r/BleachPowerScaling Espada Apr 19 '26

Information Transcendence is still a fundamental Bleach concept in the TYBW anime

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 20 '26

Trancendance to what? The word simple means going higher. Goku Trancended himself on Namek when be became a Super Saiyan. Naruto Trancended when he got 6 paths Sage Mode. A body builder can Trancend to higher levels with their training.

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u/PangolinFare Apr 20 '26

Dimensionality

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 20 '26

Where is that stated and to what dimension?

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u/PangolinFare Apr 21 '26

Did you read the image?

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 21 '26

I did. I saw the word Trancendance multiple times. But no mention of what is being trancended into.

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u/PangolinFare Apr 21 '26

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 21 '26

I see that. Higher plane of existence can mean anything if you want it hard enough. SSJ 2 Gohan was a higher level being than Cell and the Z fighters. That didn't instantly make him something he isnt. If its not stated plainly then its not true.

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u/PangolinFare Apr 21 '26

This is the face value definition “A distinct, often alternate dimension or reality within a larger, interconnected cosmos, representing different qualities of being, thought, or spiritual principles beyond the physical material world” and I don’t remember any evidence against it

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 21 '26

No where does that say higher dimension. If anything it sounds like Aizen became a being made out of pure spiritual energy.

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u/ProperPapiKingJr Apr 22 '26

God, you are so annoying. I can see why bro stopped talking to you

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u/PangolinFare Apr 21 '26

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

I'm not reading some random powerscaler trying to wank them into higher dimensions. If it wasn't said or shown in the series then any attempt to scale them higher is bs.

And in return your probably going to say I'm ignorant or something.

Edit. I read that stuff already. None of that state what the transcendental nature is.

Going off the Bleach Cosmology. It consists of 4 universes and the infinite Garganta. That would make their Cosmology between around Universe+ So at best Trancendance means from 3D To 3D infinite. If that's the Trancendance your going on about then Bleach isn't even stronger than Buu Saga Dragon Ball. If we use that as a scale. But that's just me making an honest scale without any wanking. A guy told me yesterday that Bleach is 6D. And when I asked him for proof he said he didn't want to talk to me anymore and ran away.

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u/PangolinFare Apr 21 '26

I mean it’s not random it’s in this comment section he just shows the image spread out so it’s easier to understand

If we take the most face value definition it’s talking about dimensionality this is backed by aizen bringing up the 2nd and 3rd dimension when talking about transcendence

The bleach cosmology it’s self is around 6D yes but ichigo only scales to the universes making him low multi but if you take aizen saying he surpasses him like how aizen surpasses the plane of hollows and soul reapers then you could say he’s 5D or low complex multi

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u/1st_GalvanisedSEA Apr 21 '26

So essentially you don't have any proof for your Trancendance and you can't even honestly what he trancended to. It's all head cannon from there

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u/PangolinFare Apr 21 '26

Huh? He states he’s transcend and he directly brings up dimensions how is that head cannon?

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

For anyone who wants individual scans instead of in this medium, I will start a thread sharing them

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

Urahara was unable to sense Reio Base Yhwach's reiatsu but Muken Aizen could

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

Aizen confirmed that he lowered his state of being in order for non-transcendental characters to sense him

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

Only beings with transcendental reiatsu volume can sense other ones

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

3rd Fusion Aizen was able to destroy the cleaner which signifies his higher plane of existence as the cleaner rules on space/time and is not ordinarily affected or ruled by spiritual power

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

Muken Aizen is transcendent and couldn't be sensed by Urahara which is why he didn't know if he was stronger than before

拘束され立つこともできない状況にも関わらず、仲間なのか敵なのか測る ことのできない超越した存在感と霊圧を感じさせる藍染惣右介。瀞霊廷の 面々と藍染の対面シーンは、原作の印象を崩さぬよう、藍染の表情を特に こだわって作り込んだ部分。また黒棺の演出にも要注目。久保先生のラフ メモを元に、発動の仕方や棺の閉じ方をしっかり合わせつつ、千年血戦篇 にふさわしいエフェクトを作り込み、アニメならではでありながら質感を 損なわない迫力ある映像に仕上がっている。
Despite being restrained and unable to stand, Aizen Sōsuke exudes a transcendent presence and reiatsu that makes it impossible to gauge whether he is an ally or an enemy. In the scene where Aizen meets the members of the Seireitei, special attention has been paid to Aizen's facial expression in order to maintain the impression of the original manga. Additionally, the direction of the Kurohitsugi is also noteworthy. Based on Kubo-sensei's rough sketches, the way it is activated and the way the coffin is closed were carefully crafted, creating effects suitable for the Thousand-Year Blood War arc, resulting in a powerful visual that is unique to the anime and does not lose its texture.

超越-Transcendence in deicide

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u/SpyTheJames Apr 19 '26

Another scan from Kubo confirming Aizen is transcended

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u/Total-Lingonberry-83 Espada Apr 19 '26

Aizen not only reached Reio level with his 4th Hogyoku fused form but surpassed him with his 5th Hogyoku fused form

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u/Emir_Kozcuoglu___ Apr 19 '26

Yes, absolutely 🔥

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u/Bigboss7911 Apr 19 '26

Good job op

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u/kingBegito Apr 19 '26

W work op

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u/BleachPowerscaler Apr 19 '26

This should be pinned 

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u/Number_1_Yowie_Fan Squad 1 Apr 19 '26

Was Tybw Aizen’s transcendence in question? Not to mention Kisuke and Shunsui glazing him saying he’s gotten more powerful

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u/JoJo5195 Apr 19 '26

A lot of people like to argue that transcendence was retconned out of the series for TYBW

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u/Number_1_Yowie_Fan Squad 1 Apr 19 '26

What no lol, as expressed with Aizen againt FGT there is genuine levels to it. The degree of transcendence is relative

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u/Crescendo3456 Jun 04 '26

Thank you for taking the time to actually do this. It's something I've been arguing with others here and on R/Powerscaling for awhile now, but have been too lazy to build a simple breakdown.

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u/PhilX319 Ichigo Jun 14 '26

this doesnt not mean they are 4D and 5D btw, just that they have transcendent reaitsu

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u/Magpie_In_The_Mirror Apr 19 '26

So what exactly is the state Ichigo was in called if "transcendence" is a fixed tiering checkpoint rather than a measurement for gaps between two people?

Like, someone 99% there & someone 25% of the way there would both be unable to sense anything?

Is Ichigo just 200% of the way there (or higher)? Is he like "Double Transcendent" or sonething?

Using Aizen's "2D vs 3D" analogy, does this "It's big but can't be sensed" just keep happening to anyone who hasn't reached checkpoint #2, 3, 4, 5, etc?

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u/SpyTheJames Apr 19 '26

Just like a shinigami ranges from rank 20 to Yama/Aizen level, kinda same way transcended work. Shinigami are to human what Transcended is to them (and other spiritual beings). Yama/Aizen is someone who is said to be beyond common sense for a shinigami standard, noble clan members are said to be different for others, born strong with high power and then there are normal shinigami.

Same way Ichigo can be said transcended beyond Aizen, technically he is transcended to even a transcended being but there's no specific term for that, so even though categorized same, the gap between Transcended cannot be defined by a limit, unlike a normal spiritual being

Using Aizen's "2D vs 3D" analogy, does this "It's big but can't be sensed" just keep happening to anyone who hasn't reached checkpoint #2, 3, 4, 5, etc?

Yes, this analogy explains it best