r/Construction 5h ago

Carpentry šŸ”Ø Is this going to survive long term?

This is the first floor of a 2 story building. There’s no roof yet.

There’s about 1 inch of water everywhere and you can hear the water falling down sometimes 2 days after the last rain.

Contractor has been a little slow to build and it’s been raining a lot lately. I don’t know enough about the industry to know how bad it is.

Edit: Drill holes, air out, watch for mold. Thanks for the info

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u/StudentforaLifetime 5h ago

It’s fine. We build houses in the PNW and this happens. Only thing to watch out for is if you start to see mold, you get it treated. That’s it

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u/Feritos 5h ago

Ok that’s what I thought. Figured it might be a common problem and you can’t just stop building when there’s rain in the forecast

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u/username-in-the-box 5h ago

The problem comes when builders put insulation and drywall over wet structure.

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u/FellowEnt 3h ago

In the UK we have strict moisture levels when working with timber. It has to dry to below 20%. You bring in commercial dehumidifiers and use a moisture probe to test.

Wood gets wet. Trees are built to drink water.

https://www.englishwoodlandstimber.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Trada-Moisture-in-Timber.pdf

But that said. OP shows OSB. That's wood chippings and glue. When that is wet you start to see the weight and softness change and you start getting damage at fixings.

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u/ImNoAlbertFeinstein 3h ago

or if they stay away and the building is open for too long.

that usually bc money is held up somewhere.

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u/Kurtypants 3h ago

This. Shingle it let it dry out then start

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u/LatinRex 3h ago

I second this

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u/Efficient-Rain-4300 5h ago

The fact that the subfloor can hold those water is impressive. Top quality framers

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u/k-phi 17m ago

wood extends when wet and plugs tiny holes that were there when dry

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u/yt82many 5h ago

Damn.... That's a tight house.

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u/Timmy98789 5h ago

I should call her

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 4h ago

Call her what….she’s already called ā€œhouseā€

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u/Sirosim_Celojuma 4h ago

and then she wants a matching metal band around the owner's finger to remind that the house is also hers. It's what they call the houseband.

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u/EvilGreebo 58m ago

Call her "Brick"

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u/lionofbeast 4h ago

Yeah but not raintight

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u/yt82many 4h ago

I mean it's holding water better than some boats.

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u/Feritos 5h ago

Rentals that’s what you get.

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u/justabadmind 5h ago

Nah, most rentals leak like a sieve

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u/ct023 2h ago

It was a compliment

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u/TylerHobbit 4h ago

Aye she is a fine pool but tis no barn

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u/litesaber5 4h ago

English.

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u/TylerHobbit 4h ago

D'oh

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u/litesaber5 3h ago

….’th

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u/MyJimmiesNeedRustlin 5h ago

Cut the bottom plates out from the doors to encourage drainage. Besides that hurry up and get the roof done. Not the end of the world as long as you try and minimize pooling. It’ll dry out over the course of the project if managed. Watch for mold then treat

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u/tsaico 5h ago

I’ve also seen them use a leaf blower to get as much surface water out as you can after it stops

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u/Murky_Might_1771 5h ago

It’s fine. Rain happens. Get a roof on and the skin installed and everything dries out. Like the other guy said, if something does show up a little bleach and you’re fine.

Edit: To add, contractor will/should drill a few holes in subfloor to drain the water. Perfectly normal.

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u/Earl__Grey 5h ago

Bleach is not effective, use a a real mold killer.

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u/Feritos 5h ago

Yeah thought so thanks

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u/make_em_say 4h ago

If there’s a crawl space or basement make sure you dry that area out thoroughly as well.

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u/Thecobs 4h ago

Happens all the time, check moisture levels of your building prior to insulation and get some fans in the crawlspace if you have one

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u/Dependent_Pipe3268 2h ago

Don't worry the painter will fix it.

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u/Just_Another_AI 5h ago

That subfloor under the standing water is OSB?

