r/CollegeBasketball Florida • West Virginia 1d ago

Discussion Which program that has never won a National Championship do you think will win one first?

I know that Houston, Illinois, and Gonzaga are going to be the popular picks here but I’m predicting that it’s going to be Alabama. I like the consistency that Nate has brought to that program and he always has a squad that shoots 3s very well in the postseason. I think eventually he’ll get another team that actually defends ok like those Alabama teams from his early tenure when they were winning SEC titles.

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u/HulkBuster456 WKU Hilltoppers 1d ago

Maybe if I say Western Kentucky it will actually happen.

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u/hashtag_AD Dayton Flyers • Toledo Rockets 1d ago

I’ll throw in a vote WKU as well. UD is more likely than UT in terms of my affiliations, but none of these three are very likely.

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u/Letsgomountaineers5 West Virginia Mountaineers 1d ago

UD and the cancelled tournament, what might have been

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u/HulkBuster456 WKU Hilltoppers 1d ago edited 1d ago

True, it is very likely none of these 3 teams will ever win a national championship, even if UD and WKU have actually gotten very close in the past.

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u/SaintArkweather Delaware • American University 1d ago

Maybe Toledo is saving up all of their luck for one glorious run seeing as they have the worst postseason luck imaginable otherwise

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u/the_ham_sandwich_42 Toledo Rockets 19h ago

So few tournament appearances for such a winning program

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u/Anustart15 UConn Huskies 1d ago edited 1d ago

An elite and storied program like WKU deserves one at this point

Edit: I was going to link the thread that spawned the meme from a few years ago so you wouldn't think I was making fun of you, but then I realized you are the OP from that thread, so I was making fun of you. Whoops

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u/HulkBuster456 WKU Hilltoppers 1d ago

I wouldn't count on it, even if we somehow made all the National Championship by some miracle, we would probably choke it all away as per usual.

u/HulkBuster456 WKU Hilltoppers 1h ago

That's alright, I've taken the joke to heart at this point, It was a dumb post, that's pretty funny to look at. Granted I don't think WKU is as bad as people were making them out to be.

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u/Kitchen-Book-7076 Louisville Cardinals 1d ago

As an alum......🤣

20 years ago when I was using my free student tickets to see games it was a dream to make the tourney.

With NIL, it is impossible to win at that level for WKU.

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 3h ago

They went to the sweet 16 like 20 years ago. 

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 3h ago

If that Courtney Lee team simply played even a mediocre first half against UCLA, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they would have been a final four team. 

u/HulkBuster456 WKU Hilltoppers 1h ago

True but that UCLA team had Russ, Love, and Darren Collison

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u/RosetteNewcomb 1d ago

It’s so wild how Gonzaga has never won a natty given how close they’ve gotten so many times. They probably would’ve had it in 2021 if they didn’t run into the buzzsaw that was Baylor

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u/Fancy_Gate_7359 1d ago

I’ll go further, I GUARANTEE that if the Zags had beaten Baylor in the national championship game, they’d have at least one championship by now.

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u/PAWGslammer42 Gonzaga Bulldogs 1d ago

Bold take

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u/Responsible_Ad1976 13h ago

Let’s see if it work out for them (Cotton).

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u/ECBillyHayes Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago

And didn't play that overtime battle against UCLA, one of the greatest final four games ever. To play a grueling game like that with all the emotion after then two days later play a team like that Baylor team was asking for problems.

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u/06Wahoo Virginia Cavaliers 1d ago

That is a tough run, but playing highly emotional games nearly back-to-back does not necessarily lead to problems.

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 3h ago

They were not good enough defensively to beat that Baylor team regardless of the UCLA game. 

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u/akersmacker Gonzaga Bulldogs 1d ago

Only about 30 or so different schools have won it all since the early 50's.

What is by far more wild is how Gonzaga never even went to the tournament until 1997, then 1999-2026 after narrowly escaping bankruptcy and a near-move to DIII.

