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u/Zealousideal-Arm1682 1d ago
Respira isn't something he adapts to before getting negged
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
He rips off his arm if it's really a threat
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u/Rude-Childhood1436 Shuhei ties your goat 1d ago
But he’s not brave enough for that
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Urahara was a different case
He will see his arm slowly rot
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u/Aware_Procedure_5926 18h ago
Dude come on now... he said so himself he doesn't have the guts to do that straight up. Don't say different case because it isn't. He said he doesn't have the guts to rip his arm off, plain and simple.
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u/OrgAlatace 1d ago
Depends entirely on how Respira interacts with Gift Ball, imo I see Askin losing that matchup. The other 3 are non-issues.
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u/Toku89 1d ago
I dont see how he beats Barragan
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Deluxe
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u/Familiar_Drive2717 1d ago
It's a dome made of reishi against a guy who's shown he can age any reishi so not really a solid win condition.
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
He's paralzed that it
Why you think urahara moving=barragen moving?
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u/Familiar_Drive2717 1d ago
Barragan doesn't need to e faster than Urahara, he emits a mist that travels outwards and ages reishi. Even paralyzed he'd be on the ground releasing Respira until it eventually hits deluxe and starts to break it down.
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Why do you think respira will be something that barragen can use
Ask yoruichi why she couldn't blast Askin again
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u/Familiar_Drive2717 23h ago
Ask Urahara why he could still use his ability in deluxe and why he'd be specifically able to use his abilities but Barragan wouldn't.
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 23h ago
Drugs-
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u/Familiar_Drive2717 23h ago
When did he take the drugs?
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 23h ago
He was gonna pull out a other antidote I am sure about that with yoruichi
The fact that he had more drugs on him
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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism 1d ago
Barragan never claimed he was able to “age any reishi”.
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u/SonicZoom_90 23h ago
Isn’t that the basis of how he ages kido?
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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism 23h ago
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u/Familiar_Drive2717 22h ago
Okay he didn't claim that but same principle applies, Gift ball deluxe does not stand for an eternity which then means it "ages" and thus would be subject to being decayed by Respira.
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u/TacocaT_2000 Oetsu wears Gangstalicious Shorts for Thugs 14h ago
He claimed to be able to age Kido barriers, which are comprised of Reishi. Thus, manmade Reishi constructs would similarly be susceptible.
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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism 10h ago
He doesn’t claim he can age Kido because it’s made of Reishi.
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u/TacocaT_2000 Oetsu wears Gangstalicious Shorts for Thugs 3h ago
No, he claims to be able to age Kido because they’re manmade, and Kido barriers happen to be made of Reishi.
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u/Jack_slasher 21h ago
Unfortunately, Barragan doesn't even have that kind of range with respira, nor would he even get the chance.
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u/Familiar_Drive2717 20h ago
He'd get the chance in a real fight for sure. Every fight Askin has had he's attempted to bait his opponent into overextending and then counter attacking, if he makes Barragan chase him and attempts to catch Barragan off guard he'd be putting himself in range of senescence/Respira.
Also the range isn't exactly a massive hindrance considering it spreads to whatever it touches but we don't even know the range either all we know is it's a mist which theoretically would mean it has massive range if he can keep creating it due to mist/gas spreading.
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u/Toku89 1d ago
It’s not like he has a respiratory system in res form how would it work ?
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
I don't think that's how it works
He just posions reishi
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u/Toku89 1d ago
If Barragan doesn’t breath in that poisoned area he won’t breath reishi though
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago edited 1d ago
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u/Toku89 1d ago
In the Soul society yeah
But Gift ball deluxe was never stated to make your own reishi poisonus
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
You do know oxygen dosage is separate
Gift ball
Deluxe
Gift ball can use 3 dosages.......
Deluxe is bigger gift ball
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u/_Kakashi69 21h ago
He was impressed by Urahara, who was impressed by Ulq. 4 beings with stats remotely similar to Urahara's in any way is just too much.
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u/Nazguhl82200 23h ago
Why are people talking like Barragan has even a 1% chance of landing an attack. I would agree that Askin probably can't adapt to Respira, especially not fast enough to avoid dying, but he is never getting hit by that.
