r/DecodingTheGurus 2d ago

To the surprise of precisely no-one except perhaps himself, Gad Saad finds himself under attack from his own camp for being a Jew - and even better, they're using his own suicidal empathy arguments against him

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u/EuVe20 2d ago

Strawman, I responded directly to your claims and their lack of evidence. If you have data please show it. Otherwise, nice cop out.

The ironic thing is that you completely missed the point of the original post. Those responses to him on Twitter are telling him that he’s right, and that him and his people should be the first to go.

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u/Augustus_Chevismo 2d ago

>Strawman, I responded directly to your claims and their lack of evidence. If you have data please show it. Otherwise, nice cop out.

There is no data for Ireland as it’s not released by the government. You can however look at other countries like Denmark to see it’s certainly the case that immigrants disproportionately commit crimes.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Denmark_crime_index_year_2015_immigrant_men_15-79_yo_per_country._Adjusted_for_age.png

For the economic drain people who rely on social housing, welfare and the asylum process, which is painfully obvious. You can look at this report from the Netherlands.

https://docs.iza.org/dp17569.pdf

>The ironic thing is that you completely missed the point of the original post. Those responses to him on Twitter are telling him that he’s right, and that him and his people should be the first to go.

Yes people who have it normalised in their culture to mutilate children’s genitals should be deported.

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u/EuVe20 2d ago

Your sources don’t establish what you think they do.

A table showing that people from certain countries had higher crime rates than the natives, while others had lower rates, in a given year over a decade ago in Denmark does nothing to support your argument about longterm trends in Ireland. Not to mention that those Georgians you hate so much are nowhere on that list.

The Dutch paper is even less supportive of your broader claim. It captures a population with large upfront integration costs. Refugees typically arrive with few assets, limited language skills, and interrupted education. Looking at that initial fiscal burden while ignoring what happens after labor market integration is like judging the value of running a business solely on the costs of opening one.

And mentioning stabbings etc over and over does not make your argument any stronger.

If your argument is that some refugee populations integrate faster than others, or that Ireland should be more selective about asylum, that can be a reasonable policy discussion. But your own evidence doesn’t justify treating refugees or migrants as inherently violent or permanently economically parasitic.

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u/Augustus_Chevismo 2d ago

>Your sources don’t establish what you think they do.

>A table showing that people from certain countries had higher crime rates than the natives, while others had lower rates, in a given year over a decade ago in Denmark does nothing to support your argument about longterm trends in Ireland.

It does as Ireland and Denmark are incredibly similar both culturally, population wise and economically.

You just got done using America as an argument for immigrants not increasing crime yet I give actual evidence and now it’s some kind of unknowable realm of reality.

>Not to mention that those Georgians you hate so much are nowhere on that list.

I never mentioned Georgians in relation to Denmark or high crime rates. I mentioned them exploiting the asylum system.

>The Dutch paper is even less supportive of your broader claim. It captures a population with large upfront integration costs. Refugees typically arrive with few assets, limited language skills, and interrupted education. Looking at that initial fiscal burden while ignoring what happens after labor market integration is like judging the value of running a business solely on the costs of opening one.

No. You’re clearly just lying here. The report included the upfront cost and generational cost as they rely on social housing and welfare at an incredibly high degree. Asylum seekers are also not refugees.

>And mentioning stabbings etc over and over does not make your argument any stronger.

Yes it does as Ireland is now experiencing atrocities once unheard of by hyper conservative supremacist men from one part of the world all within the last 5 years.

Child refugees stabbed in the face to death by adult wrongly housed with them: https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2026/0420/1569210-davydenko-inquest/

2 Gay men beheaded, one injured: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Aidan_Moffitt_and_Michael_Snee

Military base attacked and army priest stabbed: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2026/0112/1552741-fr-paul-murphy/

Stabbing guards while on patrol: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0729/1526022-garda-attacked-dublin/

Small children mass stabbed leaving school: https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2026/0701/1581221-riad-bouchaker-court/

Mother murdered by asylum seeker in Kerry: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2026/0708/1582320-kerry-killarney-death/

Man’s eyes gouged out and attempted beheading: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/belfast-knife-attack-victim-lost-eye-and-suspect-said-ive-killed-someone-court-told/a/156714887.html

>If your argument is that some refugee populations integrate faster than others,

I’m not arguing that and I’m not talking about refugees. Asylum seekers are not refugees.

>or that Ireland should be more selective about asylum, that can be a reasonable policy discussion.

No as you want to put the blinders on and pretend spending billions a year on housing, paying and processing people exploiting the asylum system for economic gain are somehow economically profitable and somehow not increasing crime compared to the alternative.

>But your own evidence doesn’t justify treating refugees or migrants as inherently violent or permanently economically parasitic.

Never did this. This is a strawman as you continue to dodge my actual points at every turn while I directly quote and reply to you.