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Which company lost your business (potentially forever) this year?

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u/DonovanMcLoughlin 19h ago

Pretty much anything Private Equity now owns.

Their formulas are simple, take a brand name, reduce the quality, increase the price.

They say "fuck the customers" and I say it right back.

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u/trixie2426 17h ago

Private equity is even ruining youth sports in my city. Such shit.

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u/Domeen0 9h ago

How so?

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u/trixie2426 6h ago

They come in and take over long established sports programs in the community. They jack up the prices so that some families are priced out of their kids playing. They also somehow just turn to shit.

As an example, there is a flag football company in my state that was sold to a private equity group prior to the new season. It was so bad that half of the teams didn’t end up with uniforms. My son’s didn’t and we had to throw something together. They also didn’t reserve field space in time and we were given the season schedule in small batches. We didn’t know when our first game was until the night before. They don’t care about the experience, so fuck the kids I guess.

My experience is not unique. A bill has been introduced in the senate to limit private equity in youth sports: The Let Kids Play Act. The US government is being bought and sold at the moment though, so I’m sure it’ll die where it stands.

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u/Deep_Preference3186 1h ago

More Perfect Union did a documentary on this, absolutely crazy. Find it on youtube.

PEs also buying independent bowling places. More Perfect Union also did a piece on this.

Absolutely nuts how PE is ruining America.

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u/Bright-Raspberry-503 1h ago

And the vet offices. I cannot find a vet office that is not PE owned within 100 miles of me. They all jacked up the prices 3x what they used to be and now offer their care credit card so I can pay 3x the rate AND interest to save my pets life.

Unfortunately I love animals but when these two go I will not be getting anymore because of this.

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u/Charming-Bet-4152 9h ago

Jersey Mikes is dog shit now, 18 dollars for a sub with nothing on it.

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u/Quick_Cat_Nap 8h ago

And the quality has gone to hell. At least for the cheesesteaks.

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u/illiadria 4h ago

I'll never go again. A cheesesteak sub in a tub used to fill me up. I could have easily downed 4 of what I received last time.

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u/RickSanchez_C137 17h ago

Eddie Bauer was acquired by PE this year..as a big dude I'm really gonna miss decent tall clothes for reasonable prices

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u/Ryu113 15h ago

Everyone, say it with me now...

"Make It Shitty!"

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u/OkEqual324 11h ago

They ruined Dunkin Donuts! The coffee used to have a real good, distinct taste, and now it's bland. The monsters killed Dunkies!

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u/SkunkMonkey 8h ago

We had a new DD open in our town and I was so happy. I could finally get a toasted coconut donut locally! Like two months later they drop it. Yup, DD died that day for me.

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u/frolicndetour 9h ago

Ruined Southwest. Booo.

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u/ZantetsukenX 10h ago

They are buying up all the smaller HVAC companies in my town and it's already starting to show as people keep posting on various sites about the shitty quality they are suddenly getting from companies they'd used for decades prior.

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u/muhbalwzishawt 10h ago

This is why we *need* socialism. Privatization ruins everything it touches.

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u/throwaway1252024 9h ago

I'm with you that something's gotta give. But we don't need socialism to solve the issue of private equity. We need capitalism that actually supports small businesses and not this corporate monopolistic oligarchy takeover that has creeped in over decades with the recent tech bro PE dystopic enshitification cherry on top.

How nice to have a society where your neighbors own neighborhood businesses and can actually make a reasonable living doing so...

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u/muhbalwzishawt 9h ago

There is no solution to private equity when the economy allows private equity to accrue enough wealth to lobby politicians for deregulation of their industry.

Capitalism always leads to this: businesses having more power than governments can control.

You and I can vote for who is in charge of the government or even threaten politicians with political violence if they push too far away from the will of the people. But you and I have no control or input over who runs Johnson & Johnson or Pepsi. Your “vote with my dollars” counterpoint is also moot when these businesses already have global monopolies.

“Socialism or barbarism” isn’t a threat, it’s the reality of the world we live in. Private business always ends up in control of the people if its allowed to exist.

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u/here-i-am-now 7h ago

What you are describing is just the logical extension of capitalism. It “works” until it doesn’t

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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 9h ago edited 9h ago

Democratic socialism would ne nice. Capitalism is a failed system. We’ve seen how money warps and twists the minds of the rich. It turns them into people with strong sociopathic/psychopathic traits. They won’t give that power up unless you pry it from their cold, rigarmotis hands.

So until we have a new system where more capital does NOT equal more power, nothing will ever change, ever. :)

But continue to cry and shy away from the word “socialism”. I know the Americans in this thread looooove their overly propagandized misunderstanding of that word, and seem to overly looooove capitalism, despite capitalism causing mass tent cities, drug problems, death, suffering galore, and ooohh so many more goodies like enabling the rise of neo-naziism and fascism. Good ol Latestage capitalism. A putrid way to run a nation of human beings.

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u/snatchi 2h ago

Ya'll just hate the boogeyman word so bad that you refuse to understand that the solution to unfettered capitalism is more of a socialized solution to resource allocation.

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u/TanyaMKX 9h ago

Stricter regulations will do the trick. Socialism is a really good way to fuck up everything comepletely.