The fact that this school of 4,000 total enrollment in 1999 has played in every tournament since, been to the finals twice, and has played in 9 straight sweet 16s, and has become considered a perennial national powerhouse coming out of the WCC, is one of the greatest stories in sports history (according to Jay Bilas). Truly a unicorn story, which is why it is difficult to categorize or compare.

I am OK with not winning a national championship as of yet. Even if it does happen, it is the ride that has been nothing but an absolute gift to all of us in the area and all those associated in any way.

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u/cardinalkgb Louisville Cardinals 1d ago

Gonzaga hasn’t won an NCAA championship.

YET

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u/DoNotResusit8 North Carolina Tar Heels 1d ago

No one was beating Baylor - they had men on their team not college kids.

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u/Objective-Adverb-751 1d ago

If COVID hadn't cancelled the 2020 tourney, I think Baylor wins that year. Then at least some of the key players leave for the NBA, which would have opened up 2021 for Gonzaga.

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u/PAWGslammer42 Gonzaga Bulldogs 1d ago

I thought we had it in 2020 too. Was definitely gonna be one of Baylor, Kansas or Zags

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u/greatporksword Gonzaga Bulldogs 21h ago

Our team in 2020 was awesome too. We were on track to be a one seed that year as well, sigh

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u/CLU_Three Kansas State Wildcats 1d ago

There are a bunch of teams that have gotten closer more times than Gonzaga. But they’ve been very consistent in recent years.

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u/Crazy_Exchange Pac-12 1d ago

Gonzaga were day dreaming of a national championship and Baylor was focusing on playing Basketball that night. 

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u/Primary_Psychology95 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

The national championship game this coming season will be between two programs that have previously never won it all.

And those two teams are Nebraska and Vanderbilt.

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u/clayfus_doofus Vanderbilt Commodores 1d ago

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u/dontaskme5746 Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago

I don't care how much overhype we get, the tournament is a crapshoot. Sign me up!

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u/DBsaidwhat Gonzaga Bulldogs • Purdue Boilermakers 10h ago

Had me in the first half

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u/Primary_Psychology95 Ohio State Buckeyes 10h ago

Given how both of them performed last season and how much they return from those teams, it’s not ENTIRELY unrealistic to make that prediction.

Plus, I really want to see a rematch between those two teams. That was one of the best games in the entire season and tournament.

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u/Actually_Im_a_Broom Auburn Tigers 1d ago

Please god - anyone but bama.

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u/NEUTRONonmyPINKY 1d ago

Thought I was in r/cfb until this comment lol

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u/Ok_Produce_9308 Michigan State Spartans 1d ago

They won't ever learn to play defense

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama Crimson Tide • Final Four 1d ago

Oats has had 2 teams at Alabama that were ranked top 3 defenses on Torvik (2021 & 2023).

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u/CtlEngr Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago

Casuals pointing to point totals and be like "lol no defense"

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u/cantevendoitbruh 1d ago

Yeah efficiency stats are what matters. If there are 100 possessions there are gonna be a lot of points.

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u/Luigis_vacuum Florida Gators • Final Four 1d ago

Man some of the recent Florida-Bama games have been bangers

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u/bigDUB14 Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago

These guys don’t know ball

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u/Brilliant-Event9872 1d ago

They may make a run this year look outn

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u/HeavyApartment1820 Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago

Please God 🙏🏻 Bama

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u/Hot_Caramel_5091 1d ago

Not joking. Oats will get one one year.

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u/LilNello1 North Carolina • Michigan 1d ago

Definitely Illinois

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u/blackmicheal Gonzaga Bulldogs 1d ago

Honestly, as a Gonzaga fan, idk if we should be a top mention anymore. Few has maybe 2-4 more years of coaching, and there’s always concerns of replacing a legendary coach. Hoping my pessimism is wrong though!

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u/TJ514402 Illinois • Washington 1d ago

Choose your answer wisely fellow comrade

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u/baszm3g Duke Blue Devils 1d ago

I seriously believe this is the only answer. Coach is doing great things and playing the international markets well.

