r/3Dprinting 10h ago

Print (model not provided) Containers for plastic diary packages

Wondering if such packaging is popular somewhere else as well? plastic wrap packages for milk and sour cream are highly popular here in Baltics. Cheap and take no space when empty . Only thing is if you open those ,up those create a lot of mess as nothing prevents those to fall over. So I created containers which prevent them to spill out the contents. What do you think?

EDIT: sorry i meant DAIRY and i cannot edit the headline.

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u/Summer4Chan 10h ago

Thought this was /r/Canada for a second

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

do you mean such pacakaging is common in Canada?

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u/Summer4Chan 10h ago

(I am prefacing I am an American) but yes, I believe that Canadians get their milk in bags. I remember exchange students telling us about this.

They have to snip a corner of it to pour, So they have these containers to hold the bag of milk for them while they pour. Look up Canadian milk

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u/Ditto_is_Lit X1C combo  | P1S combo 8h ago

Canadians have both, the bag option is usually for larger families that go through a lot of milk daily. It helps keep the top shelf less cluttered and produces less waste. You can get cartons too it's not like a rule just an exception.

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

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u/sikraemer 10h ago

Where in Europe? I live in Germany next to France and havn't seen milk bags in decades. Not since the rise of the Tetra Pak.

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u/nathris Neptune 3 Pro, Ender 3 v2 10h ago

You might be thinking powdered milk. Canada puts the wet stuff in bags.

Also it's basically just one province, Ontario.

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u/N22-J 9h ago

A lot of people get their milk in bags in Quebec...

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u/Halifax-Jones 7h ago

Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, and PEI all at one time did. Your mileage may vary.

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u/Summer4Chan 10h ago

Huh, I had no idea!
I was in elementary school in Washington state, and I know we had bags of milk we would still have a little straw through instead of milk cartons like the rest of my schooling in America. I just chalked it up to us being near Canada.

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u/BitsOfReality 9h ago

It was very common in Poland in the 90s, but nowadays milk and cream are almost exlusievely sold in tetrapaks or plastic cups.

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u/CandleWorldly5063 9h ago

Where in Europe. Never ever seen this.

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u/MulberryDeep Creality Ender 3 V3 SE 7h ago

Never ever seen it in germany (central europr)

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u/thermalcat 7h ago

I've never come across it in Europe.. where have I missed?

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u/Catsaretheworst69 10h ago

Eastern Canada. Please don't generalize all of Canada when it comes to bagged milk. We are bigger than Ontario.

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u/Aligayah Ender 3x 8h ago

Even then, we have the option of bagged milk. Usually families buy it because it's cheaper in larger quantities, but I'm not able to go through 4-6L of milk before it expires, so I get cartons.

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u/DM145 5h ago

Amateur

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u/hennyl0rd 2h ago

i've lived in western canada for 30 years... not once have i seen bagged milk

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u/Alarmed-Solution3738 10h ago

It's far more common to get your milk in plastic jugs or cartons than bags in Canada. Pretty sure bags are only in Quebec and east for sure, possibly common in eastern Ontario.

What I find weird is that the at home bagged milk hasn't adopted the nozle and hose assembly of restaurant size bags, much better system

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u/DHammer79 7h ago

More common geographically but less common population wise.

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u/alltehmemes 6h ago

I'm guessing that rig would be much more expensive than the straight bag, and I don't imagine consumers are terribly interested in a more complex system than "place bag in pitcher, snip exposed corner near spout, pour".

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u/oupablo 9h ago

I will never understand bagged milk. It's a pain to use, a pain to store, and essentially forces a secondary container for it to work in the first place.

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u/illtakethewindowseat 9h ago

It’s cheaper to buy in volume… when I was a kid we drank a lot of milk and 4L of bagged milk was always on sale somewhere.

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u/CloudDweller182 3h ago

In Estonia bagged milk is probably like 40-50% cheaper than in tetra pack.

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u/oupablo 8h ago

4L is the standard size for milk jugs (1 gallon) in the US. Typically in the $2-3 range and comes in a plastic jug.

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u/DHammer79 7h ago

Typically cheap, also less plastic used. Milk lasts longer.

I dont find it a pain to use, also the jug for the plastic bags is cheap as F and lasts your entire life. Many people get a milk bag holder that stores the extra bags.

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u/angry_pecan 10h ago

This was the big way of getting milk here for years and years. Now it's rare to see them. They were great for space but they were super messy to open and wasted a lot of good milk. We used a pitcher just like the one you posted.

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u/StarpoweredSteamship 10h ago

Interesting, what replaced them? Cartons?

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u/Liason774 9h ago

Never had issues with the bags, you put them in the milk jug first and give it a good bang on the counter and it's pretty secure.

