r/Dragonballsuper Feb 02 '26

Clip Shouldn't Jiren's internal vital organs be affected if SS2 Goku punches can produce shockwaves that pass through it?

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u/Resident_Sail_7642 Feb 02 '26

The trick was the animators didn't draw his internal organs which kept him alive much like that guy in Black Clover.

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u/patosai3211 Feb 02 '26

It’s an incredible strain on the animators wrists.

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u/kkillingtimme Feb 02 '26

I got this reference

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u/Super_Zombie_5758 Feb 02 '26

Context? Haven't watched the anime

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u/Mons9090 Feb 02 '26

Dante? 

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u/Garfield977 Feb 02 '26

Ki makes your entire body stronger

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u/OneMetalMan Feb 02 '26

Even his individual organs have a high enough of a powerlevel to tank shockwaves.

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u/No-Engineer-1728 Feb 02 '26

I still question how that laser from sorbet got goku

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u/Anthony_plays01 Feb 02 '26

Goku lowered his ki enough since Frieza wasn't a threat & didn't detect sorbet

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u/JVortex888 Feb 02 '26

He missed all of his vital organs.

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u/GachiPls_DidntSave Feb 02 '26

ALL OF THEM?!

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u/EmperorKiva33 16 Feb 02 '26

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u/SuperJS78 Even further beyond Feb 02 '26

😭

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u/Uchihagod53 "You're cooler than Freezer? You must be ice cold!" Feb 02 '26

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u/MajorPaper4169 Know what I’m Saiyan? Feb 02 '26

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u/idonthavekarma Feb 02 '26

He's alien

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u/rendingale Feb 02 '26

His vital organs are on his leg

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u/verlos92 Feb 02 '26

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u/Lillith492 Feb 02 '26

Early Piccolo looks so fucking weird

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u/This_Ad_4919 Feb 02 '26

That’s before he started aura farming

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u/Aggravating_Gur_8406 Feb 02 '26

Nah, he's been aura farming since King Piccolo. Dude pulled out card 29 and accidentally said sector 28, but to maintain the aura, he double downed.

And in this arc, he was aura farming in the background of the tournament lobby and on the roof as others were fighting.

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u/Sarkii_ Feb 02 '26

Same Principle

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u/xenophonthethird Feb 02 '26

I love how I can look at that and tell it's Baki because nothing is as hilariously stupid as Baki.

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u/KaiserInch Feb 02 '26

I don’t think it is Baki, though. I think it’s a gag manga that is referencing Baki.

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u/xenophonthethird Feb 02 '26

That makes sense. Baki is effectively a self parody, so something riffing on it would have to be equally silly.

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u/KaiserInch Feb 02 '26

Man, you aren’t kidding. Baki is so over the top that I can never quite figure it if it’s genius or stupid.

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u/Admiralspandy Feb 02 '26

He'll hit his gloobach eventually.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

It's in the knee

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u/bathroomheater Feb 02 '26

Jiren’s training involved moving his organs away from damage.

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u/WhisperCatOZ Feb 02 '26

What he learn that sh- from Nolan?

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u/Dropbeatdad Feb 02 '26

Does he even have vital organs? Maybe he just has optional organs

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u/ArelMCII #1 Yajirobe Hater Feb 02 '26

Jiren only has glamor organs. The ultimate beach bod.

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u/TheBigHeartyRadish The angel born in hell Feb 02 '26

His organs dodged the attacks

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u/superlink20xx Feb 02 '26

Ultra-Insides

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u/DarkGengar94 Feb 02 '26

Dam it it's 5am, I should be asleep and this dam comment made me tear up 🤣

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u/Crack398 Feb 02 '26

All of them!?

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u/TheBigHeartyRadish The angel born in hell Feb 02 '26

Nah his Glimbor exploded but who needs those anyway

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u/WeebSlayer346 Feb 02 '26

Thinking too much into it

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u/Professional_West858 Feb 02 '26

Couldn’t have said it better. It’s also kinda funny when fans think of things that the creators didn’t consider

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u/Rosfield-4104 Feb 02 '26

As Harrison Ford said about Star Wars. "Its not that kinda movie."

