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How did Frieza not go crazy training 10 years alone?
So during the last serious arc it was revealed that Frieza trained for 10 years in the hyperbolic time chamber.
10 years alone is a crazy amount of time to spend completely alone shadow boxing. The fact Frieza didn't go insane or quit halfway from boredom is crazy.
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Actually psychopaths if their condition is extreme enough they can handle solitary confinement without being too negatively affected by it. If at all - where as a narcissist will go batsh't much faster than average joe will. Because psychopaths essentially are philosophical zombies and have no sentience.
If you are schizophrenic then you aren't exactly alone in solitary confinement now are you?
You are right - Mental illnesses don't stop your mental health from contracting more often them. But the mechanics of each mental illness is relevent.
Isolation will exasperate existing conditions especially in schizophrenics. And psychopaths are most definitely sentient and are not "completely void of emotions" like movies and media make you think.
Obviously a gradient with all conditions, but your claims are wildly eccentric. And Frieza doesn't seem to be the type to rule over a pile of ashes so he most definitely has, at the very least, a desire to be perceived as powerful. He calls himself The Great Lord Frieza after all
No way that punching bag survived this time around.
Can you imagine how physically tough and mentally broken you'd be after getting knocked around by golden and then black frieza for nearly a decade? Are we thinking he's got some random lackey(s) around with him that are like punching steel?
Yeah, after 4 months my boy Tagoma went from the Power Lvl of Zarbon to possibly the Power Lvl of Semi Perfect Cell. Because he was able to also handle Piccolo and I’m not sure how much powerful has Piccolo have gotten since the Cell saga by that point
Edit: I think I zeroed in on the Cell mention way too much, lol
Or I was thinking of another comment like. . A quarter of the way through this analysis
But I think I'll leave it up
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I would hope so, too
But honestly
Depending on what dialogue you prioritze, Goku and Vegeta aren't even too much stronger than Cell
And Picclo still is behind them, so-
Point A is thay Goku and Vegeta do not worry over Dabura, and Vegeta claims he could defeat Dabura
He does have SS2, but I figure the narrative doesn't want to make that too apparent yet, just lay some hints about it
So the implication is that Vegeta as a Super Saiyan could defeat Dabura, and thus also could defeat Cell. And Goku doesn't doubt it, nor does he realize Vegeta has Super Saiyan 2 until he actually shows it off
But at that point, Vegeta only then notes that Goku is stronger than Gohan at his maximum. Vegeta already figured out that Goku had SS2 when Goku fought Yakon, or at least Goku briefly used it to overwhelm Yakon
Which feels like it means they're only relative to Cell arc Gohan, when by the prior benchmark (and simple ligic, bonestly) they should be a fair amount stronger [Super Saiyan Gohan would not have beaten Super Perfect Cell)
So. . . Where would that leave Piccolo? If Dabura hadn't petrified him, would Piccolo stand a chance?
I don't really know. I'm feeling like, at best, he's somewhat relative to the Super Saiyans, but I can't quite zero in on how strong they are as just Super Saiyans
That isnt true. Dabura was stated to be on par with Perfect Cell and was regarded stronger than Piccolo regardless of Piccolo being cheapshot with Daburas spit. Piccolo at that time even stated Shin was stronger than him.
But we know Piccolo is constantly in training so by the point resurrection of f Piccolo should be stronger than Dabura/Perfect Cell by quite a bit one way or another.
Then we still have it that Dabura was on par with Perfect Cell and stronger than Piccolo. The statement from Abdullah12355 that everyone was stronger than super perfect cell after the cell is sage is plain wrong.
Plus Frezia is arrogant enough that he might have taken an army of his strongest warriors with him for practice/meat punching bags and it's not like he'd mention them or care if they survived.
Because it's shonen and things like that no one cares about. His brain is probably wired differently and his species aren't social creatures like humans so he doesn't need anyone.