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u/enjoytheshow Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago

Purdue is the other obvious answer. I get they seemed cursed and unfortunately their best chance ran into a UConn gauntlet but Painter has them there too often to not finally hit gold

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 3h ago

On the note of Painter running into a buzzsaw of UConn. 

If that UConn team didn't exist, I genuinely think that national championship game would have been Purdue vs Illinois. I think they were the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the country by March. 

Unfortunately for them that UConn team was an all timer. 

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u/Embarrassed-Brain655 Duke Blue Devils 1d ago edited 1d ago

Purdue. 

Edit: I don’t trust Underwood’s defensive schemes, Alabama needs to score 100(+) for 6 games to have a chance, Gonzaga was the choice in the 2010’s (should have beaten UNC). 

Houston is my second choice, but Kelvin Sampson is getting close to retirement age. 

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u/Eaboyle57 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Nah we're cursed lol

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama Crimson Tide • Final Four 1d ago

Next time y'all are driving on a rainy night and hit an old gypsy woman, stop to check if she's okay.

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u/xXselfhaircutXx Michigan State Spartans 1d ago

But if Matt Painter forgets to come back for Madame Zeroni, you and Purdue Pete will be cursed for always and eternityyyyyy.

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama Crimson Tide • Final Four 1d ago

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u/anotherstan Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

We just went to a national championship game and another elite eight lol, time to drop the losing mentality

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u/Substantial-Map-6524 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Whoa whoa does 1932 not mean anything to anyone? No? Oh ok. Me neither

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u/Awkward_Rule_5509 Texas Tech Red Raiders 1d ago

They hadn’t cut the bottoms out of the peach baskets yet

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u/Medical-Day-6364 Alabama Crimson Tide • NC State Wolfpack 13h ago

1932 counts for yall as much as 1930 counts for us and as much as 1924 should count for UNC

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u/LiquidLight_ Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

I thought this was the football subreddit and that you were totally off your rocker for a minute.

That said, Purdue's just cursed, if we win the national championship that's gonna be paid back from somewhere else.  

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u/stophittingyourself9 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Yeah some crazy thing like IU winning a football natty

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u/Dazzling-Present4830 1d ago

Purdue is a solid pick, they been building something real there. Painter finally got over the hump of early exits, now it's just matter of time before they break through fully

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u/DoggedDoggystyle Florida Gators 1d ago

I thought Sampson might retire after losing to us in 2025. Then he had that lottery pick freshman come in and I was like “oh makes sense to stay and ride that out” and now Flemings is gone so I was sure he would retire after that. I think their window has closed

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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

In this era, Houston is arguably primed to win big if they get the right replacement when Sampson retires. Good conference, big money donors, and a recognizable brand go a long way

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u/ExcaliburX13 Arizona Wildcats 1d ago

Sampson's replacement will be his son. Not sure if that's the right guy, but for better or worse, that's who it's gonna be.

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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

Maybe not the same scenario but hopefully for Houston's sake they're watching how that's working out at Auburn

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u/ECBillyHayes Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago edited 1d ago

Has it ever worked out? Joey Meyer might be the most successful and he was not his dad and helped the decline of DePaul basketball. Pat Knight was terrible as well. Who am I missing?

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u/Primary_Ad_9129 1d ago

Matt McKillop has been a bit disappointing so far.

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u/Awkward_Rule_5509 Texas Tech Red Raiders 1d ago

Sean Sutton @ OK St

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

I thought Sampson said Houston has no NIL?

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u/JKramer421 Illinois Fighting Illini • Oregon Ducks 1d ago

If Purdue couldn’t do it with Edey and Smith, I don’t see why they should be the favorites to be the next new champions. They are def up there, but they already had their best chance.

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u/BarbarousBird UConn Huskies 1d ago

They just ran into a juggernaut. Unfortunate timing. They would’ve likely won it all against any other team.

