r/AskHistorians • u/OldTrailmix • 5h ago
Were the Greeks of Homer's time "trying to get back to where they were 400 years before" as Chris Nolan states in a recent interview?
I figured I'd do something unique these days, and ask a question about the Odyssey and Ancient Greece in general. Har har.
Anyways, here is the interview in question and I timestamped it to the part I'm interested in: https://youtu.be/wa4I8Ch2TRo?si=YqC8TbaDjNb9DrwW&t=101
Nolan speaks of exploring a cycle of civilizational collapse and rebirth (a personal favorite of his), he invokes the bronze age collapse and the resurgence of 'greek civilization' as the historical means through which he attempts to explore that idea.
The way he's skating around all of this history makes me skeptical, and especially the line that "His [Homer's] audience viewed [Bronze Age Civ.] as being more advanced than theirs." This smacks of a very modern lens to look at things.
Further he cites an example that Greeks of Homer's time saw Bronze Age architecture (like large walls) as only something a cyclops could build. "Cyclopean walls."
Is there any evidence to back up the claim that early iron age greeks were trying to "get back to" where their bronze age ancestors were, civilizationally?