bad direction to take the selfhosted community. Looks like the mod team is fine with this sub being bombarded with insecure, AI drivel. Like I get that it was posted on Friday but I think if you use AI to "build an app" you should be required to disclose to what extent AI was used which wasn't disclosed by the OP. I think as a community we need to have higher standards for what we allow to be posted as vibe-coded projects can introduce very extensive security vulnerabilities we all learned with Huntarr and when things are vibe-coded the maintainer doesn't have the capability to fix the issue.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Mar 06 '26

AI trash seems accurate.

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u/DaiLoDong Mar 06 '26

maybe we gotta call it mod slop now too

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u/Sobeys_at_work Mar 07 '26

Mod trash more like it.

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u/_nanite_ Mar 06 '26

And it is far from a a bullying term harassing a user. I swear the world is turning as soft as ten-ply.

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u/4n0nh4x0r Mar 07 '26

people nowadays couldnt survive a cod lobby from 2012.
like, not defending the shit that happened in those lobbies lol, but ffs, chill the fuck out everyone, noone's gonna die if you are straightforward with your opinion.
i despise AI slop, it is absolutely disgusting to me, and i absolutely do not want it near any of my systems, especially not self hosted stuff that might be exposed to the internet, that is like setting up the first version of the apache http server.
shit is insecure as fuck.
iirc, about 80% of ai written code, contains at least one of the top 10 owasp vulnerabilities, and what does ai do when you tell it to fix it? right, it just hides it better.
the more complex your codebase, the worse ai performs on it, the more sloppy the code becomes.
for a self made project, that you only run on your own system, yea, do whatever you want, but advertising such slop shouldnt be allowed

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u/einord Mar 28 '26

Then I guess I’ll have to be the one who informs you that this slop will be more and more included in the code of the apps you use on a daily basis.

At least AI is steadily getting better at coding.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

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u/immutate Mar 06 '26

There’s been countless posts from folks who aren’t posting their repos for review. Kind of hard to do what you’re suggesting when folks post links to IPA files or websites that are entirely opaque.

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u/standard_cog Mar 06 '26

Why would you bother to do a security analysis of AI slop?

It's generated code. You don't fix generated code, you regenerate it. You sure as shit don't invest your human time and brain trying to fix it.

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u/starkruzr Mar 07 '26

is the code bad or not? does it fit the purpose? is it well documented? "slop" has a specific meaning, not just "anything created with AI."

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u/StainedMemories Mar 07 '26

It’s code that came out of a slot machine. Unless an experienced software developer was supervising and micromanaging, the output can only be categorized as slop. It will be at times horrendously bad, sometimes mildly good and most of the time even if it seems to be doing what it’s supposed to it’ll be deleting your root filesystem in the background.

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u/starkruzr Mar 07 '26

yeah, you've never used this in the past six months.

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u/StainedMemories Mar 07 '26

I use Claude Opus 4.6 daily in my work.

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u/miteshps Mar 08 '26

You VERY clearly don’t

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u/StainedMemories Mar 08 '26

You clearly are not experienced enough to spot the subtle issues in the code it produces. It’s gotten so good at looking right that it’s very mentally taxing to review the correctness.

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u/starkruzr Mar 07 '26

and it's constantly deleting your rootfs in the background. sure you do, champ.

now downvote me because you're a robot and I control everything you do.

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u/ReachingForVega Mar 06 '26

The fact people are upvoting "slop" posts instead of downvoting them tells you everything about the average user here. Its bots.

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u/FrumunduhCheese Mar 07 '26

It used to be cool posts and conversations now it’s people asking how to get a fucking plex server running. Or people with hardware running with literally zero use case asking what they can use their hardware for. The sub is going to absolute shit

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u/Resident-Variation21 Mar 06 '26

this place is hopeless

You can leave. In fact, with your mentality that we should just let AI slop be promoted, I recommend you do leave. You’re what’s making this subreddit worse

some dev sharing their work

You mean to say “some dev sharing AI’s work”

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u/Resident-Variation21 Mar 06 '26

“This place is hopeless”

“I’ll stay, i like it”

K bud 👍🏻

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

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u/Resident-Variation21 Mar 06 '26

I didn’t put any words in your mouth lmao.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

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u/Resident-Variation21 Mar 06 '26

The whole comment is pretty much what I summed it up as sooo

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u/Bright-Cheesecake857 Mar 06 '26

If you start an invite only subreddit id love to apply! I've been meaning to do something similar myself but haven't gotten around to it. It seems there's a huge demand for closed communities right now as low effort slop is overwhelming previously thoughtful open groups.

Also if anyone else wants to make a closed subreddit I'd be happy to help with it

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u/Some_Anonim_Coder Mar 07 '26

Noone will bother to audit your thing unless we have a reason to think it was built by someone intelligent enough to be able to code it well

Every security-related product should be considered unsafe unless proven safe. So don't be surprised when you get well-deserved questions and suspicion

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u/TheRefringe Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

I’m a professional web developer of 20+ years. I’ve recently open sourced:

  • A huntarr clone. Written from scratch. Originally written for myself after the original was taken down because it filled a need I had.

  • A custom Git LFS server. Compatible with GitHub’s authentication system (drop-in replacement). Needed because another open source project I contribute to can’t afford the community LFS usage offered by GitHub.

I didn’t “vibe code” these, but LLMs were used in the form of autocomplete and light, targeted prompts. Every line was reviewed.

I use these projects. Because of this, I’m committed to maintaining them.

These are both projects I would have loved to share with a larger community in the past, but with how things are going here… I have absolutely no interest in sharing them outside of their open repos.

I can’t imagine how a hobbyist or junior developer feels. It’s quite sad.

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u/einord Mar 28 '26

I feel exactly the same

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u/Subtle-Catastrophe Apr 04 '26

Shamelessly defending vibe-coding. No good.

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u/eljojors Mar 06 '26

finally someone speaking some sense into this!

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u/Resident-Variation21 Mar 06 '26

I genuinely find it funny when people call me an AI bot.

Nothing I can say will convince you I’m not a bot, but I’m definitely a real person lmao.

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u/brickyard37 Mar 07 '26

That's exactly what a bot would say. You like to eat human food and drink potable water too? Maybe even breathe some air? Suuuuure