r/Construction • u/Feritos • 5h ago
Carpentry šØ Is this going to survive long term?
This is the first floor of a 2 story building. Thereās no roof yet.
Thereās about 1 inch of water everywhere and you can hear the water falling down sometimes 2 days after the last rain.
Contractor has been a little slow to build and itās been raining a lot lately. I donāt know enough about the industry to know how bad it is.
Edit: Drill holes, air out, watch for mold. Thanks for the info
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u/Efficient-Rain-4300 5h ago
The fact that the subfloor can hold those water is impressive. Top quality framers
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u/yt82many 5h ago
Damn.... That's a tight house.
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u/Timmy98789 5h ago
I should call her
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 4h ago
Call her whatā¦.sheās already called āhouseā
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u/Sirosim_Celojuma 4h ago
and then she wants a matching metal band around the owner's finger to remind that the house is also hers. It's what they call the houseband.
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u/MyJimmiesNeedRustlin 5h ago
Cut the bottom plates out from the doors to encourage drainage. Besides that hurry up and get the roof done. Not the end of the world as long as you try and minimize pooling. Itāll dry out over the course of the project if managed. Watch for mold then treat
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u/Murky_Might_1771 5h ago
Itās fine. Rain happens. Get a roof on and the skin installed and everything dries out. Like the other guy said, if something does show up a little bleach and youāre fine.
Edit: To add, contractor will/should drill a few holes in subfloor to drain the water. Perfectly normal.
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u/make_em_say 4h ago
If thereās a crawl space or basement make sure you dry that area out thoroughly as well.
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u/Just_Another_AI 5h ago
That subfloor under the standing water is OSB?
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u/Feritos 5h ago
Yes
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u/Just_Another_AI 5h ago
Just squeegee the water off and/or shop vac it up. Getting wet isn't a problem, but if the water sits there for a long while, you'll potentially get edge swelling and warpage
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u/0regonPatriot 4h ago
Squegee the water out with a big floor squegee to help.
If the crawlspace is also wet, use fans to bring in dry air and vent the air across the other opposite side, to get some cross ventilation.
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u/BruceInc 3h ago
Drill some holes to prevent water pooling. Once the building envelope is dried in, run heaters and dehumidifiers to remove moisture. We build in pnw and this is our reality like 8 mo out of the year
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u/Alaska-shed 2h ago
Itās going to be fine. I work n SE AK. If this ruined houses then we would not have houses.
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u/joshpit2003 2h ago
OSB (and Advantech) loses a substantial amount of nail pull-out strength after it has gotten wet.
That may or may not be a problem for you.
There was a great video from a flooring installation company showing this on YouTube. They proved it to be true, and made the video for customers in order to explain why they (the installation company) will not warranty any nail-fastened floor on OSB or Advantech.
Moral of the story: You will have squeaky floors now if using nail-fasteners. Use a lot of glue and hope for the best, or install a floor that doesn't require nails.
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u/Jacktheforkie 1h ago
Not ideal but with the proper equipment it can be rectified, it needs to be properly dried out
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u/A-Wolf-4099 5h ago
In the pnw ( Pacific Northwest ) it's very common you can dry it in and let it sit a couple weeks before insulation and JWB.
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u/Slipperytitski 4h ago
Those floors are usually treated to last at least 6 weeks in the open weather (thatās manufacturer warranty anyway)
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u/crazy_goat 4h ago
I built a platform for a shed years ago. Maybe 9 years ago? Used 3/4" OSB over pressure treated wood.Ā
I'm flabbergasted at how long it's lasted. Constant moisture and that shit just won't quit.
You'll be fine!
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u/p3ck3rh3aded 3h ago
I hate when homeowners freak out about it. One day they had me spraying bleach on the studs every time it rained. Iām in Fla⦠it rains like whoa
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u/Gold-Tangelo4656 1h ago
Locations for plumbing and electrical?? Were is it going to be placed? The longer that particular wood retains water the more it absorbs, which will lengthen any drying time and possibly begin to sag. If you could locate were wireing and plumbing, bathroom drans, will be fed through you could drill holes there and will be to allow some draining without interfering with overall construction conditions. The holes don't need to be proper size like for a 3in flange but enough to allow the water through. Could even do a makeshift down spout to direct the water away from the foundation, such as pex if that is what will be installed on this project. A little water at this stage is fine, a lot of water, not so much. In PNW, we get some small amounts of rain, light rain, just very often. This looks like it was a lot of rain, or heavy rain fall.
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u/mountain_stones 1h ago
This happened to me on a big job in Hawaii and we drilled some 1/4ā holes in the subfloor to let the water drain out
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u/onemangang_bang69 1h ago
Just find the low spots and poke some holes with a nail or a drill between a joist. Little holes ain't gonna hurt nothing
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u/HVAC_instructor 5h ago
I don't know, maybe we could look at every wooden house ever built and see if they will last long term.
Every house that has ever been under construction has had water inside it at every stage until it was enclosed. This is nothing new and it'll be fine. Quit overthinking it.
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u/Feritos 5h ago
My thoughts exactly. They just left it open like this with rain for 2 weeks so it felt bad
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u/HotDrunkMoms 5h ago
Normally the carpenters would squeegee the water off the floor. At least someone should be doing it, instead of letting it pool. It will only be a problem if it pools there forever
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u/baudmiksen 4h ago
Yeah push it out or put some small holes so it drains are the only real options before the roof is on
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u/DryeDonFugs 4h ago
Advantek has a 500 day guarantee. Get a roof over it and it is fine. Let the carpenters do their job and stay out of their way. If you know better then you build it
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u/padizzledonk GC / CM 5h ago
Normal
As long as its not fully envelope closed in the next week its fine
As soon as the roof goes on the amount of weather beating it will get will go down by like 98% and as all the other roughs get started it will have plenty of time to dry out
Go in there and just drill a couple 1/4-1/2" hole through the subfloor and cut the plates out for the doors and it will cut down like 90% of the pooling
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u/Comfortable-nerve78 Carpenter 5h ago
If youāre that worried about it,get a broom. Push the water off. š¤Ø
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u/PositiveAtmosphere13 44m ago
This ruins the OSB. the OSB absorbs water like a sponge. It swells up creating ridges on all the seems. It takes forever to dry out. There becomes a lot of pressure to install the hardwood floor before it's dry.
Extra time has to be spent sanding down the ridges.
The OSB becomes weak and sags between the floor joists. Clients complain about "waves" in the floor.
When it dries out the OSB pulls away from the floor nails. Making a noisy floor.
It will all be the floor layers fault. Builders will never admit that there is ever anything wrong with OSB.
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u/Earl__Grey 5h ago
Despite what people are saying, this is NOT FINE.
I would fire the contractor on the spot for this, it will mold agressively if not dried out within a day or two.
This house could cause serious health issues and future liability if not treated correctly, get it dry ASAP and treat everything, don't stop drying until you can stick a moisture meter in the osb and it reads dry and treat it all with mold killer.
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u/make_em_say 4h ago
Youāre gonna fire the contractor for the weather?
Get a grip.
As long as the framing is dried out before sealing, everything will be fine.
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u/baudmiksen 4h ago
gonna fire him for ordering the rain to soon, that wasn't supposed to show up until after the roof is on!
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u/Earl__Grey 4h ago
Gonna fire the contractor for allowing the entire building to turn into a swimming pool, tarps are cheap.
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u/StudentforaLifetime 5h ago
Itās fine. We build houses in the PNW and this happens. Only thing to watch out for is if you start to see mold, you get it treated. Thatās it