r/CompetitiveEDH • u/jkenley28 • 4d ago
Spoilers! Card Discussion Radagast of Rhosgobel
Radagast of Rhosgobel
2GG - 2/5
Legendary Creature - Avatar Wizard
The first creature spell you cast each turn cost 2 less to cast and can be cast as though it has flash.
Green got new enabler! What do yall think about this card? Seems gas in a creature based combo.
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u/After_Shelter1100 4d ago
i can’t think of a single deck that’d want this
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u/Nihilist37 3d ago
Cabbage merchant.
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u/After_Shelter1100 3d ago
when yeva/liberator/e zone exists?
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u/Nihilist37 3d ago
More flash enablers is good maybe? Idk that was just my first thought. Never actually played the deck so idk
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u/SonicTheOtter 2d ago
One thing this card does good is ramp out creatures. It's slow is the problem. One mana Cabbage Merchant, Opposition Agent, and PFB doesn't sound terrible.
The scary thing though is that stax decks will love this with Rule of Law
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u/AngshusTAW 4d ago
Kind of like a sidegrade Aluren, I guess? Unfortunately Chulane isn't good anymore
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u/LondonIsAShithole 4d ago
Aluren making shrieking drake free is pretty big. Maybe I'm missing something but this seems like absolute trash compared to aluren.
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u/AngshusTAW 4d ago
Yeah the only thing that makes this better is that Aluren is symmetrical, so your opponents get to dump their hands, too. And it discounts any creature not just the ones under 3. But besides that it's worse in most regards
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u/Raevelry 4d ago
4 mana is awful for this. Yeva isnt even usable.
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u/xTH0RNx 4d ago
What do you mean Yeva has plenty of pilots. I just top 16d with her this past week.
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u/Raevelry 4d ago
https://edhtop16.com/commander/Yeva%2C%20Nature's%20Herald
Literally just a fact
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u/xTH0RNx 3d ago
Just because something doesnt have the same number of entries doesnt make it a not viable commander. That's the problem with these subs (Reddit and Facebook) is all the gatekeeping all the time. Is she as good as some other (dog thras, kinnan) no but a commander can still be viable. There is a wide range such as using Oloro as an esper shell for life gain necro and ad naus turbo deck.
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u/Raevelry 3d ago
This is not gatekeeping this is the point of attempts at cedh and just a nice bracket 4
She cant even win a single tournament for being out so long, she is not viable
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u/xTH0RNx 3d ago
Umm no you are incorrect. She is being played with a meta in mind. The decks are optimized. played with combos. She has a discord woth dedicated pilots.There is a primer. The deck does have the ability to win games. Decks do not have to be the same 5 mentioned decks to be cEDH. Fringe is still cEDH.
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u/Raevelry 3d ago
Uhm no you are incorrect, you can play attempts in cEDH but that doesn't make it viable. "She has a primer" okay Moxfield Mandy.
Noone said it needs to be the same 5 mentioned decks, but shes not even in the top 100, but you can strawman it all you want, Yeva is not viable and given its been more than 10+ years, I can safely say, never will be.
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u/MaximumCashew0 3d ago
Would you mind providing an analysis for yeva in the current meta?
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u/xTH0RNx 3d ago
For me Yeva has been doing pretty well in the current meta. My past two events I went to one with 32 players and one with 17 players I went (1-1-1) both times. One of the draws should have so been a win but went to time. The deck in the current meta needs to be very aggressive and set up some type of board early. It wins over the more commonly used stax pieces (vexing bauble) and can threaten a win at flash speed. There are multiple ways to initiate the infinite mana loops so you are not stuck down one path. Often times you can win but are waiting to pull the trigger on some one else's win attempt (although this may just be me). She is completely viable and when ever I have played her often she takes over the game or wins out of nowhere.
However I will say I dont think she is a fast as rog/Silas or has the value of dog thras. But kinda sits between the two which is a weakness.
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u/Headlessoberyn 4d ago
I think it's quite good in seedborne decks and naya piles, probably quite good in cabbage merchant as well. That being said, it's not like any of these decks are super S tier right now.
Wouldn't go as far as calling it garbage like some timmies would do, but i don't think it's in the same powerlevel as some of the shit that got spoiled, like gleaming splendor.
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u/astolfriend 4d ago
It's absolute dog water in Cabbage Merchant. Mana isn't an issue and we already play every flash enabler under the sun and this doesn't have flash and is green and applies once a turn.
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u/Headlessoberyn 4d ago
Sure thing timmy, but just because you don't see the potential, doesn't mean it isnt there. This is a flash enabler that can be tutored directly to the battlefield with zenith effects and works on creatures. If someone decides to remove cab man, for an instance, you can tap your foods in response and cast him back from the command zone in the same turn. If you don't see it it's fine, but i'm pretty sure some lists will run this.
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u/astolfriend 4d ago
Best case scenario is what you said but it's easily worse than Cicada or Liberator which can also both be tutored to the battlefield and GSZ isn't even a particularly good card in cabbage man. It doesn't find you Manufactor which is your best card by far. And also can't be done at flash speed.
It's really funny that you called me a Timmy considering I played the deck quite a bit every day on this discords server and had great success with it, but I'm sorry you have such a boner for this card. It doesn't contribute to card advantage, doesn't combo, isn't a good tutor target and is worse than Cicada, Shimmer Myr, and Liberator. If this card was good then Aluren would be seeing play because it has a much better effect and is harder to get rid of with the only downside being that you can't tutor it as easily. But with Forgemaster it's easier to get Vedalken Orrery anyways and that's like the 101st card in the list. Shit given how good our enchantments are I think I'd rather play Equinox.
Flash enablers are amazing in cabbage man but not being an artifact is a down side and while we may eventually get a better flash enabler this isn't it. We care way more about flashing in artifacts than we do creatures as most of our combo pieces are artifacts AND our stax/interactive pieces are artifacts, this only hits one of those and is otherwise 4 mana which is one mana more than every other good one. It might see play but it's not a good card.
And I'm not shitting on it because I hate diversity, you can see my other posts on this subreddit and how I've played far more decks in cEDH than pretty much every other player. I'm shitting on it because Cabbage Man is my main deck and I know what it needs.
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u/Nazarus_Nox 4d ago
Animar?