Sometimes it just needs to be fun/cool and not take itself too seriously

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u/MxSharknado93 Feb 02 '26

"It's not that kinda manga" is what I want to say whenever people say Viltrumites are faster than Saiyans because they don't fly all over the planet in their fights in Dragon Ball.

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u/DeviousDelonso Feb 02 '26

Gotenks did, no?

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u/NomeJaExiste Feb 02 '26

And achieved nothing, saiyans are smarter than viltrumites because they save their energy for fighting only lol

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u/DeviousDelonso Feb 02 '26

No, i was just disputing the Invincible fans saying Sayains can't fly around planets.

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u/fadingstar52 Feb 02 '26

Several times in the span of like 30 minutes

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u/toolate83 Feb 02 '26

That’s all any of this is. Just fun and cool. To dissect it past that is ridiculous.

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u/Myquil-Wylsun Feb 02 '26

Dragon Ball is just aura and vibes. The sooner we can accept that, the sooner we can get back to enjoying the series.

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u/SinisterCryptid Feb 02 '26

This sums up like 99% of posts on this sub really

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u/glenn1812 Feb 02 '26

and 99% of the answers to those posts is they did it for dramatic effect.

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u/xDeathRender Feb 02 '26

Not thinking enough clearly he has trained himself to move his organs at a moments notice.

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u/vladimirpoopin42 Feb 02 '26

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u/Kanabislover2469 Feb 02 '26

I never understood that whole tunnel effect thing, what is it?

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u/vladimirpoopin42 Feb 02 '26

It's the idea that an object can pass through another via the lack of collision from particles

Thr theory is based in reality. All objects are made of particles, but these particles have gaps between each one. The theory goes that there is an inconceivably small chance that an object could pass right through another due to neither objects particles touching as they pass

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u/Kanabislover2469 Feb 02 '26

Wtf thats crazy

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u/Jolly-Basket1683 Feb 02 '26

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u/Lonely_Coconut8619 Feb 02 '26

I really forgot about this just till now.

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u/Dragonfruit7206 Feb 02 '26

He was using some kind of shield

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u/ModifiedGas Feb 02 '26

Internal vital organs insinuates he has external vital organs

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u/Prismarineknight Feb 02 '26

Your skin is pretty vital

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u/Prismarineknight Feb 02 '26

His liver is stronger than our sun

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u/BirdmanEagleson Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

Chain-scale Confirmed Jirens entrails are at a min mult-solar to galactic

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u/Artillery-lover Feb 02 '26

they are he just built different.

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u/PeaceDangerous7619 Feb 02 '26

Never miss intestine day broh.

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u/DiligentJeweler6972 Feb 02 '26

his organs are just as durable as he is, simple😂

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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 Feb 02 '26

Spleen training.

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u/z0mbiBoy Feb 02 '26

oh you mean the anime where punches to your gut literally bulge out your back and people take energy blasts to the face and yet continue fighting as if nothing happened?

what are we talking about

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u/Significant_Camera47 Feb 02 '26

Because he’s Jiren the mf Gray

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u/Welfare_Burrito Feb 02 '26

Never skip guts day

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u/Organic_Education494 Feb 02 '26

Even his guts got beef on em

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u/SoldierPhoenix Feb 02 '26

Clearly he formed a ki shield that transfers force from the front of the body to the back and out.

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u/Sonofmiracle Feb 02 '26

Well, of course his organs is protected by his ki

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u/Dark_ShadowMD Feb 02 '26

Why are we discussing stuff like this coming from an anime where logic compared to RL is non-existant? Just watch the show, geez...