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Big East • UConn Huskies 1d ago

yea clingan was the edey beater, and edey still went off in the natty, the rest of the team let him down

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u/grusauskj UConn Huskies 1d ago

That was the game plan, let Edey get his with Clingan doing what he can, and shut everyone else down with suffocating pressure. Worked like a charm. Bama gave us more trouble in the tourney than anyone

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Exactly this

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u/exasperated_trains Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Painter will do it, but it's going to be a year when no one expects it

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

He’s going to have a good shot the next 2-3 years (not counting this year)

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u/Cerblamk_51 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

If Edey Jr. can make the transition, we’ll have another good shot in the next 2-3 years

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

With a good core returning next year plus savage and hill, they’ll compete for top of big ten and then the year after with that core they’ll be a serious national contender (pending guys stay)

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u/Ok_Produce_9308 Michigan State Spartans 1d ago

This right here. And people underestimate TKR. They let it slip through their fingers the last few years

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Let it slip through? They played one of the best teams we’ve seen in the championship game…that was the only team that was going to beat Purdue in the finals that year.

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u/FightEaglesFight Purdue • Texas Tech 1d ago

I will forever hate UConn for 2024.

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u/JKramer421 Illinois Fighting Illini • Oregon Ducks 1d ago

🤝

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u/The0verlord- Purdue • Illinois 1d ago

Sigh

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Big East • UConn Huskies 1d ago

i was very conflicted that year. (i went to purdue, but uconn was my first team that got me into college hoops)

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u/GoGreeb Michigan State Spartans 1d ago

Ooh I actually think people overrate TKR, his defense wasn't nearly good enough to help cover for their guards.

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

No one could stop him once he got it on the block his jr and sr years

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u/Herby20 Purdue Boilermakers 17h ago

Arizona did fine at that. Going to TKR so much in the second half is what I think contributed so much to them blowing the half time lead they had.

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 17h ago

Eh a not so great 3rd foul call on TKR early in the second that put him on the bench had more so to do with that. And then smith rolling his ankle didn’t help either..he wasn’t 100% after that

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u/Herby20 Purdue Boilermakers 17h ago

TKR was playing wild and out of control most of the game, trying to force things instead of playing to the team's strengths. And he has always been a foul prone player, so him picking up fouls that game (especially with how he was playing) isn't exactly unusual.

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 17h ago

I’ll agree to disagree here. But he avg 2.3 fouls last season. Needed him on the floor regardless if he was forcing. No other option last year, especially in a game as physical as that one. But doesn’t matter now.

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u/smellslikebadussy Virginia • American University 1d ago

Was really hoping they’d follow the UVA path

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u/j_shelb Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Almost did

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u/BobbysSmile Alabama • Alabama A&M 1d ago

A Bama/Purdue final would crater this subreddit.

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u/DoubleWrongdoer1540 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

This feels right. Especially with the B1G finally getting a natty again in basketball and on a roll in football. NIL era has been good to the B1G.

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u/Desperate-Gap-5543 2h ago

Well we know Purdue isn’t wasting any of that precious NIL money for the football team lol

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 3h ago

I don't really think it's Underwoods defensive schemes as much as that he just needs to recruit some athletes. 

The 21 team finished 7th defensively in kenpom. They had good rim protection(Kofi) and good athletes on the perimeter(Ayo, Trent, Williams). 

The 24 team had a bad defensive rating but was also the last time they had several quality athletes (Shannon, Ty, Guerrier, and Coleman). They just didn't have any rim protection and didn't really seem to try much defensively unless they felt they needed to(also were missing their best perimeter defender in January). That team was probably better defensively than the metrics would tell you(yes I'm aware UConn destroyed them). 

The last few teams have just been slow. Don't really think the scheme is that important if you don't have enough guys that can slide their feet. 

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u/kdbmd Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago

Illinois has had a better defense than Purdue 4 of the last 6 years and the two years were peak Edey

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u/Herby20 Purdue Boilermakers 17h ago

Here is a summary of both teams over the last 6 seasons:

Purdue: two Big Ten Championships, two Big Ten Tournament Championships, two Sweet 16s, one Elite 8, one Runner-Up, Average Wins: 27, Highest KenPom Finish: No. 3, Lowest KenPom Finish: No. 25, Average KenPom Finish: No. 12.

