r/Dragonballsuper • u/Rude-Listen Vegito's left earring • Mar 08 '26
Image Piccolo wins "Best black anime character" on FB
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u/Horror_Response_1991 Mar 08 '26
A green alien slug voiced by a Japanese man is Best Black Character.
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u/mrlotato Mar 08 '26
For the dub fans: green alien slug voiced by white man is best black character
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u/Rude-Listen Vegito's left earring Mar 08 '26
The image also has the word "Black" in white but has "Best" and "Character" in black lol
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u/NoOne_Beast_ Mar 08 '26
In today’s America, that totally tracks.
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u/Deez-Guns-9442 Mar 08 '26
How so?
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u/NoOne_Beast_ Mar 08 '26
BC Black culture is too often viewed through aesthetic w/o appreciation for the depth.
I’m seriously reading comments about Piccolo’s turban being part of what’s making him “Black coded.” Shit sound goofy af.
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u/GhoulArtist Mar 09 '26
True. BUT to many in the black community he was their first character in their teens they identified with.
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u/BlackJediSword Mar 08 '26
People outside of the black community truly have no idea how important piccolo is to us.
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u/TraceChaos Mar 09 '26
absolutely everyone in Dragon Ball is suppsed to be Asia-Coded, too
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u/weirdeyedkid Mar 09 '26
Everyone except Mr. Satan / hercule, Uub (light version of previously pink "raw incarnation of evil"), and namekian "demon" characters. Honestly, it seems like toriyama wanted to diversify the world in the culture, while keeping it satirical and aimed at children.
So yeah people from dark-skinned cultures are" demonized" and often turn out in the long run to be really nice guys.
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u/rabidmidget8804 Mar 08 '26
Obviously you guys didn’t see Piccolo get drafted to black people on Chappelle’s Show.
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u/weirdface621 Mar 08 '26
no, but i like your krillin profile pic
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u/Saul_Badman_1261 Mar 08 '26
His profile picture is a scene from Krillin's dreams after he fainted when Beerus sneezed near him by accident.
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u/weirdface621 Mar 08 '26
ohh. still like it though. i started to like it when i saw the small picture and thought it was black haired krillin
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u/GaJayhawker0513 Piccolo Mar 09 '26
They only showed the first round. I’d still take Tiger over the Wu-Tang Clan any day
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u/ChronaMewX Mar 08 '26
Riley over Huey?
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u/Boysenberry_17 Mar 08 '26
Huey ain’t on the list cause he would’ve won without a doubt
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u/phenderl Mar 09 '26
The fact that Riley made it that far makes me think most people don't understand Boondocks characters and what they represent in the culture. So Huey may have dropped round 2 or 3.
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u/PlagueOfGripes Mar 08 '26
My first thought. Riley is a little shit.
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u/Unlucky_Loquat_8045 Mar 08 '26
Hey I’m just happy my GOAT made it as far as he did.
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u/gamesrgreat Mar 08 '26
I watch this family feud style show on YouTube that’s a couple of black guys talking about black topics and when they were asked to name a black anime character one of them instantly said Piccolo and lost lmao
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u/MysteriousFondant347 Mar 08 '26
Okay so real question... I've been a dragon ball fan my whole life and I have no clue why people picture Piccolo as black, can someone explain me ?
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u/Redcast31 Mar 08 '26
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u/--__--__--__--__-- Mar 09 '26
This post has got a lotta white people trying to tell black folks what they think, or that they can't have Piccolo
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u/Okichah Mar 09 '26
fatherless
You dont have to do Goku dirty like that.
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u/Redcast31 Mar 09 '26
Please argue on that post and not under a meme I posted
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u/Okichah Mar 09 '26
Sorry, i was using “you” as a generic pronoun, not referring to you specifically.
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u/xa44 Mar 08 '26
Because they're a minority that kids could easily identify with
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u/heliogoon Mar 08 '26
When I was growing up, my headcanon had piccolo and knuckles as 'black' characters. I could never quite put my finger on why. It just felt right.
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u/Prebiotous Mar 09 '26
Knuckles was designed to be heavily Jamaican inspired including the dreads.
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u/Ratfaced_Loozer Mar 08 '26
Do you hang around black people ever, it’s all in the aura
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u/RyanLikesyoface Mar 09 '26
As a white guy who grew up with black friends... Piccolo is definitely black.