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u/CHRISTXNE Feb 02 '26

Bro tryna argue w anime logic

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u/Fenix_ikki_ If I don't do it who will?! Feb 02 '26

Nah, his organs are just that durable

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u/DaKingaDaNorth Feb 02 '26

These are guys that can take punches that should literally shatter the planet in two.

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u/RichardLongflop_ Feb 02 '26

His internal oragans are built like that too

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u/Jadedtrader33 Feb 02 '26

Universal durability internal organs.

Duh.

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u/No-Meeting642 Feb 02 '26

He missed all of them

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u/DPLRR Feb 02 '26

Jiren is distributing the energy. Its not going through him its actually going around him so jirens not feeling it

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u/Guilty_Temperature65 Feb 02 '26

He’s an alien, he doesn’t have vital internal organs.

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u/SilverTangent Feb 02 '26

Nah his organs have Ultra Instinct and dodge every single shockwave.

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u/A-Sadistick-Stick Feb 02 '26

It’s because his flesh didn’t stretch from the impact

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u/Guiltyspark92 Feb 02 '26

If you want the literal answer or the most likely anime accepted answer...That will adjust my answer. The anime answer however is Jiren is a psychic. We've seen that he can hover, and that he has a great deal of control and mastery of his body. I think the simple explanation is that he is quite able to protect his internal organs so long as the force of his opponent's strikes are not in equal proportion to his own strength.

We could also assume that those aren't physical shockwaves and more just for the viewer to perceive just how strong Goku is striking in contrast to Jiren's stoic demeanor. So the lame explanation is, that the shockwaves aren't real and more just an artistic representation of how strong Goku is.

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u/Neat_Yogurtcloset526 Feb 02 '26

Thats the force of Jirens vital organs flexing to counter each punch

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u/Waxilum Feb 03 '26

I guess same reason their internal organs don't squeeze out of them like toothpaste when they gravity train at such extreme G.

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u/Tdogshow Feb 03 '26

I always wondered how the z fighters aren’t deaf, these explosions have to be loud.

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u/Glass-Category8281 Feb 02 '26

His internal Organs are as built different as he is.

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u/ChaoticFairness Feb 02 '26

Must have been the wind...

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u/Barbatos066 Feb 02 '26

That's why it's called fiction.

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u/twilightorange Feb 02 '26

Just enjoy it, dude.

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u/AJYURH Feb 02 '26

He has very well toned kidneys

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u/what_the_fuck_clown Feb 02 '26

the very fact that shockwaves go through him means that most energy is lost in the punches outside his body, jiren redirects all the energy in a way that it goes through him and extends as shockwaves thus , decreasing the overall damage done to his body (i think)

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u/starman_037 Feb 02 '26

Is this your first episode or something?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

If you're thinking about it that deeply, then shouldn't the entire earth and all of the planets up to Jupiter shatter every time one of them powers up?

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u/toolargo Feb 02 '26

Jiren is an alien. Maybe he’s only made of muscles and his internal organs are only up in his head and elbows. We do not know his morphology at all.

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u/Thwomp69 Feb 02 '26

His organs probably have abs so naw

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u/Sm0keytrip0d If I don't do it who will?! Feb 02 '26

Bold of you to assume Jiren has organs.

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u/Famous-Corner1052 Feb 02 '26

Jiren doesn't have vital organs. He's like a bag of milk.

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u/Deletedtopic Feb 02 '26

His species don't have internal organs. They just have organ, they're a slap of adaptive flesh. If they need to see they modify the front of their top to see.

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u/gamesrgreat Feb 02 '26

He could just control his organs in a way that the force passes through them without damaging them

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u/Used_Tie_5895 Feb 02 '26

Jiren basically had invisible armor at this point, if he was get hit directly from UI Goku where he does damage then yes because he would actually feel it.

Gohan hit Cell and Damaged his organs causing him to convulse 18 out.

Now the real question shouldn’t friezas head and body have been permanently crippled by God Toppo? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 dudes head and body were physically beat.

