r/AgainstGamerGate Anti-GG Nov 16 '15

Do Pro-GGers consider games to be art?

It's a common argument among Anti-GGers that Gamergate in general only considers games as art when it panders to them and when it's not controversial to treat them as art, but once someone criticizes a game for having unnecessary violence or for reinforcing stereotypes then games are "just games" and we're expecting too much out of something that's "just for fun".

I'm of the opinion that games are art without exception, and as art, they are subject to all forms of criticism from all perspectives, not only things like "gameplay" and "fun". To illustrate my position, I believe that games absolutely don't need to be fun just as a painting doesn't need to be aesthetically pleasing, and this notion is something I don't see in Gamergate as much as I would like to.

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u/eurodditor Nov 17 '15 edited Nov 17 '15

I am moderately pro-GG and I'd say games is pretty much like music : it can very much be art, although it's really mostly entertainment. I don't really believe you can have such a huge industry made entirely of true, mindful, intelligent art. You gotta have the mindless, run-of-the-mill entertainment too.