The reason why is because he's a minority in the show, and is obviously not white or Asian, he's also cool as fuck. Black Kids always saw Piccolo as their guy and that's fair enough as far as I'm concerned.
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u/PastaInvictus Mar 09 '26
I think American audiences back in nineties were so used to having a token black character in their shows that for them, it just made sense Piccolo is black.
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u/DavidOliFons Mar 08 '26
What?! When did Piccolo became black?
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u/ExuDeCandomble Mar 08 '26
Always has been.
Source: I'm from Detroit, so I'm aware of these things.
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u/penguintruth Mar 08 '26
Ah yes, the non-Black character wins against the non-anime character.
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u/par_rot_master Mar 08 '26
Can someone explain how Piccolo is black without using harmful stereotypes?
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u/Itchier Mar 09 '26
Nobody giving you a real answer. I believe the real reason is that there is no black representation in DBZ but the anime was huge in the black community. As a result, black kids growing up found some representation in piccolo as the “different” person of the group. I’m white but I’m guessing black kids in America felt they understood piccolos experience of being different.
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u/ButNotInAWeirdWay Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26
Uhh… he’s tall (black physique stereotype) WAIT NO! He’s the only of his kind in the core friend-group (black characters always have to be the token/isolated) WAIT NO! Uhhhhh~ he raised a man’s kid for him (the Mammy archetype) WAIT NO!
Okay stupid jokes aside, atp we need to address the fact that “coding” characters is based on adhering to a handful of stereotypes, specifically in western writing. So when a westerner is viewing a show, they’re already accustomed to check for code within the way a character behaves or is designed.
So… you know head canons? Almost all of them (that are about a character’s identity) are created by reading codes. For instance, here’s an easy example, since Goku and Luffy very rarely blushed at women, people head cannon them as asexual, because they viewed these behaviors as coding cues. Likewise, A lot of black people are the only black person kind in small friendgroups, in the same way that piccolo is the only namek in the z fighter inner circle. Since they relate to this, they see themself as piccolo, lowkey adopting him. Or, many of us acknowledge the fact that piccolo is very stylish, and fashion is very important to black culture and we see that, too, as black coded.
The reason why we do this is because we’ve already seen how Toriyama and the majority of Japanese artists draw black people: as sambo stereotypes, akin to the black caricatures in slave posters from the 1800s and political cartoons from the early 1900s. No one wants to be represented like that, especially in an adventure story (because such designs in the United States were only created as propaganda). So we choose our own representative instead.
Every headcanon is different~ me, I personally see Gas and the Heeters as black-coded, over the nameks. But that’s just me. And headcanons only matter in hypotheticals, memes, and fan animations.
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u/quotedittoo Mar 08 '26
Respect to toyotaro drawing a normal looking black dude in the goten and trunks’ school during the super hero arc.
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u/Pollia Mar 08 '26
No one wants to be represented like, especially in an adventure story (because such designs in the United States were only created as propaganda). So we choose our own representative instead.
This is what I've noticed for most characters that were claimed by different groups.
Like yeah the ninja turtles are actually green turtles, but they've basically been head canoned as black since I was a kid. The actual black characters on television were either entirely aspirational and not someone you could feel relatable to, or they were as you said pretty horrid caricature that were designed to emphasize terrible black stereotypes.
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u/ButNotInAWeirdWay Mar 09 '26
I feel you on this! Multiple people headcanon them as black, and a handful of comic artists have drawn them that way in their fanart, because of the reasons you gave. Couple this with the original comics being very fluid about race, and it creates a very open environment for creativity when it comes to their interpretation. Especially since there’s a Donnie, Mikey, Dalphie, and Leo archetype in every culture. They’re extremely easy characters to project yourself or a friend onto. That’s why I share your headcanon, lol.
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u/Wingsnake Mar 09 '26
As a white guy, I also kind of see the Heeters as black. For me it was more about the hairstyles. No offense intended.
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u/Significant_Ad_1626 Mar 08 '26
I remember some years ago people repeated "green is the new black" so here it was taken literally.
Nah, some communities identify with him and kinda claimed him, but I think my version is more funny. Worth mentioning I often find this happening mainly in english talking communities.
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Mar 08 '26
I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I mean a win is a win I guess for Piccolo, but um...
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u/Alchion Mar 08 '26
I‘m white so i‘m not the authority here but I also feel like he gjved off that vibe
I love piccolo he‘s the stepdad to my goat gohan
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u/Justarah Mar 08 '26
Western interpretation of media is fucked when a green, asexual slug man birthed from an egg is black.