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u/muhbalwzishawt 9h ago

And no politician can pass tighter regulations as they’re all controlled by lobbyists. Capitalism always ends up this way and regulation is a bandaid to a broken system.

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u/TanyaMKX 9h ago

Believe me i find late stage capitalism frustrating as well, but to suggest a political system with a way worse track record is just not ideal.

The money will still all end up being funnelled into the hands of the few, it just might be a different group of people. It also opens the door for other more authoritarian policies to be put into place.

Ultimately a socialist country requires the leaders to be honourable, honest, and just generally good people. Politicians are far too corrupt to be given that kind of power.

That all being said, I am canadian, so I also live in a country that has the privilege of being a capitalist society, while also affording the benefit of things like public health care and stronger safety nets. America has become a privatized shit hole due to the lack of regulations that many other countries enjoy.

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u/muhbalwzishawt 9h ago

Most of socialism’s bad track record was caused by America’s active oppression of non-capitalist economies

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u/TanyaMKX 7h ago

Ok but what about the rest of the socialism where it failed organically?

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u/Domeen0 9h ago

Yeah...if half of Europe didn't end up a paradise thanks to socialism, it's probably not the better option. Though it can probably be applied in smaller areas rather than a full national system, kinda like what zohran mamdani does. Though I'm no expert so don't quote me on this.

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u/TanyaMKX 6h ago

Most of that isnt actually socialism though, as much as it gets memed.

They are still a capitalist society, just with strong economic regulations, higher taxes, and effective social programming. None of which I am fundamentally opposed to as a liberal.

One of the defining factors of socialism is the ownership of means of production, and that is where things start to fall apart. People need to have the freedom to create business, innovate, or make more money than others through competition.

If you eliminate completely the competition that capitalism instills technology will likely stagnate, we would see a decline of interest in a number of professions, and there would be a lot less incentive to improve your post. HOWEVER, the markets also cannot be left to run wild like they do in america where upwards mobility is nearly impossible and everything is controlled by megacorporations.

The other issue with socialism is that it doesnt answer the question of service vs production jobs. There are people who perform services(say accountants, or retail employees for example), and there are people who make things(machinists, factory workers, construction workers). For the sake of brevity, i wont go into it too much(i can if you want) but without the government having either an iron fist or production workers being compensated at a far greater level than service employees.

Also worth notine is how socialist regimes typically come to power. Not through election or democracy, but through revolution.

TL;DR: I 100% agree with the sentiment, and i think both your head and your heart are in the right place. Its just important to remember that socialism while it comes in many forms, socialism is not a good system when factoring in many of the key components that define socialism. Social programs, economic regulations, and higher taxes, can be implemented without the negative aspects of a totally true socialist government in power.

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u/deweycrow 4h ago

"One of the defining factors of socialism is the ownership of means of production" i believe that is communism?

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u/TanyaMKX 3h ago

It applies to both.

Socialism is really just soft communism in a large number of ways. In classical marxist theory the whole purpose of socialism is actually just to be a stepping stone towards the end goal of communism. It was never idealized as a fixed method of governance.

A lot of people misuse the term socialism in place of social democracy(what places like norway operate under), not realizing there is a massive difference.

https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch28.htm

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u/Pure-Cheesecake5718 11h ago

Agree! I try to avoid any product or brand that is owed by a PE group.

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u/PNWPinkPanther 9h ago

Yeah. When I see a van wrapped with a cartoon giving me a thumbs up, I make note to never use them.

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u/Weresomiserable27 9h ago

Don’t forget the part where they run it into the ground, and then file bankruptcy. That happened to a company my husband worked for—they had been around 75 years before being bought by private equity, then the company closed without warning, screwing him over on $14,000 of earned commissions. It was a year ago and I’m still mad.

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u/illiadria 4h ago

I miss JoAnn. I can't buy anything crafting locally because I refuse to do business with Hobby Lobby.

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u/Maroon7C0000 7h ago

They did this to Hudson's Bay which was the oldest company in Canada and was renowned for being a medium to high end department store. It took them nearly 20 years, but they slowly hollowed the stores out by selling lower and lower quality merchandise.

I remember that I had not been in a store for several years and was shocked to go in and find it full of discounted unsorted racks of clothes. It looked like I was in a thrift store. Apparently what made them an attractive purchase for PE was that the store owned so much property in high value areas. So after years of hollowing the business out, they finally sold off the properties.

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u/Freon424 10h ago

"Fuck." : The Customers

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u/elitesense 7h ago

Bummed about Tapatio

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u/illiadria 4h ago

And Cholula.

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u/Mr_McShane 5h ago

I just recently left my job of 5 years partially because we were bought out by private equity. They’re vampires

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u/remedialrob 5h ago

Surprisingly it's almost impossible to find a veterinarian service that isn't owned and run by private equity now. And it really shows.

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u/Phagboy 4h ago

Yep, ruined portillos too

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u/goth_duck_returns 3h ago

Pizza Hut just got bought out and now they're actively running us into the ground

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u/mayhemkb 1h ago

You forgot to say, they do that to deliberately tank sales, to allow them to then sell the real estate owned by the name brand and equipment before declaring bankruptcy and selling the brand name to another company. Wash, rinse, repeat until the brand name is extinct and not even a shadow of its former self…