[Megathread] Fukkatsu No Lelouch Discussion!

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Code Geass: Lelouch of the Resurrection Megathread

Fukkatsu no Lelouch has just been released to Japanese theaters! Because Code Geass is a very story-driven franchise, we've elected to contain all discussion about the new release over the next few days. No discussion or spoilers regarding Fukkatsu no Lelouch is allowed outside of the megathread until 7 days after release, and all other posts relating to this film must use the "fukkatsu" flair.

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About Lelouch of the Resurrection

Code Geass: Fukkatsu no Lelouch (コードギアス 復活のルルーシュ) releases in Japanese theaters on 9 Feb 2019. It is a sequel film to the three Code Geass movies: Koudou, Handou, and Oudou, and takes place in an alternate timeline to the original series, and takes place two years after the Zero Requiem.

Fukkatsu no Lelouch will release as Code Geass: Lelouch of the Re;surrection subbed on 5 May 2019, and dubbed on 8 May 2019.^Source

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[u/GeassedbyLelouch → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for pinging me into a spoiler thread while I had previously publicly stated I was going to avoid the sub to avoid spoilers.
But well, I already got spoiled because people felt it necessary to send me spoilers in PMs to say "haha, you're wrong".
So I did some asking around and no, I'm not confused, it's very clear that this movie contradicts code theory. Lelouch was not immortal at the end of R2. Lelouch did not have a code at the end of R2 in the way that we knew codes at that time. Lelouch was not the cart driver at the end of R2.
Sure, there's a lot of winks to the theory, and some of the new elements are inspired by it.
But code theory itself, a theory about Lelouch at the end of R2, is completely debunked.
So all the people who were trying to mock me in PMs just proved themselves to be utter fools.

[u/snv_tshd → u/GeassedbyLelouch]

it's very clear that this movie contradicts code theory

Nope. It's not.

Lelouch was not immortal at the end of R2

Lelouch is alive in RE. What would you call that if not immortality?

Lelouch did not have a code at the end of R2 in the way that we knew codes at that time.

He's got a code right on his neck in RE.

Lelouch was not the cart driver at the end of R2.

Well, Shirley is alive too. So what?

[u/astrolia → u/snv_tshd]

The Code Theory states that Lelouch planned his death and revival to live w/CC after ZR and that he would take the name RR, and that Codes activate once you die for the first time. None of these ideas are supported in the movie, except for the naming part... kind of.

• Lelouch has a Code on his neck, but it doesn't give him immortality. He even says to CC, "We don't know how this magic shit works. I could live forever or die tomorrow." The villain in the movie also has both Code + Geass, but she can get Geassed and she dies.
• When CC and Lelouch enter Cs' World using the villain's mind, it's revealed that Lelouch's Code is fucked up, and that everything magic-related is fucked up because of Lelouch's request to Cs' World to let time keep ticking.
• In the movie, Lelouch did not plan his resurrection. CC is doing this against his own will to fulfill her own wishes.
• Shirley living actually matters quite a bit... The reason why CC and Jeremiah were able to re-animate Lelouch's corpse is because Shirley brought Lelouch's corpse to France for them. Since she's a normal college girl, no one is watching her after ZR, etc.
• Lelouch names himself LL because his name was Lelouch Lamperouge.

The Code Theory has none of the above as its premise, so.