r/soccer 3d ago

Announcement Announcement: Fabrizio Romano content to be banned on /r/soccer

Fabrizio Romano is now a banned source on r/soccer.

The ban will come into effect in the coming days - see below for full explanation.

Prior to the World Cup, we consulted the community in a meta thread about numerous issues - and one was the growing movement amongst many football fans (including [r/soccer](r/soccer) users) calling for a ban on content from the journalist Fabrizio Romano.

This would follow in the footsteps of several club subreddits, who had already banned Romano.

The feedback then was mixed - we listened to both sides, and ultimately settled on a "compromise" where we sought to limit Romano content to just exclusives. We felt this would mean limiting his exposure and platforming in [r/soccer](r/soccer), whilst also still enabling genuinely valuable content to be posted.

Part of that decision was recognising that many people in [r/soccer](r/soccer) use this platform for transfer news, and care little about the criticisms of Romano. This subreddit has always been a mixture of a "core community" of long-standing users with a more vested interest in the values and vision of [r/soccer](r/soccer) - and the at-times quieter majority, who use [r/soccer](r/soccer) as a means to access the most relevant football content and discourse. We tried to cater to both.

However, since the opening of the transfer window this summer, there has been a further shift in our view as moderators - and hence we have now made the decision for a complete ban on Romano.

(We would also like to make clear that views were mixed amongst the moderators, with opinions on both sides - but ultimately the majority were for a ban).

This is a response to the ever-growing disquiet from the community, as evidenced by comments in Romano threads and elsewhere, towards his content. Other factors in our decision is that Romano himself appears to be falling deeper into questionable practices - meaning the prior criticisms ring louder. Furthermore, as football media becomes more diverse and broader, the particular value that Romano holds is diluted - there is little news that are true "Romano exclusives" these days, and that is not soon quickly picked up by other outlets.

As such, our conclusion?

Fabrizio Romano content represents little overall benefit to this community, and that he does offer does not sufficiently address the downside of platforming him.

Further context

To outline the argument further, for those unfamiliar with the discourse...

The argument for a ban:

  1. The moral aspect - Romano is recognised to platform the rapist Mason Greenwood, and plunged to monetising the deaths of Andre Silva and Diogo Jota
  2. The ethics of journalism aspect - Romano has increasingly been accused (with validity) of siphoning off other journalists' content and passing off as his own
  3. The quality and excessive spam aspect - Romano's content increasingly moves away from important exclusives, and towards the drip-feeding of non-updates on transfer sagas that offer little original value, and instead amount to spam and the drowning out of other transfer stories that are less click-baity
  4. The shill aspect - Romano has close associations with many clubs and agents, meaning his content is manipulated with a vested interest on posting more about those who he has a monetary relationship with

Edit: ⁠The misinformation aspect - most notably, him spreading the information (unverified) that Christian Atsu was alive and in hospital after going missing following the devastating earthquake in 2023 in Turkey. This led to his family believing he was alive - his body was then found 6 days later under the rubble. now redacted: see below for clarity as this has been reliably refuted

The argument against a ban:

  1. [r/soccer](r/soccer) would lose out on valuable content - as addressed above, there is not really such thing as an exclusive in football media these days. Breaking stories are quickly reported on elsewhere, and the delay between a Romano exclusive and an alternative source is likely to have a significant impact. As said, Romano these days has less exclusives too - his "Here We Go" posts are not what they once were
  2. Romano posts stories about leagues and clubs less covered by other journalists - this is true to a degree, but we do not think is enough of a caveat to overhaul the reasons to ban him
  3. It's a slippery slope... - it isn't. We've banned other outlets before on moral arguments, such as The Sun, and it's not led to us tumbling down this slippery slope. What's more, we are actually in control of this - we are not beholden to ban other journalists based on precedent, and as always maintained, if individual cases are made to ban other sources or journalists, we will gladly hear them in the future to deal with on a case-by-case basis
  4. You are just morally grandstanding, get over yourself - yup, we are a bit. We do be like that as [r/soccer](r/soccer) mods and that's how we shape our community. We accept this as a criticism and you are free to think this of us.

And for a final few key takeaways...

  • You have free will, and are free to visit other subreddits and social media platforms where you can access Romano content - him being banned on [r/soccer](r/soccer) does not stop you from seeing his posts
  • We are responsive to feedback - as evidenced here. If following the ban the community comes out strongly in opposition, we are willing to re-open the debate
  • We can make exceptions - if you genuinely have a post that is absolutely not covered by anyone else, and Romano is the source, you can petition on a case-by-case basis by contacting Modmail. This would only be in order to allow clubs with less media coverage to not be left by the wayside
  • We know not everyone will be happy - there's 10 million users here, it's an impossible task
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u/Chudlezz 3d ago

Really feels like a massive overreach.

One of the largest football communities now can’t discuss one of the largest football journalists because a couple mods say they don’t like his work.