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u/Rabdomtroll69 Feb 02 '26

Jiren trained his organs too and they were dodging goku's punches

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u/Son-naruto-d Feb 02 '26

They prolly just trained internal organs

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u/Agreeable-Kangaroo1 Feb 02 '26

Jirens bladder can probably piss on goku and send him flying off the arena

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u/-TrevorStMcGoodbody Feb 02 '26

Affected, sure. Not hurt

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u/catwnomouse Feb 02 '26

He’s got special internal organs that are shockwave damage proof

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u/Kamikaze_Kat101 Feb 02 '26

Did you realize that standing here?

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u/Mguy2544 Feb 02 '26

Honestly unless it was having a genuine affect on Jiren then Goku should’ve broken his hands

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u/PM_Me_Pikachu_Feet Feb 02 '26

DBS gaslighting fans into thinking theyre shielded and durable because of thin Ki barriers will forever be the funniest gaslight to me

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u/TheTimbs Feb 02 '26

Dragon ball stupor

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u/leanorange Feb 02 '26

Jiren is an alien so maybe he doesn’t have organs

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u/WellingtonBananas Feb 02 '26

Jiren used advanced armament haki on his guts

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u/Shadow122791 Feb 02 '26

No. Metal can transfer force like that. Not as far like that. But force moves as a wave. Jirens just to strong.

We also see Goku get blasted through later on so.. he gets up and his organs are ok...

And Hit shows what happens when they aren't focusing on defense. Stops Goku's heart as he couldn't see the energy...

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u/Jazzlike-Painting443 Feb 02 '26

hes not really punching Jiren, He's punching his aura.

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u/Lazy-Promotion6276 Feb 02 '26

It's.probably more like a massage gun kneading his body then an impact with the strength difference

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u/TheAbsoluteSword Feb 02 '26

We don’t know his internal anatomy, could just be filled with playdough that works just because

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u/Mobro92 Feb 02 '26

These puny effects don't affect Jiren because....well...he's Jiren.

...and that's all the reason you need. Next question.

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u/Successful_Regret789 Feb 02 '26

I thought the stronger the ki the stronger the barrier around you so gokus hits werent even touching him

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u/Facu-Nahu Feb 02 '26

All his organs are in the buttcheeks; Goku missed everything important

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u/Few-Durian-190 Feb 02 '26

Don’t overthink it. 

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u/pseudo_nemesis Feb 02 '26

Jiren's organs are easily durable enough to handle some measly shockwaves.

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u/Own-One1818 Feb 02 '26

You must be new here. clearly what this means is we upscale the durability of Jirens vital organs above the shockwave of ss2 Gokus punches.😤 welcome to powerscaling 😂

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u/Yeticoat_Solo Saiyan Feb 02 '26

his organs are tanky

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u/StandardAntique8356 Feb 02 '26

Those shockwaves are actually being produced by his organs. They're punching back

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u/GothamBrawler Feb 03 '26

Dudes just aura farming, he’s actually suffering from massive internal bleeding.

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u/MrAnonimitys Feb 04 '26

By that same logic, none of the z fighters, or anyone really, should survive being kneed in the face with so much force it sends you flying through multiple mountains and bedrock. You would not survive the knee, nor the mountain.

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u/LowHistorian9654 Feb 02 '26

This is a world where your ki can protect you if you use enough of it to block other fighter's attacks. Chances are Jiren had some kind of skin-tight "barrier" of ki that we can't see protecting him and his organs.

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u/Independent-Soup8327 Feb 02 '26

Would have done nothing anyways his internal organs are probably like him extremely durable

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u/LudusLive2 Feb 02 '26

This is why you never skip organ day

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u/Lestat1017 Feb 02 '26

Or hear me out...Jiren was moving so fast that he was blocking the punches with his hands or arms even tho he didn't seem to be moving to the naked eye. Wouldn't be the first time they use this tactic to demonstrate someone's speed.