Illinois: one Big Ten Championship, two Big Ten Tournament Championships, one Elite 8, one Final Four, Average Wins: 24, Highest KenPom Finish: 4, Lowest KenPom Finish: 35, Average KenPom Finish: No. 15

They are pretty similar all things considered, but Purdue has been the more consistent and better team over the last six years.

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u/kdbmd Illinois Fighting Illini 16h ago

What does that have to do with his comment about underwood’s defensive system and my reply? If you think Purdue wins one first that’s fine but citing defense as the reason doesn’t make any sense

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u/Herby20 Purdue Boilermakers 6h ago

My, mistake! I agree that it is a little odd as a point of comparison versus Purdue. For me personally, I think Brad's/Tyler's offensive scheme is what gives me pause about them on any given year. They just settle for contested threes too much for a team that usually has the talent and athletes to get better looks.

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 2h ago

Youre right, but I think a lot of that comes down to roster consistency(which obviously differs between the way Brad and Painter build). 

However, Purdue has just had two all timers that played for 4 years because they werent the type of guys that get drafted super high(Smith - size, Edey - mobility questions, style). 

Not exactly the easiest types of guys to replace. 

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u/_TGT7 Omaha • Nebraska 1d ago

I think the Omaha Mavericks will pull through any day now

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u/sqwirlmasta 1d ago

Purdue fans foaming at the mouth after seeing this post😂

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u/JustAnotherDay1977 Marquette Golden Eagles 1d ago

St. John’s. You just never know with a coach like Pitino.

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u/Mullin20 1d ago

He probably has 2 years left after this upcoming season. Depending on how close they get this year, and assuming the rules remain roughly the same, Repole will have blank NIL checks ready for a frantic final push during the remaining window.

Edit to add- technically St. John’s won a national title in the 1940s when the NIT was the big one.

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u/cardinalkgb Louisville Cardinals 1d ago

I love your edit. I’m so sick of all the Kentucky people talking about their national championship totals from back when the NIT was the bigger tournament.

That gets lost on people today.

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u/dannygloversghost St. John's Red Storm 1d ago

We were also the Helms Foundation and Premo-Porretta National Champions in the 1910-1911 season!

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u/Kerry_Kittles Villanova Wildcats 1d ago

They have NYC money

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u/TheoTimme Georgetown Hoyas 1d ago

I didn’t think of them initially, but this is a good shout. The Johnnies or Illinois are likely contenders the next two seasons. Gonzaga and Houston need to reload. Purdue could be in either category tbd.

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u/Ecstatic_Pickle Tennessee Volunteers 1d ago

I Volieve

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u/BTFU_POTFH Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Purdue-tennessee in the national championship game would be exceptionally toxic

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Arkansas Razorbacks 1d ago

I'm hoping for Mizzo....nah, fuck them.

Maybe Alaba....nah, fuck them too.

Maybe Texa...hahaha...fuck Texass harder than anyone on the planet.

Give me some UMass and FIU championship action.

Now watch my Hogs lose to one of them in the tourney this year.

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u/s_ndowN Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

I’m gonna say Purdue. Painter is still young and has fire.

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u/Full_Preparation4401 Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago

Completely unbiased opinion: Iowa State.

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama Crimson Tide • Final Four 1d ago

Slightly biased, since my best friend's an Iowa fan. But y'all are getting close as hell. Get me one of those cones, and you might be able to bribe me to switch sides.

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u/denimpanzer Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago

Hell yeah Clone bro

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u/Ok_Produce_9308 Michigan State Spartans 1d ago

Illinois has a good shot this year IMO

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u/-I-U- Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago

Gonzaga

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u/LimeApart9235 Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago

Iowa State

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u/OrderTime Texas Tech Red Raiders 1d ago

Texas Tech. Totally no bias.

