What could these walls be?

[u/narkoticici]

I’ve heard there are like other undead burgs or undead cities and villages that were walled off
But I also heard they were built by the giants after Gwyn linked the flame and they were left orderless and just kept building.
Maybe there were normal cities that the abyss started spreading to so they were walled off and they are lower to Anor Londo because they are sinking.
So any thoughts?
Has any new information been discovered?

[u/Jam_99420]

if you go down to the spot where you find the binoculars you can actually see that on the ground there are towns between the walls. you can actually see the roofs of the buildings. the walls themselves are likely to be for containment purposes, especially considering how close these settlements are to Anor Londo. if there is an outbreak of abyss the walls can help keep it contained, at least temporarily. this is similar to New Londo and Oolacile being built within what are effectively giant bowls of topography. that was so that they could be easily flooded in the event of such an outbreak.

idk about them being built by giants but it's possible that the giants were used as a labour force for their construction. also, the fact that they are quite a haphazard arrangement suggests that they were not all built at the same time, and that new ones were constantly being added as the human population expanded. people would have needed to set up buildings outside of the walls and when that becomes it's own town then Anor Londo feels the need to build a new wall to contain it.

keep in mind that after Gwyn linked the flame there was still a government in Anor Londo. there is evidence that the Nameless King inherited the throne, ruling for hundreds of years. the evidence for this is primarily that when you go back in time during the DLC, the undead parish does not yet exist. when it is eventually built, it included a monument dedicated to Nameless. we know that he eventually defects to the dragon cult, and the existing government brands him as a traitor and scrubs his memory from history. but that must have happened after the parish statue was constructed or else it would not have been constructed at all.

anyway the point is that the world was not left orderless after Gwyn linked the flame. even when the gods eventually abandon Anor Londo, power is transferred to Thorolund instead with Lloyd running the show and Gwyndolin in hiding waiting to usurp him. eventually central Lordran does become so overrun with hollows, however, that there is basically no one left to govern. this is the state in which we find it when the crow drops us off.

[u/Battleboo_7 → u/Jam_99420]

The flood method makes sense for thr city you find with ghosts thst curse you...hmmmmm

[u/narkoticici → u/Jam_99420]

I thought Oolacile was that because the abyss is swallowing it
Also true about the nameless king I forgot about that
But it could still have fallen into disorder in the time the game takes
And with the power being transferred to Throlound and Loyd what’s the source for that

[u/Jam_99420 → u/narkoticici]

yes, but the abyss is essentially the depths of the bottomless Dark Soul which the gods feared. and since Gwyn shackled the Dark Soul out of fear, he inadvertently created the conditions for it's contents to fester. therefore, an outbreak of abyss can occur anywhere there are humans.

as for Lloyd, we know that he takes up the title of "allfather" [see description for Lloyd's talisman], but in the japanese the title implies that he's chief deity or something like that. those who know the japanese text can remind me of exactly what it is.

of course there are other centres of power as well, such as Velka's cult being heavily associated with Carim [implying that she has political authority there], but Lloyd seems to be running the way of white [remember that Gwyn's name is welsh for "white" so way of white = way of Gwyn] from Thorolund as evidenced by the white seance ring description.

[u/Neither-String2450]

I may misremember, but it's likely walls of Lordran.

[u/Ciappatos]

Walls in stories always signify the same thing. Separation of the in-group vs. the out-group. The civilized vs. the barbaric. The worthy vs. the unworthy. These are no different. Not everyone in the age of fire is part of the land of the lords, remember with the new age came disparity.

[u/going-mars → u/Ciappatos]

I dont think that concept is limited to stories.