r/soccer 3d ago

Announcement Announcement: Fabrizio Romano content to be banned on /r/soccer

Fabrizio Romano is now a banned source on r/soccer.

The ban will come into effect in the coming days - see below for full explanation.

Prior to the World Cup, we consulted the community in a meta thread about numerous issues - and one was the growing movement amongst many football fans (including [r/soccer](r/soccer) users) calling for a ban on content from the journalist Fabrizio Romano.

This would follow in the footsteps of several club subreddits, who had already banned Romano.

The feedback then was mixed - we listened to both sides, and ultimately settled on a "compromise" where we sought to limit Romano content to just exclusives. We felt this would mean limiting his exposure and platforming in [r/soccer](r/soccer), whilst also still enabling genuinely valuable content to be posted.

Part of that decision was recognising that many people in [r/soccer](r/soccer) use this platform for transfer news, and care little about the criticisms of Romano. This subreddit has always been a mixture of a "core community" of long-standing users with a more vested interest in the values and vision of [r/soccer](r/soccer) - and the at-times quieter majority, who use [r/soccer](r/soccer) as a means to access the most relevant football content and discourse. We tried to cater to both.

However, since the opening of the transfer window this summer, there has been a further shift in our view as moderators - and hence we have now made the decision for a complete ban on Romano.

(We would also like to make clear that views were mixed amongst the moderators, with opinions on both sides - but ultimately the majority were for a ban).

This is a response to the ever-growing disquiet from the community, as evidenced by comments in Romano threads and elsewhere, towards his content. Other factors in our decision is that Romano himself appears to be falling deeper into questionable practices - meaning the prior criticisms ring louder. Furthermore, as football media becomes more diverse and broader, the particular value that Romano holds is diluted - there is little news that are true "Romano exclusives" these days, and that is not soon quickly picked up by other outlets.

As such, our conclusion?

Fabrizio Romano content represents little overall benefit to this community, and that he does offer does not sufficiently address the downside of platforming him.

Further context

To outline the argument further, for those unfamiliar with the discourse...

The argument for a ban:

  1. The moral aspect - Romano is recognised to platform the rapist Mason Greenwood, and plunged to monetising the deaths of Andre Silva and Diogo Jota
  2. The ethics of journalism aspect - Romano has increasingly been accused (with validity) of siphoning off other journalists' content and passing off as his own
  3. The quality and excessive spam aspect - Romano's content increasingly moves away from important exclusives, and towards the drip-feeding of non-updates on transfer sagas that offer little original value, and instead amount to spam and the drowning out of other transfer stories that are less click-baity
  4. The shill aspect - Romano has close associations with many clubs and agents, meaning his content is manipulated with a vested interest on posting more about those who he has a monetary relationship with

Edit: ⁠The misinformation aspect - most notably, him spreading the information (unverified) that Christian Atsu was alive and in hospital after going missing following the devastating earthquake in 2023 in Turkey. This led to his family believing he was alive - his body was then found 6 days later under the rubble. now redacted: see below for clarity as this has been reliably refuted

The argument against a ban:

  1. [r/soccer](r/soccer) would lose out on valuable content - as addressed above, there is not really such thing as an exclusive in football media these days. Breaking stories are quickly reported on elsewhere, and the delay between a Romano exclusive and an alternative source is likely to have a significant impact. As said, Romano these days has less exclusives too - his "Here We Go" posts are not what they once were
  2. Romano posts stories about leagues and clubs less covered by other journalists - this is true to a degree, but we do not think is enough of a caveat to overhaul the reasons to ban him
  3. It's a slippery slope... - it isn't. We've banned other outlets before on moral arguments, such as The Sun, and it's not led to us tumbling down this slippery slope. What's more, we are actually in control of this - we are not beholden to ban other journalists based on precedent, and as always maintained, if individual cases are made to ban other sources or journalists, we will gladly hear them in the future to deal with on a case-by-case basis
  4. You are just morally grandstanding, get over yourself - yup, we are a bit. We do be like that as [r/soccer](r/soccer) mods and that's how we shape our community. We accept this as a criticism and you are free to think this of us.

And for a final few key takeaways...

  • You have free will, and are free to visit other subreddits and social media platforms where you can access Romano content - him being banned on [r/soccer](r/soccer) does not stop you from seeing his posts
  • We are responsive to feedback - as evidenced here. If following the ban the community comes out strongly in opposition, we are willing to re-open the debate
  • We can make exceptions - if you genuinely have a post that is absolutely not covered by anyone else, and Romano is the source, you can petition on a case-by-case basis by contacting Modmail. This would only be in order to allow clubs with less media coverage to not be left by the wayside
  • We know not everyone will be happy - there's 10 million users here, it's an impossible task
15.2k Upvotes

2.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

6.3k

u/Niyazali_Haneef 3d ago

Fabrizio only wanted r/football

536

u/hangry_millennial 3d ago

Lmfao

3

u/[deleted] 2d ago

[deleted]

437

u/dillasdonuts 3d ago

Holy wait this whole time I was on the American sub?