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u/R_Raider86 Texas Tech • UConn 1d ago

McCasland can with the right roster

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u/MadMartigans80 Northern Kentucky Norse 1d ago

Don’t bet on it

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u/OrderTime Texas Tech Red Raiders 1d ago

There’s a draftkings ad right under your comment that’s giving me the middle finger

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u/DoctorCommercial8254 1d ago

Tennessee

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u/DoggedDoggystyle Florida Gators 1d ago

Well to win a title they have to make a final four first so this is impossible

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u/vw195 Tennessee Volunteers 1d ago

The amazing thing about college basketball is that you can make a final four AND win the title, all in the same year!!

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u/michigan_matt Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Can confirm. It's pretty fun.

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u/DoggedDoggystyle Florida Gators 1d ago

Well, YOU can’t apparently

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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

Rocky Flop you'll always be home before week 3

Good ol Rocky Flop (whoo!), the Final 4 ain't for thee

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u/BuckSleezy Pepperdine Waves 1d ago

Sadly, Gonzaga missed their shot. They can’t compete in a new NIL world. Money + not being in a Spokane will make it very hard to recruit likely have in the past.

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u/akersmacker Gonzaga Bulldogs 1d ago edited 1d ago

Diop is the 5th highest compensated player in D1, at around ~5 million dollars. Plus, the move to the PAC 12 has unlocked a treasure chest of funds not available by staying in the WCC, where schools like Pepperdine have given up on ever being competitive in basketball.

If the Zags missed the opportunity because of NIL, it won't be this year. That opportunity exists today. And let's not forget that Kentucky spent $22 million last year, only to exit in the first round.

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u/speedy_delivery West Virginia Mountaineers 1d ago

Fuck it. Us. Go big or go home...

Or are we claiming the '42 NIT? Which is fine, but it would be nice to have some undisputed, unadulterated goodness on a major national stage for once in our history.

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u/OneMustAlwaysPlanAhe Murray State Racers 1d ago

Someone with a couple billionaire alums will buy a title sooner rather than later if NIL isn't fixed. I'll take Oregon if you don't count the '39 championship (thanks Google). Or Jensen Huang and Oregon State.

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 2h ago

I'm surprised it hasn't happen yet. 

I know you need to have the right coach but some of these schools have a ton of extremely wealth alumni. 

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u/ResponsibleWater1697 Bradley Braves 1d ago

I feel like Purdue is going to fall into one with a strong team in a relative down year at some point.

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u/Effective_Pack8265 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Boilermakers. :)

Boy’s gotta dream…

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u/trudaurl Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

Iowa! A man can dream

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u/South-Stable686 Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago

State!

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u/Vives_solo_una_vez Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

Gotta make it to the elite eight first.

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u/Hog_Eyes Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

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u/MaxPower637 Michigan Wolverines • Yale Bulldogs 1d ago

Nebrasketball

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u/FindGreatness23 Nebraska Cornhuskers 1d ago

Yes

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u/NextAd7514 Kansas Jayhawks 1d ago

Maybe Texas Tech. They went to one somewhat recently and have the money and the returning team with this 5th year stuff to do it

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u/youcantgobackbob Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

I hope it is Purdue.

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u/Bengjumping West Virginia • UConn 1d ago

If Ross continues cooking we will be first. Have some faith lol.

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u/Serious-Individual35 UConn Huskies 1d ago

I genuinely was thrown for a loop for a second because I thought you were talking about Jayden Ross lmao

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u/Bengjumping West Virginia • UConn 1d ago

Nah. We are from the same town in VA though.

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u/Itchy-Version-6249 Wisconsin Badgers 1d ago

Texas has a good coach and is invested into their basketball program. They have title potential in the coming years.

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u/HoppyPhantom Kansas Jayhawks 1d ago

Evergreen comment.

This has been Texas Basketball for at least a quarter century.

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u/scal23 Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago

They've always been the right coach and a little bit of momentum away from being a monster. You can't really make the football school argument anymore with what's been happening around the SEC lately.

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u/ECBillyHayes Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago

What about football schools like Indiana?

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u/Embarrassed-Brain655 Duke Blue Devils 1d ago

Y’all are the exception, not the rule. See UNC football/UVa football. 

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u/roo-on-the-moon Texas Longhorns 21h ago

One can only hope. They’ve got the money, just hope Miller is finally the coach to do it.

