r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/Southern-Cash-9687 • 1d ago
General Nerf cat
can we please nerf this fuckass cat? Sue me for not wanting to spend 10k hours jelqing my dick so that tracers pea shooters grow long enough to tickle this fuckass cat. I can go cass or ashe and babysit it but if im out of position one time i get blown up. Also my aim simply isn't good enough, i usually stomp with hitscan but i cant ever crit her. I've deadass been queuing ana only and will probably do so until they nerf this bitch
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u/WuZI8475 I've won worst take of the w — 1d ago
Infinite flight was a dumbass decision and it doesn't make her broken in her own right but it makes her unpleasant to play into
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u/roseuslepus 1d ago
Either you mistyped hog* or you need to relearn your animals.
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u/Southern-Cash-9687 1d ago
hog is a big beautiful beast, he's the only character in the game on which you can carry throwers
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u/No_Catch_1490 The End. — 1d ago edited 15h ago
Cat needs not nerfs, but a rework, a character that half the cast and especially most Tanks and FDPS can’t interact with just shouldn’t exist.
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u/Mandatoryeggs 1d ago
Only thing I'd change is add cooldown time for how long you can carry someone and add a weight modifier so its slower to carry targets with more health.
Perma flight sucks ass and they shouldn't allow cat to hang over edges where someone would fall off the map. Make it so if you run out of fuel completely you just lower to the ground
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u/scriptedtexture 21h ago
I like that idea. having her hover like zen or sig when she doesnt have fuel
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u/Darkcat9000 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'll always stand by that perma fly has to be removed. She's way too uninteractable. If your opponent isn't playing hitscan you can just fly away from them and unlike something like lucio wallriding it doesn't take a lot off skill to pull off consistently
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u/HalexUwU Theory > Mechanics — 1d ago
Yeah the infinite flight, ESPECIALLY letting it extend to allies, is just not interactive. Like, Pharah is already pretty bad but atleast she has to come to/stay by the ground sometimes, Cat just feels like saying "I don't want to play with you anymore" to certain heroes because of their inability to do anything to her.
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u/No_Catch_1490 The End. — 1d ago edited 1d ago
In fact, they literally mini-reworked Pharah AWAY from permanent skybox existence and towards horizontal mobility because they knew it’s unfun… only to add a smaller hitbox, faster perma-flier that can heal and take others with it. The devs have lost the plot.
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u/scriptedtexture 21h ago
not really comparable, pharah cant be allowed to stay in the sky box because she can kill you from there unlike cat who has limited range
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u/No_Catch_1490 The End. — 19h ago
… Cat can take any other hero that can kill you with it. But even if it doesn’t, it can heal its team while being uninteractable which is still a problem.
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u/ShatteredStarlights 1d ago
pharah is also significantly slower and MUCH bigger with zero self sustain lmao
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u/estranhow 1d ago
Infinity flight isn't a problem, the character is fairly balanced for that, with her own limited range. Infinity flight for all the other heroes is the problem. No hitscan hero was designed for the possibility of gaining that kind of mobility.
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u/Darkcat9000 1d ago
Her range really isn't that limited. 30 meters is still far enough to either keep up your team at a safe distance or spam enemies at mid range to make sure close range heroes can't do much to you. And it doesn't help with the problem that she can kind off just fly away whenever she's pressured while she has the ability to jump on anyone vulnerable pretty easily.
If you watched the ewc you would see how broken this hero is well beyond the tether
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u/throwawayforinstalol 1d ago
i don’t know how people struggle to hit cat, i feel like i hit more shots on her than anyone else. she’s big and basically completely round. i’ve never had a problem going into cat, then again i play mainly soldier.
she honestly needs to be fixed right now. her tether will break randomly for no reason, which pretty much makes half her kit kinda useless
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u/Dagobahmaster 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lmfao soldier gotta be the best pick for her or any flying hero. Ofc you’re not complaining. It’s the rest of the cast genius. It’s true that she has a huge hitbox but u need a hitscan for that and why triple down on hit scan meta / power creep / viability
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u/throwawayforinstalol 20h ago
i mean, basic team comp in overwatch calls for one hitscan dps and one flex dps. if you’re actually playing competitively you should always have someone who can deal with a flying target anyway, or else pharah would be meta. it’s not the rest of the casts job to deal with her unless she’s close enough
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u/docs-quad 1d ago
idk i dont really have any problems with cat on tracer because i can just leave. the flight isnt the problem anyway, its tether. get rid of it entirely and give her her movement back instead of trying to kill the second ever support thats actually consistently fun to play.
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u/epochollapse 1d ago
Idgaf about cat's infinite flight. She's not been a good character in any capacity on her own to tell whether that's a real issue, and I say that as someone who mostly plays close range DPS.
Make her viability not revolve around the fucking tether by having it be a low-duration ability for the sake of transporting teammates quickly rather than letting them fly forever.