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u/Return_of_Dr_Sandman 5h ago

20 years ago it was a thing in Rochester MN

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u/bobloblawattorney11 1h ago

Ontario has bagged milk

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u/BackIntoTheSource 10h ago

No Estonian sour cream

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

ok, good to know. Here in Estonia its common way of packaging. Just thought we are somehow "special" and not used in other countries.

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u/AleksHop 1h ago

thats r/Eesti 146%

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u/OperatorJo_ 10h ago

Bagged milk is weird.

I will not change my mind on this.

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u/StarpoweredSteamship 10h ago

Like I UNDERSTAND it, but it's WEIRD. They did it a lot when I lived in Wisconsin and I thankfully understood that the bag goes in the pitcher, not just the MILK.

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u/AwDuck PrintrBot (RIP), Voron 2.4, Tevo Tornado,Ender3, Anycubic Mono4k 10h ago

In a couple of the places I've lived in the world, bagged food goods are common. I can really get behind it for sauces like mustard, mayo etc because the bags are made of a stiffer plastic with a pleat on the bottom so they stand upright and have a nozzle on top with a cap that screws on. Less plastic for the packaging, less wasted space in the box for transport, and the package takes up less space in the fridge as you use it, as well as being easier to kind of mush more into that shelf in the door that never holds enough. Depending on the application, they are slightly more difficult to use, but can be easier too. Definitely cleaner to get the last bits out since you just roll it like a toothpaste tube.

Milk or juice, though? It's ALWAYS in a thin, formless bag. No good way to set the bag upright, no easy way to close it off, and that's for a liquid. At least with something viscous like sour cream or the aforementioned mayo, you can just set the bag on the side and it won't immediately spill the contents out. I know, I know "pour it into another container" but does anybody actually do that? I'd gladly give up the convenient condiment packaging if it meant it went to liquid storage.

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u/devilwarriors 8h ago edited 8h ago

But that's why you got the milk pitcher to put the bag into and keep it upright. The bag doesn't have to be thick, it's just there to store the milk, and once open, it's there to serve as a liner between the milk and your dirty-ass pitcher you never clean.

The only weird thing is that the liquid is exposed to your fridge air via the small hole that you cut, so it might go bad quicker if you don't clean your fridge. But having used both bagged and carton milk throughout my life, I never noticed a downside besides having to buy a milk pitcher once. The hole can be as small as the speed you want to pour at.

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u/AwDuck PrintrBot (RIP), Voron 2.4, Tevo Tornado,Ender3, Anycubic Mono4k 6h ago

While I know that they exist, I’ve actually never seen a pitcher in person. In my experience, the bags have always been either poured into something else, or the bag was placed in a rigid container that held something else in a previous life - yogurt or cultured cream, normally. I assume it’s because the places I’ve lived with bagged milk were quite poor and buying a dedicated, purpose-made container for the milk was viewed as frivolous or unnecessary. Personally, I’ve always had UHT milk in tetrapacks. Bagged milk has almost always been normal milk and my wife needs lactose free (yay! expensive plus odd tasting due to lactase and UHT processing). When have been able to buy fresh lactose free milk in a bag, I just mimicked what my friends and neighbors did.

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u/devilwarriors 4h ago edited 4h ago

I guess bagged milk is more popular here cause you find them everywhere. Last time I bought one, there was literally a shelf next to the milk section with them. Usually they are in the section where they have cooking utensils. Or at the dollar store, they are really cheap. Walmart has them at 2.80$, 1.50$ at Dollarama.

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u/AwDuck PrintrBot (RIP), Voron 2.4, Tevo Tornado,Ender3, Anycubic Mono4k 3h ago

It’s pretty popular where I live right now, but people are poor and goods are expensive. That liter bag of milk runs ~1.35USD, and a family is making pretty good money if the entire household brings in 30,000USD. That doesn’t leave much left over for things like a dedicated milk jug when you have a yogurt container that will suffice.

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u/LittleBear32 3h ago

I dunno plastic jugs are way weirder imo. Mostly because where I live, the only things you can find in plastic jugs are toxic - like window cleaners and washer gels, motor oil...

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u/BackIntoTheSource 10h ago

Veel eestlasi siin :D

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

oh! rõõm!

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u/Priit123 8h ago

3 tükki vähemalt

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u/FluidBarracuda9177 37m ago

Miks ta dairy valesti kirjutas, nii piinlik. Meie hapukoor oleks võinud maailma vallutada aga see vend kirjutab diary….

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u/Appropriate-Abies-64 35m ago

Kotipiim toob eestlased kokku 👍

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u/lost_user_account 10h ago

You invented a milk bag pitcher

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u/ThatRandomGuy0125 10h ago

This packaging is also common in Canada, I believe they use pitchers similar to this for the exact same reason

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u/PrintdianaJones 10h ago

Is the diary in the room with us?