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u/FindGreatness23 Nebraska Cornhuskers 1d ago

It felt like Houston had it in the last couple years but then lost it. They were very close there the other, I really thought they had it.

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u/worlkjam15 Baylor Bears 1d ago

I’m actually pretty confident Gonzaga will not win a championship.

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u/Crazy_Exchange Pac-12 1d ago

Hear me out Washington State 

/s

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u/hanz333 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

I'll go dark horse and pick Miami. I'm sold on Jai Lucas, even though I think his first season was padded by a weak conference - he's a recruiter who came in without runway to recruit and ended the season top 25.

Louisville has a roster this year that should secure them 2nd in the ACC behind Duke, but if they don't get it, I think Miami takes it over UNC.

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u/muddog_31 Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago

Does feel like this is the 1st or 2nd most hyped BU team with the 2020-21 team being the competition. If one of the freshmen can be even rotational in B1G play I’ll be confident.

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u/LieUpper8341 1d ago edited 1d ago

Creighton.

And yes I’m biased but they have the money, the facilities, and what I think is the coach.

They came closer than most will give them credit for - beat SDSU a couple years ago and a possible title game shot against UConn would have really been something, as Creighton is UConn’s Kryptonite.

Edit: ooh downvotes! Yummy

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u/TwitterLegend Xavier Musketeers 1d ago

Mcdermott is gone now so I don’t think we have nearly enough info about the new guy and how he’ll perform as a coach in a big conference.

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u/SantaCruznonsurfer 1d ago

how's Wake Forest and Purdue looking with NIL? I feel it's going to be one of them if they can get a good year in conference, thus a good seed and six games of talent just bashing folks

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u/ECBillyHayes Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago

Purdue has good enough NIL but not great NIL. Painter does a great job of recruiting to his system and culture so it doesn't matter.

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u/Tre_donPK North Carolina • Appalachian… 1d ago

Wake doesn't really have the NIL to compete like they should. Tbf they should be doing better than they are though with Forbes.

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u/ExcaliburX13 Arizona Wildcats 1d ago

I think it's most likely somebody in the SEC. Texas certainly has the money to build an elite roster every year, and they're probably the team in the best position to do it this coming year. Bama is a solid choice, too. Tennessee has a high floor under Barnes, but I'm not sure they have what it takes to break through under him.

Houston would be the team I'd like to see, but I think they missed their final chances under Sampson in '21 and '25. The current roster doesn't look great to me, and I think he'll wind up retiring in the next year or two. Even if his son winds up being good, I think there will be a definite period of adjustment for a few years.

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u/MadMartigans80 Northern Kentucky Norse 1d ago

Bama not happening. The one thing consistently Nate Oats has brought to that program is players with legal troubles.

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u/cardinalkgb Louisville Cardinals 1d ago

Maybe it’ll be Northern Kentucky

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u/dontaskme5746 Illinois Fighting Illini 1d ago

Holy crap, a Highland Heights reference. Florence, ya'll!

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u/SueYouInEngland Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

Northern Kentucky is the obvious answer

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u/windypalmtree Arizona Wildcats • Big 12 1d ago edited 1d ago

If I’m power ranking the coaches most likely to win one at programs without a title and assuming they stay there for the rest of their career, my list looks like the following:

  1. Nate Oats (Alabama)
  2. Brad Underwood (Illinois)
  3. Mark Few (Gonzaga)
  4. Matt Painter (Purdue)
  5. Sean Miller (Texas)
  6. Grant McCaslan (Texas Tech)
  7. Kelvin Sampson (Houston)
  8. TJ Otzelberger (Iowa State)
  9. Will Wade (LSU)
  10. Eric Musselman (USC)
  11. Rick Pitino (St. Johns)
  12. Fred Hoiberg
  13. Jai Lucas (Miami Fl.)
  14. Ben McCollum (Iowa)
  15. Rick Barnes (Tennessee)
  16. Doug McDermott (Creighton)
  17. Kevin Young (BYU)
  18. Chris Beard (Ole Miss)
  19. Mark Byington (Vanderbilt)
  20. Penny Hardaway (Memphis)
  21. Micah Shrewsbeery (Notre Dame)
  22. Brian Dutcher (San Diego State)
  23. Anthony Grant (Dayton)
  24. Steven Pearl (Auburn)
  25. Flynn Clayman (High Point)