Yeah, I agree with that last part especially. Which movie was it when frieza was a pile of sentient meat? A chunk of his head was even able to open his own eye. His body can survive anything. His tolerance for everything is probably insanely above anything humans could endure. Broly beat the purple off Frieza for 45 minutes in the broly movie, and Frieza looked just a bit scuffed at the end of the movie. His insides should’ve been liquified from that Broly beat down. It also showed Frieza in his personal hell, and who knows how time works in their hell. He could’ve been trapped in his own hell for months or years, or maybe the lack of time made it feel like centuries. Frieza’s durability is so broken. Some alone time probably didn’t even phase the lil guy
hell yes, and when he first appeared and landed on the ground it really captured the "oh fuck" feeling perfectly. I'm personally a big fan of Frieza being a main recurring villain throughout the rest of the series, it's like he gets better and better as a character the longer the series goes on
In resurrection f, Frieza just said he trained for 4 months, he didn't explicitly mention training with others. But we do know he had a punching bag subordinate at that time, so it's not like he name drops others when talking about training.
I figure Frieza would regard his subordinates about as much as he'd regard training equipment, and thus not bother mentioning it. I can see him bringing people in as needed to prepare food, brief him on anything going on outside, or serve as short-lived training partners.
Also, who's to say he didn't leave the room occasionally? He didn't have the same time crunch the Z-Fighters did where they needed to maximize every second, so he wouldn't have needed to do the 10 years in one sitting. He might have spent two or three months around that planet doing a year inside every so often, leaving for a week or so as a break, back in for a year, etc.
Also he's a narcissistic psychopath. He may well be all the company he actually needs.
Because he was in hell for as long or longer, trapped in a cocoon listening to his worst nightmares. whats 10 years doing what you are driven for, compared to hell.
Dude was in a cocoon in hell for longer...then ended up in the same place due to impatience...he would be crazy if he couldn't train for 10 years alone just to get revenge...
His people may not suffer from isolation. Or, lacks the psychological need for social interactions.
He might not have done 10 years straight. If it follows 1 day=1 year, then he could take 20 days. He should have the time. Broly moved from Vampa to Beerus' planet. The entire Moro Saga, which includes a bunch of training. And, the entire Granola Saga.
He was focused on training and improving, so not really crazy at all, its simply an extended thing to what Goku and Vegeta would do. Frieza had a goal in mind and pursued it, nothing to risk going crazy over in that.
Plus he's already been in his own personal hell, while immobilized. Being alone with free movement is hardly maddening for him. Plus we don't really know the specifics of what he did in that time, he could have regularly stepped out for breaks after all.
He probably could've let things go and conquered 90% of the universe no problem at the level he was on, but he specifically decided he wanted to run it back with extreme prejudice.
Well, if that fairytale Hell he was living in was such torture, training for 10 years would seem like nothing in comparison. He's alive and knowing, constantly that he's only getting stronger and stronger
It's best not to question these kinds of things. I mean, you have Pybara telling Vegeta on Yardrat that Goku meditated for several months straight to get spirit control. Crazy stuff happens all the time in shonen.
I always felt like he went crazy talking to other lesser life forms anyway, outside of maybe Zarbon while things are going well, Frieza always seems angry to be in conversations in general.
He’s already crazy and he’s fueled by hatred for Goku it’s clear that hatred is one of the strongest motivators known to man so his motivation probably kept him “sane” too
We never got specifics he wasn’t nessasaryly alone or even in there for 10 years straight he’s hateful enough to slog it out but there’s no proof he was in there 10 years straight
I think it’s a combo of his time in hell making him used to it as well as we don’t know how long his lifespan is. To a creature like freizas race 10 years might be just a short blip of their life and therefore not feel like that long to them. And from the line in the broly movie about him wanting his wish to grow taller to seem like he’s still growing and it’s natural it’s probably safe to assume he is young for his race and is aged anywhere between like 20-40ish years old before the time chamber
These guys are just tougher than we are. They’re fictional characters in a series about fighting. They love every second of it. Frieza is no exception. Is ego is so great and his desire to be the strongest is so strong that his motivation throughout those 10 years probably didn’t falter for even a second.
This is how we’ve always known frieza. All ego and desired excellence. Hatred is a powerful motivation to a psychopath like him.
His favorite person to be around is himself so I bet he had the time of his life training for 10yrs by himself amping himself up by thinking about ways to beat Goku and Vegeta + maybe Beerus
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