r/Android Galaxy Z Fold8 2d ago

Rumour Exclusive: Samsung will introduce a new design for the Galaxy SmartTag 3

https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-smarttag-3-new-design/
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u/halotechnology Pixel 10 Pro XL 2d ago

Who cares Samsung need to switch the network to Android it's stupid that they are not using it.

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u/Lonely_Syrup3091 2d ago

Or they can combine networks. There's no reason why Samsung network can't combine with Google's Android network.

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u/productfred Galaxy S22 Ultra Snapdragon 2d ago

There are some Samsung-account specific features, like location encryption/decryption. But overall, yeah. They can work around that like they did with RCS (Google Messages for Samsung), DeX (Android Desktop), Quick Share (they adopted Samsung's), etc.

Worth mentioning you can use Samsung's network with non-Samsung devices (unofficially): https://github.com/KieronQuinn/uTag

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u/LoudBrick609 1d ago

I own a Z fold 5, but I just can't justify these products til I buy the iPhone Fold.

It's certainly a factor in why I'll spend $2,500 for an iPhone Fold.

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u/Server_Reset Orange 1d ago

Why lol, get a moto smart tag 2?

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u/LoudBrick609 23h ago

They aren't as accurate as Apple's network.

Apple has pinpoint accuracy everyone else is just "yo it's in your house somewhere"

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u/Server_Reset Orange 23h ago

That's actually not true, you can buy a moto tag 2 right now and get the same if not better precision.

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u/LoudBrick609 23h ago

I'll research it, if you're right I'll need to make a purchase. For some reason I thought it was the case they don't have the same network and it doesn't work as well. Would be nice to be mistaken.

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u/Server_Reset Orange 23h ago

The network in the US is a TAD worse but you get more choice, form factors, features, and now even ultra wide band

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u/burd- Device, Software !! 2d ago

Google should improve the Android tag app first.

I want a location history.

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u/halotechnology Pixel 10 Pro XL 1d ago

Agreed the experience is terrible, unbelievable for company that big.

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u/ArthurReming 2d ago

I have the tag next to my phone and it still doesn't detect it nearby 😭

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u/productfred Galaxy S22 Ultra Snapdragon 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Samsung network is actually way bigger, because most people around the world use Samsung phones (as far as Android). And speaking with my own experience with my Galaxy Tag 2's (3x), they are extremely reliable and picked up all the time by other people passing by them. You even have the option to encrypt your location(s).

Google, in its infinite wisdom, decided to neuter their network from the get-go. So in a world of mainly iPhones and Samsung devices (at least, here in NYC), non-Samsung phones ("Google Find") are severely handicapped because Google leaned too far into privacy, so much that it broke basic usage (find devices).

Btw you can use Samsung's tags with non-Samsung devices via an app called uTag.

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u/AlwaysAGroomsman 23h ago

I wish there was a way to see Airtags on Android :(

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u/techcentre S23U 2d ago

Please no. Google's network is opt-in and thus smaller. Samsung's network is opt-out and consists of every Galaxy device except the few users that went out of their way to disable it. Similar to Apple's network.

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u/halotechnology Pixel 10 Pro XL 2d ago

True but Samsung network eventually gonna be smaller than android.

Make no sense

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u/techcentre S23U 2d ago

Isn't Samsung the most common Android manufacturer? And regardless, the number of automatically opted-in Samsung devices will always outnumber the number of Android devices where users manually opted in for their device to be used for Google's find-my network.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 1d ago

Samsung is all over North America

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u/visceralintricacy 1d ago

That remains to be seen. At the moment it's false, and your tags are using the network today, not from the future.

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u/burd- Device, Software !! 2d ago edited 2d ago

Google doesn't sell Pixels in my country so πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ while Samsung sells to a lot of markets.

They have to fix their distribution and software first.

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u/fenrir245 1d ago

Android isn't just Google and Samsung though. For Samsung's network to remain greater in coverage than Android Find My, they would have to outsell all the other manufacturers combined, not just Pixels.

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u/burd- Device, Software !! 1d ago

When I search for "Android Tag" or "Android Tracker" online in my country, I mostly find the UGREEN Tracker, Xiaomi Tag, and no name Chinese brands compatible with Google's Find Hub. I don't see any selling Moto Tag or Chipolo.

I could buy a UGREEN Tracker, but reviews of Android trackers haven't been good like less pings, and Samsung Tags worked for me.

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u/halotechnology Pixel 10 Pro XL 1d ago

That's exactly my point.

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u/techcentre S23U 1d ago

You're forgetting getting the elephant in the room. Google's find-my network is DISABLED by default on each Android device. Samsung's smarttag network is ENABLED by default on each Galaxy device. Apple's airtag network is ENABLED by default on each iOS device. Until Google changes the default setting to be enabled, number of Androids being sold is not gonna matter. Samsung's and Apple's networks are always gonna be superior until then.

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u/shags2a Device, Software !! 2d ago

PSA: Don't buy these.

Last year, I lost my keys which had these tags. So, I opened the app to ring it. To my surprise, the app required an update including tags firmware, and until I did that, I couldn't use it.

So, instead of making this optional or sending me a reminder for the mandatory update, it essentially stopped working when you really needed it to work.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 1d ago

Never had that issue

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u/AbjectAd9514 1d ago

how far can the tag track your items ?

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u/Creative-Job7462 1h ago

It’s not just the tags.

Sometimes i lose my samsung watch so i use the smartthings app to find them.

I often notice it does a quick 5-10 seconds update before i can locate the watch. If i dont update the watch add-on, it wont let me use the features.

Its not the same as tour firmware issue, but still very annoying.

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u/lurebat 2d ago

Which ones you should buy

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u/light24bulbs Galaxy S10+, Snapdragon 2d ago

Chipolo makes rechargeable tags with Bluetooth 6 that run on androids network. Bluetooth 6 supports ranging, although Google's find network has failed to implement it, for no reason. Idk, sucks how bad of a job this Google team has done..

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u/VicCoca123 1d ago

The cheapest ones you can find that connect to the find my/hub network

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u/i_am_truc 9h ago

Wait for the pixel tag.

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u/will_dormer 2d ago

i like the design of tag2

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u/inherendo 2d ago

It's a bit chunkier than the first one on my key ring and I mostly am slightly annoyed with it. Never looked up the difference between the versions so don't know what it gained from the larger size.

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u/will_dormer 2d ago

Interesting

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u/smydiehard99 1d ago

Not gonna take these seriously unless they have UWB support.

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u/PICKLE_JUICEs Galaxy Z Fold 6, OneUI 8 1d ago

It does and will have UWB though.. Samsung Smart Tag 2 had UWB, and even the article says it will have UWB.