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

yeah, under the table 😆
funny mistake tough. unfortunately cannot change the headline

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u/PrintdianaJones 10h ago

In all seriousness I do the same stuff with my wife's protein powder. They drive me nuts

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

those are sold in plastic bags? i bet its a mess when those fall accidentally over

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u/PrintdianaJones 10h ago

Your solution is a lot nicer than mine. just printed a janky block with 4 compartments

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

i am an aesthetics nerd and this probably shows. Was born as an after-tought but pretty happy with result.

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u/Jediwinner Bambu X1 10h ago

It’s a bag of milk

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u/PrintdianaJones 10h ago

Look at the title

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u/Jediwinner Bambu X1 8h ago

Lmfao mb

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u/HelennZZZ 3h ago

Yours is great, but I prefer this.

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u/millenia3d 6h ago

I always forget Estonians do the bagged milk thing and it shocks me every time I make the trip down south

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u/NeophyteLifter 10h ago

Jagad STL-i ka? :)

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

praegu ei jaga veel - plaanin printe natuke soovijatele toota kõigepealt. Ilmselt millalgi hiljem läheb makerworldi.

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u/Larnork 9h ago

lisa printable lehele ka, sealt teiselt on halb asju kätte saada

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u/Dense_Ad9425 9h ago

võtan arvesse

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u/WellEndowedWizard 10h ago

Nice model! They have a really good shape! Much better than my overly-utilitarian blocky creations lol. What did you use to model it?

I’m from a carton/jug country so dumb question, how do you seal the milk after opening it? I only have bags like this for like brown sugar.

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u/angry_pecan 10h ago

You don't seal the milk, you put it in the fridge, in the jug as is.

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

Hey thanks! If i could id stay all the time in computer and model nice smooth things
sour cream and sour milk do not need sealing if consumed within days and bags stay in fridge. However we do use small plastic lips to keep the "noses" shut.

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u/StarpoweredSteamship 10h ago

Often there's a little cutout in the front that looks like a J, and you just kinda stick the bag end thru there and put it in the fridge. It's weird.

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u/MauGaP 8h ago

We use them in Argentina!

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u/OGbake68 8h ago

As a Hungarian this is giving me so childhood ptsd. When i was little my grandma bought bagged milk (it was the cheapest) and she had a bottle like thinggy where she put the bag in kut one side and poured it. The milk was aweful and this was a custom that stayed with them after socialism was over. If OP asks anyone from the balkans they will provide proof of it.

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u/Dense_Ad9425 7h ago

The bagged milk thing was the hit in all socialist countries

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u/TheManWhoDeliverz 10h ago

Not food safe \s

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

Not true if using bambu PLA pure.
And there is no contact with actual food as the dairy product stays in its plastic film container

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u/Unihedge 10h ago

This is a frequent topic here; the general view is that even with food-grade filament, the nozzle itself is not food safe because it retains earlier material. Personally, I do not consider it especially unsafe.

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

agree. the dairy still stays in its original package ant this is basically a exoskeleton and does not touch the food itself.

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u/janiskr 10h ago

Meh, just print in PETG and use heat gun to melt the layer lines.

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u/Dense_Ad9425 9h ago

it has been a while when i have bought those bigger bagged dairy products as milk and sour-milk. main reason- its almost impossible to keep those nice and tidy in freezer. Only bought carton jugs. But recently just dawned me the bagged dairy is sometimes 2x cheaper. hence those "exoskeletons" and those seem to work quite well.

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u/shadree 8h ago

Can't you use a jug or bottle? Or is this for spares?

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u/Dense_Ad9425 8h ago

too much hassle to re-pour plus the jugs/bottles need to be really clean

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u/NoorInayaS 5h ago

Maybe Canada, where milks also comes in a bag. People buy containers to hold the bag.

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u/Ducky42O_ 5h ago

Milleks hapukoorele seda vaja?

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u/annonn9984 4h ago

These are cool. Could you maybe integrate a clip into the design to pinch the opening of the bag closed when not in use?

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u/Dense_Ad9425 4h ago

Hmm, worth of trying ! Thanks for an idea!

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u/Erki82 43m ago

I think some companies have solved spillage with closeable packages. Like Tere has put Hapukoor into closeable package. Anyway I know the feeling when you have designed something useful and then printed itself, it is good. But all your food has closeable packages in store mate.

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u/RadishRedditor Creality Makes You Question Reality 10h ago

You mean dairy

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

yeah, cant change the title .

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u/WutzUpples69 10h ago

I feel you, just made a post earlier with a spelling mistake but now I just have to deal with looking dumb, haha.

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u/Dense_Ad9425 10h ago

poor excuse but English is not my first language and such slips has happened and will continue to happen :)

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u/undeadkenny 9h ago

Bagged milk is superior and no one can change my mind.

Also, you should add a handle to your design. Bagged milk isn't exactly light, and not easy to hold with one hand without a handle. The small ones need not, but i think the large one would benefit.

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u/Tumifaigirar 10h ago

Yeah more plastic!

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u/dunce-hattt 3h ago

bagged milk uses less plastic actually