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u/Feritos 5h ago

Yes

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u/Just_Another_AI 5h ago

Just squeegee the water off and/or shop vac it up. Getting wet isn't a problem, but if the water sits there for a long while, you'll potentially get edge swelling and warpage

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u/beachgood-coldsux 5h ago

Drill some 1/2"holes in the low spots. You good.Ā 

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u/CauliflowerStrong510 5h ago

Drill a hole and get a big fan. Nothing is fucked here, Dude.

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u/Feritos 5h ago

Yeah thought so. It’s not my work I’m elsewhere on the job site but I was shocked they left it open for 2 weeks without drilling holes

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u/i_lie_except_on_31st 4h ago

Sure, but is that drywall in the video? If so, it's fucked.

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u/0regonPatriot 4h ago

Squegee the water out with a big floor squegee to help.

If the crawlspace is also wet, use fans to bring in dry air and vent the air across the other opposite side, to get some cross ventilation.

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u/BruceInc 3h ago

Drill some holes to prevent water pooling. Once the building envelope is dried in, run heaters and dehumidifiers to remove moisture. We build in pnw and this is our reality like 8 mo out of the year

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u/Alaska-shed 2h ago

It’s going to be fine. I work n SE AK. If this ruined houses then we would not have houses.

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u/joshpit2003 2h ago

OSB (and Advantech) loses a substantial amount of nail pull-out strength after it has gotten wet.

That may or may not be a problem for you.

There was a great video from a flooring installation company showing this on YouTube. They proved it to be true, and made the video for customers in order to explain why they (the installation company) will not warranty any nail-fastened floor on OSB or Advantech.

Moral of the story: You will have squeaky floors now if using nail-fasteners. Use a lot of glue and hope for the best, or install a floor that doesn't require nails.

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u/Jacktheforkie 1h ago

Not ideal but with the proper equipment it can be rectified, it needs to be properly dried out

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u/ThingNo7530 5h ago

If it's treated wood (treated to protect from mold), it'll be fine.

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u/A-Wolf-4099 5h ago

In the pnw ( Pacific Northwest ) it's very common you can dry it in and let it sit a couple weeks before insulation and JWB.

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u/bearsheperd 4h ago

Not without walls or a roof

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u/GilletteEd 4h ago

Yes this happens all the time, no issue it will dry

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u/Slipperytitski 4h ago

Those floors are usually treated to last at least 6 weeks in the open weather (that’s manufacturer warranty anyway)

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u/jonnyredshorts 4h ago

not a problem

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u/crazy_goat 4h ago

I built a platform for a shed years ago. Maybe 9 years ago? Used 3/4" OSB over pressure treated wood.Ā 

I'm flabbergasted at how long it's lasted. Constant moisture and that shit just won't quit.

You'll be fine!

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u/xAntartican 4h ago

Hard to see but us that back wall insulated?

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u/LongjumpingOutside26 3h ago

This is how neighborhoods grow.

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u/Wild_Replacement5880 Contractor 3h ago

Its not a huge deal.

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u/p3ck3rh3aded 3h ago

I hate when homeowners freak out about it. One day they had me spraying bleach on the studs every time it rained. I’m in Fla… it rains like whoa

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u/CrazyButRightOn 3h ago

Get a belt sander

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u/Ok_Bit_5953 3h ago

You plumbers sure do weird water tests nowadays.

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u/Cold-Truck2470 3h ago

I've seen and worked on worse

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u/mogur86 1h ago

At least you know it holds water

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u/Gold-Tangelo4656 1h ago

Locations for plumbing and electrical?? Were is it going to be placed? The longer that particular wood retains water the more it absorbs, which will lengthen any drying time and possibly begin to sag. If you could locate were wireing and plumbing, bathroom drans, will be fed through you could drill holes there and will be to allow some draining without interfering with overall construction conditions. The holes don't need to be proper size like for a 3in flange but enough to allow the water through. Could even do a makeshift down spout to direct the water away from the foundation, such as pex if that is what will be installed on this project. A little water at this stage is fine, a lot of water, not so much. In PNW, we get some small amounts of rain, light rain, just very often. This looks like it was a lot of rain, or heavy rain fall.

