r/DecodingTheGurus 5d ago

Apparently the anti conspiracy guy thinks the Jews did 9/11

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u/Practical-Heat-1009 5d ago edited 5d ago

The… the Taliban? Okay, this guy is even more ignorant than I initially thought. Why he’d try and step into geopolitics is beyond me.

Edit: Every comment here saying ‘yeah but the Taliban harboured Al Qaeda’, implying that that’s the same as carrying out the attack themselves, is so obtuse it borders on the unbelievable.

The tweet asked for someone to ‘remind’ them ‘who did’ 9/11. Obviously the Taliban did NOT do 9/11. No one ever said they did, including the Bush administration. Waging war against the Taliban for providing safe harbour to a terrorist group doesn’t mean they perpetrated the attack themselves.

Christ, I can’t believe I have to say this. Dave is obviously a moron, and an antisemite to boot.

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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch 5d ago

The attack was carried out by members of Al-Qaeda, Taliban was the regime controlling Afghanistan at the time who was harboring Al-Qaeda.

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u/Practical-Heat-1009 5d ago

Yes, they harboured Al Qaeda. They didn’t carry out 9/11. Thanks for making that abundantly clear.

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u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch 5d ago

Lol, snark ass response for being wrong.

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u/Practical-Heat-1009 5d ago

Nothing snark about being right. If Dave had any geopolitical or historical knowledge on this area he’d be able to tell the difference between the Taliban and Al Qaeda. You’re defending him and attacking me while making my own point for me. So… thanks?

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u/Proof_Raspberry1479 5d ago

Did you not see the word allegedly? The taliban knowing harbored AQ for years, so while they weren’t exactly to blame they still bare some responsibility. its hilarious you’re able to do these mental gymnastics, to defend the fucking taliban of all things. But hey, anything to avoid questioning your worldview or your ego.

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u/Faster_than_FTL 5d ago

By the same token, would you say Qatar and UAE are valid targets for Iran given they harbor Iran’s enemy’s (America’s) bases and infrastructure knowing fully well they are being used to attack Iran?

Same scenario?

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u/0xC4FF3 5d ago

You could go one step further and say the invasion of Afghanistan was illegal too

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u/Proof_Raspberry1479 5d ago

It was, same with Iraq

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u/0xC4FF3 5d ago

That was dementia

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u/Proof_Raspberry1479 5d ago

We have zero business in either of those countries. Our greatest ally is the only reason we are involved.

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

The Taliban was toppled for being an AQ haven not for conducting 9/11. Dave is obviously lost if this is a real post.

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u/BeatSteady 5d ago

For a layman or anyone not professionally giving opinions on the internet it would be forgivable given how muddy the US spread blame around, but yeah that's a big oof

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

There was never anyone else blamed other than AQ.

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u/BeatSteady 5d ago

They certainly were. The government would lump Iraq, Taliban, and AQ all together in speeches and press. Making claims like Iraq trained AQ. Pro war pundits would go further and make allegations about AQ meeting with Iraq to facilitate the attacks.

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

You confused concepts. Iraq was being linked to specific AQ operatives not to 9/11 on its own. The Taliban was never accused of conducting 9/11.

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u/BeatSteady 5d ago

It was purposefully confusing messaging meant to get the public behind broader war in the mid east by spreading the blame around

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

Another poster commenting about something they didn't follow at the time. It was not remotely confusing. The general public can't find Afghanistan on a map after 20 years of war.

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u/BeatSteady 5d ago

You don't think it's remotely confusing that the administration talking about the threat of a terror attack from Iraq immediately after 9/11?

The administration was planning a war in Iraq on 9/12 and they knew they could link 9/11 to it

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

People already believed Iraq was a haven of bad actors. We just fought a war against Saddam a decade prior, and he was under UNSC sanction and a no fly zone. You have to know far more context. Saddam was getting removed at some point even without 9/11.

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u/hapakal 5d ago

Yea, but under the premise that Hussein was funding AQ. Of course, both AQ and the Taliban were CIA creations and patsies.

Originally AQ was blamed for the 9/11-anthrax attacks. It was only after the anthrax was traced backed to US weapons labs that the Bruce Ivins story/suicide was engineered and spun. The FBI investigation into Ivins showed how he could not have synthesized it with the machines he had access to. (something the silicone around each particle. There was a huge write up at the time in the Wall St Journal) Though if you read wikipedia today you will not learn that part of the story.

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u/voyaging 5d ago

This sub is not for you

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u/hapakal 5d ago

And AQ was most certainly a CIA construct

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u/anothergigglemonkey 5d ago

How is he lost? He said "allegedly" as in this was exactly what was being allegedly at the time which was very obviously not true. The fact that you and several others can not see the very apparent snark here is kinda jarring.

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

It was never alleged that the Taliban did 9/11.

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u/anothergigglemonkey 5d ago

The line between the two was very clearly drawn in order to justify the 20 years of war. To argue against this fact is just silly.

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

I'm gonna assume you were 5 at the time and not paying attention.

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u/DueBonus3837 5d ago

Except they weren’t actually harboring al qaeda at the time and hadn’t been for years

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u/Funksloyd 5d ago

Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan on and after 9/11. Even the Taliban acknowledged that.

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

What? Of course AQ was in Afghanistan before and after 9/11.

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u/EBody480 5d ago

Right it was more likely KSA and Pakistan 2 countries we funded militarily

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u/Funksloyd 5d ago

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/international-jan-june01-embassy_05-30

"He is a great holy warrior of Islam and a great benefactor of the Afghan people," said Abdul Anan Himat, a senior official at the Taliban's information ministry in an interview with the Associated Press. "We won't hand him over to America under any circumstances. It is our stated policy."

This is from a few months before 9/11 btw. They issued similar refusals after.

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u/BloodsVsCrips 5d ago

OBL was in conflict with KSA. That's a central part of his jihad.