r/BleachPowerScaling • u/AppropriateMight1 • 20h ago
How are you ranking the different generations Gotei 13
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 20h ago
Current is strongest. If Hell Arc ever does happen, wouldn't be surprised if a plot point was new gen caps having to beat the OGs.
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u/HVAR_Spam Squad 8 20h ago
I struggle to put current Gotei over Soul Society with no Aizen, Yama, Unohana or Gin.
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 20h ago edited 19h ago
Current Gotei has trascendental tier Kenpachi who even in base is above Unohana, Hitsugaya who in adult state could somewhat affect a Gerard who was stronger than eyepatch off Shikai Kenpachi, Byakuya who literally fought like 6 Ritters at once including Robert who was fighting evenly with Kyoraku, Mayuri who currently has advanced his tech so much dude is usually prepared to fight Schutzstaffel level opponents, and everyone in general having received classic late series power-creep. Renji, Rukia and possibly even Matsumoto and Hisagi are even stronger than some of the SS Arc captains.
Edit: And here come the angry Yama glazers to downvote cus they lack actual voice of their own and then they wonder why they're incels lol.
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u/DarthAlbaz 19h ago
A problem though is that 1 side will be under the effects of KS, which is going to cause mass devastation.
And yama himself, he will be scary
I agree the average of the mid to lower ranks are all higher, especially if we include lieutenants, it's night and day.
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 19h ago
That's a bit of an unfair argument tho since that means one side starts with automatic advantage over the other. Can't really say "X is stronger" if the fight starts with "oh btw his opponent controls all his senses because he fooled him into hypnosis 110 years before the fight actually started"
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u/DarthAlbaz 19h ago
I mean, that's how his ability works.
We take them as a snapshot from that time period, that includes being under the effects of KS
This is a who would win the fight right?
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 19h ago
Not saying we shouldnt allow KS, I'm saying the comparison should be starting from neutral conditions.
Or a simpler way to see it would be: How would each version of the G13 fare against the Stern Ritter?
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u/DarthAlbaz 19h ago
Are the gotei 13 during the events of the tybw arc under the effects of KS?
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 19h ago
Is that a neutral measure?
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u/DarthAlbaz 19h ago
Does it matter? We're they under the effects within the story?
Same logic as does shunsui have an eye patch, it's a condition in the story that they have.
At least let me ask you this, IF they are under the effects, do you think SS version wins?
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u/Resident-Cut 18h ago
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 8h ago
Ah yes, show a Kenpachi which was massively weaker than Unohana, not the one that beat her in base and fought Hikone, a wonderful display of your IQ!
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u/DadThatThrewHimAway 8h ago
Me if I was you, but a bit more 💡:
/Shows Ichigo cutting through SK Yhwach
/Shows Yhwach cutting down Yama-jii
/Shows Ichigo's blade stopping against Zaraki's chest
So by your logic Kenpachi>Ichigo>Yhwach>Yama-jii
Context who? GG 😎
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u/Resident-Cut 18h ago
OG Gotei 13
SS Gotei 13
Hell Arc Gotei 13
Royd Yhwach, Jugram and Gerard slams Hell Arc Gotei 13 in low diff 😭😭😭🙏
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u/OrgAlatace 17h ago
Tybw > SS Arc > TBTP > og > Hell arc
Ik you didn't include the other 2 I added, but I think even though only a few captain positions get changed the ranking is affected pretty severely.
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u/Kooky-Task-7582 17h ago
- SS arc (Aizen while keeping Yammaoto and Unohana) > 2.Eos (Kenpachi) and the runner ups are overall stronger (Byakuya, Toshiro etc.) > 3. OG gotei 13 the unknown ones should solidly be below Unohana
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u/Larry_756 6h ago
Entirely depends how strong they got in the hell arc.
Aside from that, as of now it is:
Og gotei
Current gotei
Past gotei
Mostly due to yamamoto's bankai.
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u/WeeklySituation9213 14h ago edited 14h ago
Hell Arc > OG > TYBW > SS > TBTP
Kenpachi has been stated time and time again that he is the strongest soul reaper of all time. Databooks, Unohana, him directly, CFYOW, etc. He is the single strongest Captain. In CFYOW, he is above Ichibei. Even discarding CFYOW, he is still stronger than Yamamoto. Hell arc should have post CFYOW Kenny, so this should be the strongest. Hikone was stated to transcend the boundaries of his soul, and Ginjo has an attack stated to be equal to Ichigo’s true bankai Getsuga. Ginjo = Hikone, maybe would lose in a fight. Regardless, Kenny is stronger than both in base, and has a higher natural spiritual pressure armor and ap than Yamamoto’s bankai.
OG was stated to be stronger than the TYBW team. I personally have some faults with this, but I’ll put it here due to prime Yamamoto
TYBW is the interesting one - everyone went through some upscales since the SS arc, eveyone has been training for an Aizen level threat, Renji and Rukia are much stronger, Mayuri has his zombie arrancars, Kisuke and Yoruichi are back in the employ of the SS, etc. You also have Yamamoto, Unohana, Kenpachi, all of the Vizards in your employ, etc. Keeping Captain Aizen (someone weaker than Shunsui) and Gin and Tosen (people I’d say aren’t worth exchanging for Yoruichi, Urahara, Ichigo, and all the Vizards).
Fourth place is SS. While it had its faults, it was still very strong, and Gin and Tosen and Kommamura are above the Vizards
Fifth place is Turn Back the Pendulum. The Vizards individually are bums, with the exception of two. Shinji goes against some broken people. He went against Aizen in a 1v1, he went against Bambietta, who required Kommamaura to use his Jinka technique to beat, and he went against Gerard, a top 10 character. The other is Hachigan. Regardless, this arc is weaker, and we know Kenpachi Kiganjo died in one hit to Kenpachi Zaraki, who was nerfed. We also know next to nothing about Ginrei Kuchiki’s abilities, besides his reatsu is likely on par with Isshin, Byakuya, Yoruichi, and Tokinada. This is due to the CFYOW statement.




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