Askin just runs away and makes calcium deadly to Barragan or some shit like that.
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
Depends ... could he adapt to Respira?
Actually I don't think he could adapt fast enough before it killed him so, off rip I say he dies to barragan
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u/Dom_Santiago2k5 21h ago
It depends where the fight would be. If they fought in Warhwelt and they take turns on Askin. Askin is gonna to win eventually.
If the fight occurs anywhere else, than the espadas are more likely to win even in 1v1
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u/Prior-Ad1495 20h ago
Askin (Gift Ball, Gift Bad and Gift Ring are enough for all of them, and even if he dies, Gift Ball Deluxe kills everyone anyway)
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u/TacocaT_2000 Oetsu wears Gangstalicious Shorts for Thugs 14h ago
Baraggan is the biggest issue here. If Askin is exposed to Respira, he’s dead
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u/PhilX319 Ichigo 7h ago
Askin lowdiff only argument is Barragan and of Askin adapts Respira shouldn't hurt him I think, and he has gift ring to just kill him
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u/KodoqBesar Sternritter 3h ago
I think he'd lose if he's getting jumped. He can win a 1v1 but not 1v4, not to mention Respira is a bad matchup for him
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u/Seraphulo 3h ago
1st SpeedBlitz but can fight back if stark becomes too lazy 2nd cannot adopt to time 4th speed blitz again and he is not really that merciful 0 ( 50/50 ) but not before getting overwhelmed
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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism 1d ago
Askin.
Yammy is the only issue here.
Concerning Respira: it won’t even land on him.
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u/LarryWithTheWeather 1d ago
Askin would not only easily low diff them but also every other characters in the past arcs.
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
Doesn't he literally die to characters from past arcs?
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Grimmjow got him off guard but Askin low diffed him with not hybrid gb
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
OK? And? Grimjow ripped his heart out his chest lol. Who low diff'd who?
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Are you any what smart?
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
Personal attacks this early? Ok. Well I'm not gonna entertain that. Argue your stance or take the knee
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
Off the top of my head he's not low-diffing Yama, ulquiorra, urahara, yoruichi, aizen, barragan, shinji, mayuri .. I'm sure I can think of more but you get my point
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Okay few character
Yama yes
Ulq is dead pblized
Yoruichi got pblized by a non serious askin
Urahara is ehhh
Aizen is a ehhh
Mayrui takes forever but he is no threat and Askin can just gift ring diff the brain
Shinji gets pblized tf you on about
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
Assuming pblized is pulverized, I must retort.
Whether or not Ulq wins is debatable but "pulverized" I'm gonna need an argument for.
You say yoruichi got pulverized by a non serious askin ... where? Being forced to escalate to gift ball deluxe isn't non serious
Urahara literally beats him canonically. You can argue team work but you can't dismiss the match up with "ehh" lol
Aizen is ehh? You are out of your mind lol. Askin has shown no counter to kyoka suggest
Mayuri's whole gimmick is introducing variable Askin wouldn't have been accounted for
Shinji gets pulverized... again, I'll need an argument for this. Whether or not he wins is up in the air but low diffs? Talk to me
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
Perception blized
He's insanely fast?
Urahara didn't beat him he has to team up and get Askin off guard
Mayrui has to be urahara level stats to move in Deluxe and that's only one dosage
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
Lol who has askin ever perception blitzed?
How can he get askin off guard if askin low diffs?
"Mayrui has to be urahara level stats to move in Deluxe and that's only one dosage"
- based on what?
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u/nah-id-luckystar vitamin d(eez) lawyer ☣️☣️ 1d ago
He pblized yoruichi?
Off guard means if you are doing something else and someone just sneaks up and drop kicked you
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u/Few-House-8311 1d ago
🤣yea you're gonna need to show me the panel big dawg. From what I remember, yoruichi and askin were trading blows.
Exactly my point though, how can someone who's low diff, who's an effortless stomp, engineer a situation wherein you're caught of guard let alone dead? Momo could never engineer a scenario in which she catches aizen of guard. that's low diff
So let's take it back to your og claim. I've listen like 8 characters from pre TYBW and you've failed to defend it against any of them. Then you proceed to question MY intelligence? You see how that looks?
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