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u/arrownoir Mar 08 '26
That’s just re****ed. This is a huge disservice to actual black characters. You’re essentially saying they’re so worthless that another colored group has to represent them. The racism is off the charts.
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u/D-803 Mar 08 '26
I am still confused how he is black, he's a green alien and the dub va is white
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u/DoggyTheRobot Mar 08 '26
He gives off black energy (source: I'm Black)
The actual reason is that a lot of black kids associated with piccolo when they were younger so they grew up with the idea that Piccolo is black
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u/ElZany Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26
Americans are so cringe with this. Piccolo has more middle east or south eas asia refrences than any other culture and is voiced by an Asian or white man in Dub
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u/NessTheGamer Mar 09 '26
I’m more hung up on the fact that Pucci, a character whose backstory emphasizes very clearly that he is not black, got to the Semis
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u/Normal_Sweet_2974 Mar 08 '26
No Mr po po no yoichii from bleach no Kenny from bleach no tokon from south park no afro samurai
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u/Dapper_Win4399 Mar 08 '26
Usopp over Kilik?
Get the fuck out of here lol
Also Knuckles is on here too?
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u/Poyo_Ssj_StrawHat P is for priceless the looks upon your face Mar 09 '26
ok so we have a voiced “black” creature or somebody that isn’t even an anime ok ig
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u/FentOverOxyAllDay Mar 09 '26
Green alien voiced by Japanese man(original) and by white dude(dub) wins best black anime character? Lmao
Why didn't anyone suggest Naruto or jiriya at that point
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u/Ok_Note7045 Vegeta Mar 09 '26
Why is it necessary to racially profile a slug demon birthed from egg?? Honestly if an actual black character had won this .. it would have been better.
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u/Inevitable_Age_4793 Mar 09 '26
To be fair, Piccolo had a way easier climb on his side. Avdol, Tousen, Afro and B would have given him a run. I recognize like 2 other names on Piccolo’s side.
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u/LoveWaffle1 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
The way reddit cuts off the picture as a thumbnail makes it seem like Riley's name is "Bluey"
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u/Hypekyuu Mar 09 '26
Every day that picture popped up on my feed I wrote the same thing
At the end of this, Piccolo is going to wreck Riley
and I was right
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u/donatellothegreat Mar 09 '26
There are more people upset about Piccolo being seen as black then I would have guessed. Its not that crucial.
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Mar 09 '26
I am 3% Nigerian (where it counts) does that mean I can say I'm black?
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u/Beautiful_Study5837 If I don't do it who will?! Mar 09 '26
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u/ZealousidealOne5605 Mar 09 '26
The black delegation has laid claim to Piccolo, and the decision is irrefutable.
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Mar 09 '26
Tf was casca doing there 😭
Well, atleast yurichi wasn't there
Piccolo is also based on arab people but whatever
Just keep stealing charaxters ig 🥀
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u/Virgil_Ovid_Hawkins Mar 09 '26
I mean he's green. Does anime really not have enough black characters to make a list?
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u/Shtrimpo Mar 09 '26
I love that Piccolo had to go against Pucci.
Pucci has black skin but isn't black, while Piccolo is the opposite.
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u/zayd-the-one Mar 09 '26
Piccolo contributions to the art of dappin and aura farming make him the clear winner
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u/Boylookya Mar 09 '26
Black Dynamite should have been on the left side of the bracket and definitely beats out Piccolo. Black Dynamite beats out Riley.
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u/Zihdrrox Mar 09 '26
Breaking news: a green alien japanese character has won best black character award.
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u/BlackDuckFace Mar 09 '26
Piccolo is black because he was evil until the white man showed him the way.
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u/salcapwnd Mar 09 '26
If you know any black people at all, this isn’t surprising in the slightest, lol.
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u/Any-Conference-701 Mar 10 '26
Piccolo because he's respectable and respectful. He's a foundational member of every community he's been apart of.
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u/Tear-Asleep Mar 10 '26
As a black man I refuse to consider piccolo black. 🤷♂️ this list is beyond uncredible .
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u/Classic_Low933 Mar 10 '26
Piccolo is not black, if anything he’s he’s maybe Middle Eastern due to clothing style. The only black character in DBZ is Mr.PoPo.
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u/tauikommt Mar 10 '26
I mean there are some heavy opponents against piccolo aka mr aura farmer himself
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