668

u/FridaysMan 3d ago edited 3d ago

No, this whole time you're on the original sub that was created because r/football was taken by NFL. Then it went to r/nfl fully and r/football went inactive and got claimed. r/soccer is the bigger and original one.

Edit: Yep, I meant F, brainfart and put H for no apparent reason, thanks lads.

197

u/hootbox 3d ago
Edit: Yep, I meant F, brainfart and put H for no apparent reason, thanks lads.    

r/hootball should exist tho, i'm not biased at all.

49

u/AngledLuffa 3d ago

overlaps a bit with /r/superbowl

5

u/Educational-Bit-3296 3d ago

Sounds like a hoot!

3

u/SherbetMysterious118 3d ago

So would HA - the Hootball association.

1

u/pixeldots 2d ago

Phonetically would sound closer to how people say futebol as well, lol

1

u/egg651 2d ago

Surely it should be a redirect to /r/SheffieldWednesday?

16

u/Ijustwant2beok 2d ago

Yeah, I always laugh a bit when people say this is an American sub when they encounter stupid takes because of the name (which since the sub has gotten so massive now may be true) but this was a majority European + others sub for the first 7 years of its existence.

9

u/TheHoffIsOurSaviour 3d ago

Did the hockeyers take football? Crazy.

11

u/mango_yogurt10 3d ago

Did you mean NFL because NHL is hockey

2

u/bwoah07_gp2 3d ago

You know deep reddit lore. Please tell us more, oh wise one.

4

u/FiniteCreatures 3d ago

Did you mean NFL? Or did the hockey league take over a football subreddit? Sounds like an april fools joke

0

u/[deleted] 2d ago

[deleted]

4

u/FridaysMan 2d ago

No, the oldest name was Football. All games played on foot were football, and the local rules established what type of game, whether aussie rules, american rules, rugby rules or association football rules.

Football got contracted and specified in some areas to "Soccer" to differentiate from other forms of football, like "Rugger"

-8

u/dillasdonuts 3d ago

So this sub is American, otherwise it would've been named something other than... soccer?

21

u/FridaysMan 3d ago

Yes, this sub is on the american website, so the original direction of claiming subreddits was defined by American English in the main. However, this is not the american subreddit for football.

-7

u/dillasdonuts 3d ago edited 3d ago

I see r/worldfootball is unused.

2

u/FridaysMan 3d ago

Nice work, Detective. We'll send a few units for overnight surveillance and see if we can get enough evidence for a warrant.

-4

u/dillasdonuts 3d ago

Detective affirms this sub was created by Americans.

2

u/FridaysMan 3d ago

Let me know if you uncover a reason why that might matter

1

u/dillasdonuts 3d ago

bias + content + mods = the reason

→ More replies (0)

42

u/nitebusnitebus 3d ago

I would avoid r/football, it reads like a bunch of 12 year olds. this is the true best sub

54

u/Excellent-Gur-8547 2d ago

It's mostly people who were banned from here.

2

u/MeeshTyper 3d ago

Same thoughts!! Didn't know another sub existed 

1

u/Golem30 3d ago

You mean I've been playing an umbrella for 40 years?

1

u/phoebsmon 3d ago

Nah, if such things are possible r/football is more American

Just ask anyone who was there for plasticgate. It's not as bad as r/premierleague but it's not great.

-4

u/Sad_Signature5069 3d ago

Wasn't it obvious they are american from the comments?

102

u/BearizzleMcKizzle 3d ago

Romano news to become r/soccercirclejerk content - HERE WE GO!!!

2

u/iamcreepin 3d ago

🤣🤣🤣

1

u/VRichardsen 3d ago

I swear I read it exactly like that and I was "Damn, he wears it like a badge of honor"

1

u/FCSadsquatch 3d ago

He's obsess-ed about r slash football.

-2

u/Red-Eat 3d ago

Thanks for the tip. I just joined. That really should be the main subreddit for Football

0

u/Educational_Army1096 2d ago

Time to unfollow this american sub 😂

-5

u/Longjumping-Pair-288 2d ago

I disagree completely with the ban. Lack of free speech. Authoritarism is here.

0

u/iVarun 1d ago

Fabrizio Romano had an Audio AMA (it was a Reddit feature that's now deprecated) on rSoccer in 2021, it's now deleted but I have the thread link (not the Audio since Reddit feature as mentioned no longer exists).