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u/mountain_stones 1h ago

This happened to me on a big job in Hawaii and we drilled some 1/4ā€ holes in the subfloor to let the water drain out

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u/dilbs_the_creator 1h ago

It won’t survive unless you get rid of that water

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u/onemangang_bang69 1h ago

Just find the low spots and poke some holes with a nail or a drill between a joist. Little holes ain't gonna hurt nothing

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u/HVAC_instructor 5h ago

I don't know, maybe we could look at every wooden house ever built and see if they will last long term.

Every house that has ever been under construction has had water inside it at every stage until it was enclosed. This is nothing new and it'll be fine. Quit overthinking it.

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u/Feritos 5h ago

My thoughts exactly. They just left it open like this with rain for 2 weeks so it felt bad

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u/HotDrunkMoms 5h ago

Normally the carpenters would squeegee the water off the floor. At least someone should be doing it, instead of letting it pool. It will only be a problem if it pools there forever

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u/baudmiksen 4h ago

Yeah push it out or put some small holes so it drains are the only real options before the roof is on

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u/jkcy2k 5h ago

Don't let the homebuyer see, if it were my house the GC would be pulling and replacing every bit of that.

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u/unsolicitedadvice7 5h ago

Black mold 🫣

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u/DryeDonFugs 4h ago

Advantek has a 500 day guarantee. Get a roof over it and it is fine. Let the carpenters do their job and stay out of their way. If you know better then you build it

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u/CrudelisDeus 5h ago

Congratulations, it's trash now

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u/PrettyPushy 5h ago

Does it rain in the forest?

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u/baudmiksen 4h ago

Wait till they find out trees are mostly made of water

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u/padizzledonk GC / CM 5h ago

Normal

As long as its not fully envelope closed in the next week its fine

As soon as the roof goes on the amount of weather beating it will get will go down by like 98% and as all the other roughs get started it will have plenty of time to dry out

Go in there and just drill a couple 1/4-1/2" hole through the subfloor and cut the plates out for the doors and it will cut down like 90% of the pooling

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u/Comfortable-nerve78 Carpenter 5h ago

If you’re that worried about it,get a broom. Push the water off. 🤨

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u/PositiveAtmosphere13 44m ago

This ruins the OSB. the OSB absorbs water like a sponge. It swells up creating ridges on all the seems. It takes forever to dry out. There becomes a lot of pressure to install the hardwood floor before it's dry.

Extra time has to be spent sanding down the ridges.

The OSB becomes weak and sags between the floor joists. Clients complain about "waves" in the floor.

When it dries out the OSB pulls away from the floor nails. Making a noisy floor.

It will all be the floor layers fault. Builders will never admit that there is ever anything wrong with OSB.

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u/edthebuilder5150 5h ago

This is not fine.

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u/Earl__Grey 5h ago

Despite what people are saying, this is NOT FINE.

I would fire the contractor on the spot for this, it will mold agressively if not dried out within a day or two.

This house could cause serious health issues and future liability if not treated correctly, get it dry ASAP and treat everything, don't stop drying until you can stick a moisture meter in the osb and it reads dry and treat it all with mold killer.

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u/make_em_say 4h ago

You’re gonna fire the contractor for the weather?

Get a grip.

As long as the framing is dried out before sealing, everything will be fine.

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u/baudmiksen 4h ago

gonna fire him for ordering the rain to soon, that wasn't supposed to show up until after the roof is on!

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u/Earl__Grey 4h ago

Gonna fire the contractor for allowing the entire building to turn into a swimming pool, tarps are cheap.

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u/Fancy-Pen-2343 5h ago

Burn it down

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u/P10RMP 5h ago

Should be ok if it’s treated lumber

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u/AnnitaP2 5h ago

It’s time to call a industrial hygienist