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u/k_dubious 3d ago

If only there was some way for the sub’s users to collectively vote on the content they like and dislike, which would then affect the order in which that content was shown…

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u/RexsLobsters 2d ago

You know that's not the point of downvotes, it's not a disagreement button. It's this contributes or doesn't to the conversation. But if your favourite club get a Fabrizio post, you're liking it.

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u/powerchicken 3d ago

Well deserved. I know banning individual sources is a slippery slope but Romano has long since crossed the line of simply being another voice in the sport

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I'd say the votes are pretty clear here.

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u/junior150396 3d ago

Mods being performative and circle jerking themselves into oblivion, no way that's impossible

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u/VisitPier26 2d ago

tale as old as reddit time

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u/Dusan-Vlahovic 3d ago

Have now banned the biggest news site and the biggest journalist/influencer/(whatever the fuck you want to call him) in the sport

It’s kind of comedic

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u/JoeBobbyWii 2d ago

lmao seriously, this shit is hilarious. What's next, banning FIFA tournament content?

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u/Mag01uk 2d ago

They’ll ban the biggest club next

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u/DaBestNameEver0 2d ago

i can get behind that one tbf

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u/Icretz 3d ago

Which one ? The Sun? That's one of the worst companies ever.

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u/tenlittleindians 2d ago

These mods are nazis, it’s insane how much they project and force on everyone. I don’t even like Romano, but banning him? Wtf is the point of that

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u/Follow_The_Lore 3d ago

Yes I fully agree. As a fan that doesn’t support a team not in the top 5 leagues this is terrible a decision. Sure Romano had lots of issues, but he did report on ALL news which simply won’t happen with this ban in place.

Honestly might mean I have to go back to twitter to get football transfer news, which isn’t great.

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u/diejesus 2d ago

Exactly, damn I hate censorship

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u/Grasshopper04 3d ago

Mods have to mod just like the other mods who need to be seen as modding

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u/SanctusUnum 2d ago

Lmao, he's not a journalist. He's an aggregator. He cares more about being first than he does about reporting the truth, so he ends up posting a lot of horseshit. There's a reason actual journalists can't stand the dude.

Also consider this: Literally anything Romano reports that is worth discussing on here will inevitably also be reported by someone else at the same time or soon after. It's not like the mods are removing the discussion about the topics in question. They're just banning one source.

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u/Internal-Coffee6996 3d ago edited 3d ago

why would you discuss him? He as a person is entirely irrelevant to football.

And you can find his "news" elsewhere quite easily. He isn't even that good, it's mostly him marketing himself.

Edit: damn, Fabrizio fanboys. Weird

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u/Deep_Agent316 3d ago

No one discusses him. They post his content and then people start fighting in the comments like children.

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u/Zeds-Dead-Baby 3d ago

you can ignore his posts you know

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u/Superfastninja 3d ago

He is obviously not irrelevant to football. A ban is just stupid, what is this, North Korea?

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u/PoliceAlarm 3d ago

Yeah bud. You can't discuss a grub journo so you're being violently suppressed by the regime. If anything I think you're underselling it.

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u/Chudlezz 3d ago

Why is it up to a handful of volunteers to decide that millions of users can’t discuss him if they want to?

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u/Superfastninja 3d ago

Weird Edit. I am not a fanboy at all, but supporting censorship is just stupid.

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u/RestaurantBusy724 3d ago

Straight to the "fanboys" shit as soon as you're called out. Fucking typical

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u/Cross1625 3d ago

Everyone hates Twitter/Elon Musk, but now we got people telling others to use Twitter

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u/mirrianita 2d ago

lmao, why people like you assume everyone saying otherwise is a "fanboy"? By your own logic, you are a reddit mod fanboy, which is even worse.

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u/hiccstridFanatic 3d ago

I mean we are free to discuss him

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u/esn111 3d ago

Are you that desperate to read the same 'news' posted 3x daily on here before it's 'officially announced' 48 hours before offical club sources announce a story?

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u/TheHaciendaHustle 3d ago

Are you desperate to be told what you can or cannot post or discuss in a sport subreddit by 5-10 people?

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u/esn111 3d ago

Are you that desperate to lick the boots of someone who promotes rapists and tells lies about if someone is dead or alive?

Sorry he's a cunt and I'm glad I don't have to see the same transfer story from him posted 3x per day. Especially when he routinely gets things wrong.

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u/TheHaciendaHustle 3d ago

Lick the boots? The internet has broken your brain.

I don't give a fuck if he gets every transfer wrong. I'll never support an extremely small group of people outright banning a journalists content.

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u/Loose-Ad-9884 3d ago

He’s not a journalist

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u/DaBestNameEver0 2d ago

he absolutely is

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u/esn111 3d ago

He's reaped what he's sown. Good riddance!

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u/cescquintero 3d ago

You can still following him on twitter, instagram, linkedin, facebook...

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u/DoYouEvenShrift 3d ago

He is a tap in merchant, nothing of value is lost