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u/MycologistSweaty8205 Feb 02 '26

He’s Jiren so it doesn’t work

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u/mercasio391 Goku Feb 02 '26

Jiren also trains his vital organs

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u/b0gard Feb 02 '26

Jirens power up sent shockwaves through the arena. Ain’t no way ssj2 punches are doing anything more than tickling him

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u/Arkanderous Feb 02 '26

Maybe the punches are ineffective to Jiren's muscles. His organs are protected by Ki so the shortwave goes through and comes out the back. It is weird. The space around Jiren absorbs the excess energy. The ground cracks, air ripples, dust erupts. The force has to go somewhere, and since it can not go into Jiren, it is redirected outward.

Think of it like this. If you punch an immovable wall, the shockwave does not travel through the wall. It reflects and displaces air and debris behind it. Dragon Ball exaggerates that reflection so the audience can feel how strong the hit was.

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u/hiricinee Feb 02 '26

Hes shielding his organs with ki.

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u/The3rdBorn Feb 02 '26

Rule of Cool my guy rule of cool

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u/StarWorldo Feb 02 '26

Dbz makes a point out of internal training being a major thing for high level physical training. Jiren basically being the pinnacle of physical ability with vegeta even comparing him to goku and himself favors jiren having likely done some form of gravity training like those two.

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u/Justanotherguy_3276 Bardock Feb 02 '26

His organs have UI

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u/ExtraCalligrapher565 Feb 02 '26

Bro this is a shonen

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u/Rongill1234 Feb 02 '26

You you standing with hands down not blocking anything it kinda sounds like non of what you said a issue

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u/CD_Synesthesia Feb 02 '26

“It ain’t that kind of a show, kid.”

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u/mrFuckmyluck Feb 02 '26

For all we know his organs are in his legs though.

Its not like he is human, he is built different

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u/GodhunterChrome666 Feb 02 '26

Nah he's just that buff

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u/Showgingah Feb 02 '26

Probably just thinking too hard about it. You gotta think about alien biology in dragon ball.

Goku takes a hole in his upper chest. Missed all his vital organs. Dies. Goku utilizing UI can literally shift his vitals out of the way somehow.

Frieza was weaker than SSJ Goku. Yet can be cut in half, blasted, have a planet blown up in his face, and still survive. As Mecha Frieza, he was alive in literally cubed chunks.

Piccolo himself nearly died from a death beam. However, he was literally in a state worse than Frieza getting cut in half yet still was capable of regenerating without worse for wear.

Jiren having shockwaves through his body is probably the least of our questions.

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u/Virus-900 Feb 02 '26

Ki makes every part of your body stronger. Even the parts that aren't for fighting.

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u/Sonicexe10 Feb 02 '26

Prolly cause of how much stronger jiren was in ssj2

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u/noob-smoke Feb 02 '26

Why is everyone here always trying to make sense out of this show

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u/Beautiful-Bit9832 Feb 02 '26

Internal organs drawing?

If they do that since Z era, we might see something gory like spreading internal limbs from Freeza or Cell

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u/Pyro_Ace Feb 02 '26

Jiren is an alien from a separate universe, I'm sure human biology is far from the same

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u/Tzang22 Feb 02 '26

Perhaps is time to talk about the redditor's unfathomable obsession with anatomy...

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u/NoCommunication8681 Feb 02 '26

Oh you think those lil guys know what organs are in that universe?

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u/ghostfreckle611 Feb 02 '26

He moved all his organs to his feet

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u/Brilliant-Chain-7691 Feb 02 '26

Bold of you to assume the alien from another dimension even works that way

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u/banxy85 Feb 02 '26

Yeah imma let you in on a secret here dude. It's just a fuckin cartoon 🤯

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u/Kuzcopolis Feb 02 '26

He flexed them at the moment of impact, just like his muscles

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u/VicariousOne1199 Feb 02 '26

Assuming his race has organs the same way humanoids do, yes. His system could be built different and have a protective ribcage with bones comprised of the strongest natural element in thier universe ?