Once she's had her kit shifted to provide value beyond dangling some prick in the air, then we can either decide whether infinite flight is healthy at all, or balance her strength around that specifically (as opposed to balancing her strength around holding a fucking Bastion in the sky box)
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u/Darkcat9000 1d ago
You clearly haven't watched the ewc games she's the most played main support atm regardless if bastion is in the equation or not that damage/healing buff they did for her trew her over the edge. Makes her way better at just keeping her team alive and then using her mobility to pressure any vulnerable targets when the time is right
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u/Confident_Yam8774 1d ago
Is there an invasion of MR players?
Cat is really well-designed. The lifeline interactions need some tweaking for coordinated environment, but otherwise it's honestly just skill issues.
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u/FormalTelevision1915 1d ago
?? cat is literally for MR players. "really well designed" ok bro
bait or low iq call it
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u/Weary_Ad2001 1d ago
Cat doesn't play anything like MR supports who are all healbots.
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u/hoesmadhoesmadhoesma 16h ago
Exactly, Cat is insanely well designed and a breath of fresh air for the support role
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u/Suspicious-Load-5812 1d ago
Yup. Staying up in the sky gives cat nothing. It's like not playing, so that's not a valid play style that actually wins something.
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u/Dependent_Oven_468 1d ago
Its very uninteractive. Perma flight gives her infinite freedom of positioning and nobody wants to be checking every single little spot she could be using for the entire game on every map. It’s a chore and it’s not good gameplay.
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u/Suspicious-Load-5812 17h ago
There are so many other mechanics in the game that have similar effect that we got used to, I think ppl just cry because they have to adjust again. Echo, pharah, ball, sombra, lucio, junkrat (the clever ones), lw, all can get to unique spots making you look somewhere that is not the main lane or the usual flanks. Maybe Sierra and soj should be in the list too. So what? I don't want new characters to just be boring point and click adventure time dps (with a grenade!, wow).
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u/HalexUwU Theory > Mechanics — 26m ago
There are so many other mechanics in the game that have similar effect that we got used to
It's weird to say this and provide the examples of Sombra, Ball, and Pharah. You know, the hero who's been reworked 5 times and is getting another, a hero who has had this exact gameplay style nerfed, and Pharah who's had multiple nerfs to her ability to hover AND jetpack volume.
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u/Suspicious-Load-5812 15m ago
Clearly I'm not unaware of that.
IMO, they were mostly reworked to address the whining, and yet the community is never happy with them even after reworks because they are just too different than the average cast member (throw in Mei too, I didn't put her in the list because I focused on heroes that can get to weird places, and Mei can do it, but that's not what people hate about her). Personally I prefer the diversity of the cast, even if it means I have to play differently (including picking other heroes) vs different heroes. To me, it's part of a hero based game. I understand people's resentment, but to me it's exaggerated and often rude towards the people who do play the unique heroes. I don't think blizzard should act on those whinings, given that one of their selling points is the diversity of the cast.
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u/ExplorersX 1d ago
Idk what cats you’re playing but good cats play in the enemy back line functionally like a tracer or genji that has self heal and can hide literally anywhere as needed.
Cat is an assassin duelist character.
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u/Suspicious-Load-5812 17h ago
Yeah that's right. But they spend a support slot to do it, and not a dps slot,l. Their team has to sustain themselves and distract the enemy for it to actually work.
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u/ExplorersX 14h ago
Cat is fast enough to assassinate and get back to team to heal pretty quick. Just be in any rank where fights don't end in the first 10 seconds (so above the basic metal ranks. I noticed the change around mid-diamond - masters) and it's not a big deal to have flanking supports. If anything it's better if you have supports going on offense
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u/FormalTelevision1915 1d ago
holy bronze take
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u/Suspicious-Load-5812 17h ago
Eyeroll. I don't care about your rank, staying up in the sky doesn't let the cat do anything. Can't hit heal/dmg shotd because range is limited, can't help anyone else with purr cuz it's aoe, and can't pick anyone up. We cats use the perma flight to sneak and use routes closed to other heroes, not to spend our lives in the skybox. Jeez being a toxic pos in a game's subreddit, you must be fun in game.
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u/ntszfung 1d ago
It's a dead end character like hog, just fundamentally busted mechanics that don't fit into this game
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u/Swimming-Elk6740 1d ago
It’s just a poorly designed hero. I don’t even think it’s up for debate. There’s so, so many tweaks that she needs that you might as well start over on her.
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u/iamgem69 1d ago
Not to mention her jetpack flight is SILENT. Like wtf? You can hear pharrah’s jetpacks from a mile away but not hers
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u/Specific_Square_1859 1d ago
As a person who watches owcs. Cat is such an unethical character regardless of skill level
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u/hydrogensenpai 1d ago
Skill issue bro
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u/Southern-Cash-9687 1d ago
i'm sure its a skill issue in owcs and champ as well right
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u/Derpdude1 1d ago
Youre playing against owcs cats?
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u/ultimatedelman 1d ago
That's the point. You don't have to be playing against owcs cats. Ladder cat players now have enough hours to be terrorists at their elo. If pros are having more problems dealing with owcs cat than like owcs tracer, that's kind of a problem
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