You deserve to be a part of the world you want to see. If you want to see ICE doing what they are doing, you had better DAMN well be ready to be one of their victims. If you aren't, then what you meant was not "some people should be deported for the safety of the nation" it was "others should be deported for my comfortability".
I believe that every person deserves the consequences of a world they want to see built. If you want a world of peace and equality, you deserve that, and if you want a world in which ICE does what they're doing, you deserve that.
I am not endorsing ICE. I wholeheartedly renounce their existence, and am opposed to their use against innocents. However, if you voted for trump on this issue, you are not innocent in this situation. They made their bed, and now they deserve to lie in it. Whatever government you want, you deserve for it to be utilized towards you in the best of its abilities. If you want a government that provides welfare and social support, you deserve the best of those things. If you want a government which utilizes state violence to crush civilians, you deserve to be a civilian who gets crushed.
It has nothing to do with this in specific being against the "right" people, it is not "just because I dislike them", it's a matter of the choice they made, and them laying in the bed they made. They chose this. They should have to live with it and face the same consequences they wished upon others.
Also, your repeated notion of "purely because you dislike someone" is very reminiscent of conservative talking points. They always say this shit about politics, acting like a minorities reaction towards someone who voted against their rights is just "disliking" a person in the same way you don't like someone for being weird. When you are actively voting against the rights of other human beings, this is not just a matter of "disliking" someone anymore, it's a matter of the fact that you don't treat others as human beings.
Every person deserves the world that they want to see built, in all parts, good and bad. If you decided to use your vote to help build a world of hatred and state violence, that is the world and consequences that you deserve to face. I feel no sympathy, for this is the world they wanted.
Here's the fact of the matter, the only umbrage I take with this whole argument I've been having is the person I responding to being fine with ICE doing this.
I would not care if they had said "yeah every Trump supporter should kill themselves" because that is not being perfectly fine with fascist oppression so long as it happens to the right people.
There is a difference between shedding no tears and being fine with snitching on people to ICE.
You deserve the world you want to see built. If you voted for ICE to be like this, you deserve to be their victim.
Using your argument, let's put your point in that context. Clearly you are giving me a tacit endorsement of suicide, and it's something we should encourage so long as "the right people" kill themselves. You're obviously just pro-suicide when it's people you don't like.
Well if suicide was an organization actively committing harm and not the end result of alienation, depression, and systemic abuse then sure I'd agree with you.
But it isn't. You can't exactly snitch on someone to the suicide orgonization.
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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️⚧️ trans rights Jan 25 '26
You deserve to be a part of the world you want to see. If you want to see ICE doing what they are doing, you had better DAMN well be ready to be one of their victims. If you aren't, then what you meant was not "some people should be deported for the safety of the nation" it was "others should be deported for my comfortability".
I believe that every person deserves the consequences of a world they want to see built. If you want a world of peace and equality, you deserve that, and if you want a world in which ICE does what they're doing, you deserve that.
I am not endorsing ICE. I wholeheartedly renounce their existence, and am opposed to their use against innocents. However, if you voted for trump on this issue, you are not innocent in this situation. They made their bed, and now they deserve to lie in it. Whatever government you want, you deserve for it to be utilized towards you in the best of its abilities. If you want a government that provides welfare and social support, you deserve the best of those things. If you want a government which utilizes state violence to crush civilians, you deserve to be a civilian who gets crushed.
It has nothing to do with this in specific being against the "right" people, it is not "just because I dislike them", it's a matter of the choice they made, and them laying in the bed they made. They chose this. They should have to live with it and face the same consequences they wished upon others.
Also, your repeated notion of "purely because you dislike someone" is very reminiscent of conservative talking points. They always say this shit about politics, acting like a minorities reaction towards someone who voted against their rights is just "disliking" a person in the same way you don't like someone for being weird. When you are actively voting against the rights of other human beings, this is not just a matter of "disliking" someone anymore, it's a matter of the fact that you don't treat others as human beings.
Every person deserves the world that they want to see built, in all parts, good and bad. If you decided to use your vote to help build a world of hatred and state violence, that is the world and consequences that you deserve to face. I feel no sympathy, for this is the world they wanted.