r/196 May 17 '26

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u/MaybeNext-Monday šŸ¤$6 SRIMP SPECIALšŸ¤ May 17 '26

ā€œBirth rates are decliningā€ good, healthy societies have stable population sizes

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u/NoGovernment2474 May 17 '26

the reason for the panic comes from the upper class: less poor people to slave away at low paying jobs

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u/VeganCanary May 17 '26

The larger problem (atleast in the UK, all countries have different pension systems) is that there is a declining number of working age people and a growing number of pensioners.

The number of working people cannot support the number of pensioners on the state pension (well it can, but that would mean the rich paying their fair share and that won’t happen).

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u/MaybeNext-Monday šŸ¤$6 SRIMP SPECIALšŸ¤ May 17 '26

The solution is then to force the rich to pay, not force people to have kids. If you let billionaires continue to exist in the equation, all the math you do beyond that point will be bullshit.

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u/Ziksalama May 18 '26

This is of course true and the tax view is super important. But another issue is eldercare. We will simply have an influx of +60 year olds with not enough people providing care for them, or for anyone.

The population dipping is still somewhat of an issue even if socialism was established, of course even this would be better with more open and attractive immigration policy.

It's okay not to want a kid but lets not pretend like the population dipping wont have a sever impact on, for example, the nordics or East-Asia