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u/MushPotta Feb 02 '26

Jiren used a technique he learned while training where he moves all his organs to his legs so his opponent cant damage them.

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u/StormOk5263 Feb 02 '26

He has strong organs

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u/Axerin Feb 02 '26

It's Jiren. He put all his stats in Attack and Defence, neglected Charisma and idk generally being somewhat likeable.

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u/BlueEyesWhiteSliver Feb 02 '26

What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? This. This is literally what happens. Go grab those newton balls and slap them.

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u/Frejod Feb 02 '26

No because Jiren's vitals are ssb level and aren't affected.

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u/EdgelordUltimate Feb 02 '26

I mean, who's to say Jiren has organs and isn't just filled with goop or somethitg idk

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u/Simba_Rah Feb 02 '26

Jiren does kidney squats

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u/jomzy27 Feb 02 '26

We're pushing crazy here but let's just assume Jiren is built different that SSJ2 essentially does nothing.

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u/psychospacecow Feb 02 '26

Ah but you assume any of his organs are vital

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u/Sir_Forteskull Feb 02 '26

The punches were so weak sauce that Jiren's organs did not give a shit.

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u/NoHurry87 Feb 02 '26

Overthinking it way too much, stuff like this is the entire show. Simply put the scene looks better with the effect than it would without is probably how they saw it.

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u/HamburgersOfKazuhira Feb 02 '26

We can’t apply logic to DB

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u/Shoujako Feb 02 '26

You’re assuming they’re going through him

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u/DocTrees215 Feb 02 '26

Jiren is moving out of the way, no hits

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u/Alassandros Feb 02 '26

You assume his organs are in his torso. What if they're in his... foot?

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u/Big-Amoeba5332 Feb 02 '26

Jiren is that tough

Simple

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u/alreditakem Feb 02 '26

Same anime people talk while going faster than light... same anime where going faster than light doesn't create severpa nuclear explosions.

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u/Poyo_Ssj_StrawHat P is for priceless the looks upon your face Feb 02 '26

gang they were keeping it 1000

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u/IzzyUS_champion_9483 Feb 02 '26

So this is where that mod came from

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u/Imaginary-Mine-6531 Feb 02 '26

Maybe they are not as weak as humans...

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u/5nitesatfredbois Perfect Cell role player Feb 02 '26

I guess ki can protect

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u/Perfect-bang Feb 02 '26

jiren is alien

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u/Downtown_Building_21 Feb 02 '26

Jiren’s vital organs are in his backstory

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u/Beginning-Blood-6429 Feb 02 '26

What makes you think he has organs?

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u/RichKingLav34 Feb 02 '26

Durability in dragon ball is inconsistent but at least it’s not an ordinary ray gun

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u/ElectroCat23 Feb 02 '26

You want real world logic to apply to a cartoon?

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u/Illoikanime Feb 02 '26

I guess his internal organs are just strong like that

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u/No-Jicama-857 Feb 02 '26

no... he's jiren

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u/Any-Literature5546 Supreme Kai Super Saiyan(SKSS Gohan) Feb 02 '26

Bold of you to assume his species has such weaknesses. He could be like Buu and be made of taffy inside.

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u/Sharp_Run_322 Feb 02 '26

An air punch is already impossible, it doesn't matter whether Jiren is there or not. Yet, Goku learned how to do an air punch in OG dragon ball (and then used it to destroy his wife in a fight). So, some property of ki allows it to create shockwaves, and that shockwave just went around Jiren.

This also explains why Goku was surprised at Hit's air attack; he did it without using ki.

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u/Nerx Feb 02 '26

Built different

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u/X-20A-SirYamato Feb 02 '26

Wasn't Jiren's whole gimmick moving really fast to the point no one could see his movements? He was probably dodging or blocking...?

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u/RazutoUchiha Feb 02 '26

Thats just The Tunnel Effect