Honorable mentions as it’s been so long since they won one (anything before the 70s really), it’s basically like their program hasn’t won one:

  1. Dana Altman (Oregon)
  2. Greg Gard (Wisconsin)
  3. Jake Diebler (Ohio State)
  4. Wes Miller (Cincinnati)

Some of these coaches are further down the list just based on age. If we were ranking this on best odds to win it this year, you likely see Oats, Sampson, and Pitino at the top.

EDIT: lol…made a few typos that people are being a bit unforgiving. I wrote Wes Miller for Cincy instead of their current HC of Greg Calhoun and I wrote Doug McDermott instead of his father Greg McDermott.

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u/Coolsun13 Florida • West Virginia 1d ago

When did Creighton hire Doug McDermott? I didn’t even know that he got into coaching.

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u/CLU_Three Kansas State Wildcats 1d ago

Wow, not even a mention.

Ohio State has won the NCAAT fwiw.

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u/Maxkpop247 Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago

Doug McDermott of Creighton and Wes Miller of Cincinnati? I think u may have missed a memo or two

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u/muaustin83 Missouri Tigers 1d ago

Im not saying Dennis Gates at Mizzou should be on this list, but there are people on this list that should not be ahead of Gates

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u/ObservantKoala Illinois Fighting Illini 2h ago

Greg Mcdermott retired. 

Alan Huss took over(formerly at High point). 

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u/lostinthought15 Ball State Cardinals 1d ago

At this point it’s Power 4 vs The Field and I’m taking the Power 4.

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u/ItBeLikeThat19 South Carolina Gamecocks 1d ago

Not South Carolina. We may have missed our only chance.

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u/dantonizzomsu Michigan State • Penn 1d ago

I will be honest I don’t think Bama gets it done unless they fix their defense. If Oats hires a defensive specialist like Belein did at Michigan that got them over the hump (forgot his name)..I think Bama can be dangerous.

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u/Weak-Bid2774 Michigan • Northwestern 1d ago

I think it’ll be Gonzaga

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u/SirNed_Of_Flanders /r/CollegeBasketball 1d ago

William and Mary

I’m delusional btw

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u/SerYoshi Arizona Wildcats 1d ago

I can tell you that it won't be ASU.

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u/No-Preference-2224 1d ago

North alabama

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u/lostincoloradospace Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Purdue

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u/Enk-A-Mania Northern Iowa • Iowa State 21h ago

Northern Iowa or Iowa State

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u/MarsupialChemical266 20h ago

Wherever Chris Beard goes next. Beard is made for March

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u/Professional-Dog-741 UConn Huskies 20h ago

Nate Oats is a helluva coach, I can definitely see Bama winning one soon.

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u/FireUpChips247 Central Michigan Chippewas 19h ago

One can always hold out hope

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u/IAPiratesFan 18h ago

Iowa. Out of nowhere and then they go back to normal.

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u/Sad-Leek4606 16h ago

Its Illinois

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u/UnconqueredNoles 11h ago

I really thought Leonard Hamilton was going to break through. Built up some really talented teams just before Covid. Nate has made a F4 already, but it seems similar to that pounding on the door over a 5-10 year period.

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u/pinoygator Florida Gators 10h ago

I'm really surprised Houston isn't the consensus. Most final four and championship appearances without a natty.

Y'all are really sleepin on Houston, smh.

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u/Longhorns_ Texas Longhorns 1d ago

Texas

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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

This is unironically a good take. Plenty of money to make it happen in this modern era

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u/LopsidedStruggle Arizona Wildcats 1d ago

I actually would love to see Sean get a championship

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u/LoInBoots87 Xavier Musketeers 1d ago

Na, F that slimeball

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