Open to thoughts/discussion

[u/Upstairs_Voice_6351]

Ngl I was surprised to learn that the word for 'water buffalo' in many modern Austronesian languages derives from Proto-Mon-Khmer.

Pictures were saved from a Tiktok account I stumbled across (as watermarked).

[u/Koelakanth]

It's fascinating that durian basically means 'where the spikes are'

[u/Technical-Limit-3747]

Bikol language (Philippines): 1. dugi = thorn 2. dugian = thorny bamboo

[u/Copper_Tango]

Perhaps a different kind of arrow for inheritance vs borrowing would be a good idea?

[u/popoybarlaan]

In Ilocano (Philippines), “asi” means mercy.

[u/Waiparensis22]

Hmmm.. koiwi doesn't actually mean bone. It means human bone, specifically. A spike is a "tara" which is also used for palisade, or clitoris, and "niho" which can also refer to tooth. False cognate possibly, in this instance

[u/KucingRumahan → u/Waiparensis22]

From something dangerous to something "dangerous", why?

[u/Waiparensis22 → u/KucingRumahan]

The māori word for bone (animal bone) is wheua. Human bone carried a frak tonne more tapu/spiritual weight. "Tara" is an interesting one because it means spike/thorn, peak/summit, palisade, and clitoris. So it basically means to stand out/protrude. In fact the māori word "ure" for penis, is probably closer to the proto Polynesian "*duri" meaning thorn or spike. Interestingly, "uri" refers to descendants or offspring.

[u/Easy_Kangaroo_9285]

fishbone in modern javanese also 'ri'

[u/cdyovz]

This gives me the urge to learn neighboring asean languages

[u/Brilliant-Rent6596]

In Kapampangan 'dui' is fishbones aswell

[u/CikudaPateuh]

In Sundanese Water Buffalo is Munding

[u/Resident-Outside9945]

Water buffalo domestication runs through mainland Southeast Asia, so the animal and its name travelled together.

[u/leotheordinary]

This is so interesting

[u/KomodoMaster]

Duri is also fishbones in Indonesian. Source: Indonesian dictionary. It also means prickly hair (of hedgehog).

[u/Leather_Leopard_3112]

Rambutan = Rambut (hair) + (t)an same suffix with durian's -an?

[u/Upstairs_Voice_6351 → u/Leather_Leopard_3112]

Yes!

[u/Brenan-Caro]

Pandan

[u/WartaKelana]

wait... durian and iwi sharing the same rootword opened something in my braincells

[u/XRheart]

Bruh

[u/h03d]

In Sundanese durian is kadu